Plants dieing under blackstar240 (AGAIN!) help

PSUAGRO. said:

What type of soil are you using????........can you measure the soil ph for me........would help......and at this point I would CUT back your nutes and just use plain aerated water/see if it helps........i always say the same thing, fresh soil has allot of nutrients already in it.....its ALWAYS better to underfeed than overfeed........good luck grower

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I got a ph soil tester and the ph is bang on 5.8 as i am using coco and it needs to be 5.8
i am scared if i cut back the nutes it could start the same problem as before when i wasent using enough cal-mag? coco has got no nutes in it other than what i add

2 people answered you , you discarded both people. YOUR plants are dying because you have an idiot for a gardner...

kang420 said:

I got a ph soil tester and the ph is bang on 5.8 as i am using coco and it needs to be 5.8
i am scared if i cut back the nutes it could start the same problem as before when i wasent using enough cal-mag? coco has got no nutes in it other than what i add

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Ah straight cocco......ok your at 5.8/ are you using cocco based nutes for that ph?? I would still run straight aerated water/maybe a salt buildup.....and let the cocco dry out COMPLETELY.......good luck

tokingtiger said:

2 people answered you , you discarded both people. YOUR plants are dying because you have an idiot for a gardner...

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now now.......well that's not being very helpful is it?

did you calibrate your top of the line ph meter? I hear sometimes they are not calibrate some people lost big crops using those gadget. Try supersoil someday, I have never used a ph meter or ph strip since using supersoil, all I use is tap water that I let sit 24+hours before using... oh also, from what I remember of using commercial nutrients, is if you don't know whether you overfed or not, just go with water, less is more.

I had the exact same issue with my Blackstar. I started to add Iron and the problem went away quickly. Start small and see how it reacts, and add accordingly. Almost 100% positive this is what you are experiencing

tokingtiger said:

2 people answered you , you discarded both people. YOUR plants are dying because you have an idiot for a gardner...

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Call me crazy but after taking the advise of people for the last 4 months trying to get led growing right, i am not about the believe someone who just popped in saying flush when he has only 17 posts and most of them youtube videos, maybe you are more trusting but the last people i trusted without seeking professional help my plants died. so yeah i am not about to believe anyone, you need to read my first post again bellow. and the other person i disregarded was you for making comments about things that had nothing to do with me because you dident even bother to read the posts, so why would i believe you when you dident even know what you were commenting on you TWAT.

"Oh yeah many people have told me many things and none have worked, so unless you are growing with led and know what the problem is please dont bother to leave your two cents "

ill drop the nutes back, my ec is 1.1 thats hardly too high? and yes i am using canna A&B and cal-mag

Endur0xX yes it is calibrated fine both my ph meter testing the water is 5.8 and the soil tester is showing the same in soil maybe just closer to 6
i want to keep using coco until i get it right even tho ten million people have told me to switch to this supersoil or another

Straight cocco is fine(your cocco ferts are fine as well)......seen many good growers here be very successful with it under leds.......from what i've learned using it for a month (mines a cocco mix) is to allow a complete dryout with cocco between watering.....that saved me....my 2cents........good luck grower

PSUAGRO. said:

Straight cocco is fine(your cocco ferts are fine as well)......seen many good growers here be very successful with it under leds.......from what i've learned using it for a month (mines a cocco mix) is to allow a complete dryout with cocco between watering.....that saved me....my 2cents........good luck grower

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Your two cents is very welcomed mate, my coco is a mix also 80% coco 20% perlite i dident think that would make any difference, i will let them dry well out before any watering, the big plant with the problems again was well dry before i watered it again so i dont think that is the problem, when i am using canna A&B the chart says i should use 2-3ml/per liter but i add cal mag first at 1ml/per liter and that raises the EC alot and i cant add much A&B without haveing an EC over 2.0 so i am going light on the A&B at about 1ml/per liter with the cal mag to get an EC of about 1.6

kang420 said:

