Organic soil recipes that do not need to be cooked?

hillbill

hillbill

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Most everything wild is growing in composted organic matter in soil and nothing else. I have seen cannabis that did quite well without fertilizer as they were undiscovered volunteers. That is with haphazard composting so with thoughtful and optimized composting the results should be fine.
 
greg nr

greg nr

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fwiw, build-a-soil will sell you a complete kit of minerals and nutrients that you add to your own mix of peat, compost, and aeration. They say to let it sit for 2 weeks, but it's not really cooking time.

It's supposed to be a very good no till blend.
 
kratos015

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Rasta Roy said:
15% peat moss, pine bark, or coco coir
35% aeration (I prefer Perlite or rice hulls but course Sand, and pumice are other options
50% composted organic matter (this could be compost, composted cow or horse manure, worm castings, leaf mold). I prefer a combination of as many different kinds of compost I can but whatever is available to you and the best quality is what you should lean on.

Neem Seed Meal or Neem Cake 1/2 cup per cubic foot
Crab shell meal or shrimp shell meal 1/2 cup per cubic foot
Gypsum 1/2 cup per cubic foot
Langbeinite 1/4 cup per cubic foot
Kelp meal 1/2 cup per cubic foot
Alfalfa meal 1/4 cup per cubic foot
Oyster shell flour 1/4 cup per cubic foot
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Great mix, very similar to mine and I highly recommend it. All sorts of good stuff in here and it doesn't need to cook/get hot on you.


greg nr said:
fwiw, build-a-soil will sell you a complete kit of minerals and nutrients that you add to your own mix of peat, compost, and aeration. They say to let it sit for 2 weeks, but it's not really cooking time.

It's supposed to be a very good no till blend.
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Great mix, I use the same recipe that's listed on that site but I bought all of the ingredients on amazon with the exception of the peat moss. BAS products are quite overpriced and the shipping costs are outrageous. The recipe they have on there is solid though, and like greg said, you mainly let it sit for a few weeks to give the microbiology a head start. Highly recommend the BAS recipe, or the one Rasta Roy posted.
 
Thai_Lights

Thai_Lights

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kratos015 said:
Great mix, very similar to mine and I highly recommend it. All sorts of good stuff in here and it doesn't need to cook/get hot on you.




Great mix, I use the same recipe that's listed on that site but I bought all of the ingredients on amazon with the exception of the peat moss. BAS products are quite overpriced and the shipping costs are outrageous. The recipe they have on there is solid though, and like greg said, you mainly let it sit for a few weeks to give the microbiology a head start. Highly recommend the BAS recipe, or the one Rasta Roy posted.
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I was going to order some goodies from build a soil but I imagine shipping to Canada will be long and expensive and painful
 
kratos015

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Thai_Lights said:
I was going to order some goodies from build a soil but I imagine shipping to Canada will be long and expensive and painful
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Definitely, they were wanting over $150 for shipping and I'm only one state over from them. No thank you!

Check Amazon, they have pretty much everything you need and most of it qualifies for Prime two day shipping. All the amendments and minerals you could ever need are on Amazon, you can even get decent quality EWC and perlite as well. Only thing you'll have a hard time sourcing online for a reasonable price is going to be the Peat Moss, but every Lowes/Home Depot has them for like $13 a bale. I live over 100 miles away from one so that's my issue haha.
 
Thai_Lights

Thai_Lights

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kratos015 said:
Definitely, they were wanting over $150 for shipping and I'm only one state over from them. No thank you!

Check Amazon, they have pretty much everything you need and most of it qualifies for Prime two day shipping. All the amendments and minerals you could ever need are on Amazon, you can even get decent quality EWC and perlite as well. Only thing you'll have a hard time sourcing online for a reasonable price is going to be the Peat Moss, but every Lowes/Home Depot has them for like $13 a bale. I live over 100 miles away from one so that's my issue haha.
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We have good peat here in Canada.
 
Rasta Roy

Rasta Roy

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Thai_Lights said:
We have good peat here in Canada.
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You supply it to the world! We produce a lot in Michigan too (the foreign hand that pats your bottom if you will lol), but you guys got miles and miles of bogs. It's a precious barrier against global warming though, England is phasing it out of their potting soil industry and is banning it around 2030 I think is their plan. Interested to see if the rest of the world will follow!
 
hillbill

hillbill

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Great Britain and Ireland burn peat to heat their homes and I just don't see a threat to peat bogs of the Canadian Shield. The sheer vastness of it, a much different situation than small islands that have burned through it for generations.
 
Rasta Roy

Rasta Roy

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hillbill said:
Great Britain and Ireland burn peat to heat their homes and I just don't see a threat to peat bogs of the Canadian Shield. The sheer vastness of it, a much different situation than small islands that have burned through it for generations.
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That they burn it for heat is why it's being phased out of the potting soil industry in those places! It'll get used up growing porch tomatoes instead of keeping people warm!
 
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