Your two cents is very welcomed mate, my coco is a mix also 80% coco 20% perlite i dident think that would make any difference, i will let them dry well out before any watering, the big plant with the problems again was well dry before i watered it again so i dont think that is the problem, when i am using canna A&B the chart says i should use 2-3ml/per liter but i add cal mag first at 1ml/per liter and that raises the EC alot and i cant add much A&B without haveing an EC over 2.0 so i am going light on the A&B at about 1ml/per liter with the cal mag to get an EC of about 1.6

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Hmmm....alright so you are letting the medium get bone dry between waterings.....yeah cutting your nutes in half will definitely tell you if you have a def/lockout if it continues to spread.....I personally would try straight aerated water for the next cycle and watch the girls reaction to it......oh and if you could put up some pics of the girls today it will help us figure this out..........are you foliar feeding them also???

Heres another pic or two i just took, i dont foliar feed anymore as its in flower, when you say aerated water what do you mean just tap water thats been sitting for a day or two? add ph down to it to 5.8 also cause my water ph is 7.0

Heres another pic or two i just took, i dont foliar feed anymore as its in flower, when you say aerated water what do you mean just tap water thats been sitting for a day or two? add ph down to it to 5.8 also cause my water ph is 7.0,

also its the middle fan leaves that are the problem the bottom and top leaves of the plant are fine

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From the pics ill say its definitely a deficiency caused by a lockout/ your sure the ph tester is good??........I would NOT ph down your water for the next cycle, it's a hunch but I think your ph may be to acidic......aerated water means buying a cheap aquarium pump($5) and an airstone and dropping it into your watering can....it removes chlorine and constantly adds O2 to the water, also great for mixing your nutes/teas in it too....

Edit: and I would drastically cut your nutes as your also showing signs of overfertilization........good luck

PSUAGRO. said:

From the pics ill say its definitely a deficiency caused by a lockout/ your sure the ph tester is good??........I would NOT ph down your water for the next cycle, it's a hunch but I think your ph may be to acidic......aerated water means buying a cheap aquarium pump($5) and an airstone and dropping it into your watering can....it removes chlorine and constantly adds O2 to the water, also great for mixing your nutes/teas in it too....

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My ph meter is a really good one and i have calibration fluid so i am 100% my water is 7.0 ph and i bring it down to 5.8 with about 4 drops of hydro ph down, it wont be any harm having the ph at 7 for a watering you think, never heard about needing a water pump and airstone before lol how long do you pump the air into the water? 10 mins or a few hours?

Is this the type of pump and airstone you mean? oh wait no pump with that one

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This one probly?

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I would give it a try at 7ph..........your running good nutes and cal mag so it wont hurt to try it to see if their is an improvement, IMO you need to raise the ph a tad to get into a better nutrient uptake level ( i know cocco should be at 5.8 at it's LOWEST).....aerated water can run constantly( go to your local walmart/petco/etc..should be less than ten dollars)....ebay listing is missing the pump and they run like at 3watts so it costs cents a month to run........the aerated water will also flush any salt build up which happens with overfert & cocco..........good luck

Thanks man i just went ahead and gave them plain water at 7ph with no nutes so i will have a better idea tomorrow how they handle it, i am in ireland here so no walmarts around lol theres local pet shops but they are worse for prices than the internet

kang420 said:

Thanks man i just went ahead and gave them plain water at 7ph with no nutes so i will have a better idea tomorrow how they handle it, i am in ireland here so no walmarts around lol theres local pet shops but they are worse for prices than the internet

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It should help..........either way it's just plain water, it won't kill em lol..........be safe grower

Hey play with yr ppm meter on the run off, that way you'll know better if u got salt built up and u can master yr feeding nutes level.... at least you'll know you have to look else where for yr issues. I run coco perlite and picking up my ppm pen is def helping me understanding it all better

yeah your second ebay link is the one you want........pump and airstone.......your plants will love that aerated water.............

Heres a pic today after just plain water last night, its gonna be 3 days before i get to a pet store to get a water pump

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if you know of other growers where you live, ask them if the city water is good to use ... they might be using something at the water treatment that your plants dont like