Question about nodes +rep for any help!

The nature of the plant dictates how large a bud will be. You can tie those stems together but all your doing is preventing those buds from developing.

Shorter internodes are the only way to make larger colas. You can see this when you take a cola about 4 weeks into flower and you crop the top over just below the bud. All the stems that make up that main cola will turn up to the light but they wont grow any fan leaves. It basically spreads the cola open but thats it. In your case it seems like your trying to make a cola without a lot of fans to trim but your actually just inhibiting bud formation. Not only are you choking off the main cola but your also choking the side branches.. The result is going to be an extremely airy bud..

You could fix that the easy way by getting more of the proper lighting. But I do hope you have some luck, I know lights are not cheap to buy or operate.

If you dont care about side branching at all.. Then simplay start planting 4 plants per square foot. You will not get any side branching and you only have one main cola.

You just need to keep up with pruning on the bottoms. If this is done correctly, from clone, every cola wil be almost exactly the same. Weight will be within 1/2 gram of each other and very little fan leaf.

sir rance alot said:

If you dont care about side branching at all.. Then simplay start planting 4 plants per square foot. You will not get any side branching and you only have one main cola.

You just need to keep up with pruning on the bottoms. If this is done correctly, from clone, every cola wil be almost exactly the same. Weight will be within 1/2 gram of each other and very little fan leaf.

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this is the most common way of donkey dicking your plants, but by doing so you end up with nothing on the lower part of the
plant. by tying the lower part together your filling in the empty viod. I dont believe it will cause air buds or less!! I dont think
you will get more. I would like to see some more pics though

hellraizer30 said:

geting a higher yield to me wouldnt be my reason for doing this, the reason I like it would be that one plant takes up
less real estate and that means more plants! and thats were your going to get more yield.

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Very true, I'm doing it to hopefully make each nug more dense and larger while eliminating popcorn nugs. Definitely allows for more space though! You could definitely use this technique to condense your plants.

sir rance alot said:

The nature of the plant dictates how large a bud will be. You can tie those stems together but all your doing is preventing those buds from developing.

Shorter internodes are the only way to make larger colas. You can see this when you take a cola about 4 weeks into flower and you crop the top over just below the bud. All the stems that make up that main cola will turn up to the light but they wont grow any fan leaves. It basically spreads the cola open but thats it. In your case it seems like your trying to make a cola without a lot of fans to trim but your actually just inhibiting bud formation. Not only are you choking off the main cola but your also choking the side branches.. The result is going to be an extremely airy bud..

You could fix that the easy way by getting more of the proper lighting. But I do hope you have some luck, I know lights are not cheap to buy or operate.

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Thanks for the input! I just finished a grow with this strain and as far as bud formation goes its top notch. I did a SOG and the main colas were between 10-16 grams dry. I'm not sure why this would restrict the plants bud formation though, most of the nugs tied closer to the main stem are already part of the main cola, I just ensured they would connect and fully integrate into the main bud site. Essentially I'm taking the preexisting nodes that stretched a bit to far out from the cola and putting them back in place, I'm not taking two individual main colas and combining them. As far as lighting goes I'm doing alright, I'm running both a 600w HPS and a 600w sunpulse 3000k MH over four plants with an additional 500w of supplemental CFL side lighting. I feel 1700w for 4 plants is almost overkill as is. Also the plant is much more aerated after the tying allowing the light to penetrate much deeper into the bud sites promoting solid growth. I haven't tried or seen this technique used so I'm just going off my past experience (6 grows, not a lot but enough to have a grasp on things lol). Have you tried this method or seen it done? Thanks for the comment!

sir rance alot said:

If you dont care about side branching at all.. Then simplay start planting 4 plants per square foot. You will not get any side branching and you only have one main cola.

You just need to keep up with pruning on the bottoms. If this is done correctly, from clone, every cola wil be almost exactly the same. Weight will be within 1/2 gram of each other and very little fan leaf.

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I just finished a SOG with this strain actually! Turned out incredible, huge dense nugs coated in resin. Legally I can only have 6 so growing them big is my only real option for a decent harvest. I also trim off everything that isn't part of the main colas, I have about 10 colas per plant and no secondary branching.

Sorry about the picture quality, I no longer have my good camera so I'm using my phone. You can still see the bud sites decent enough. They're really taking off now, definitely starting to fill in! Let me know your thoughts..

hellraizer30 said:

this is the most common way of donkey dicking your plants, but by doing so you end up with nothing on the lower part of the
plant. by tying the lower part together your filling in the empty viod. I dont believe it will cause air buds or less!! I dont think
you will get more. I would like to see some more pics though

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Exactly, I'm taking the part of the cola that grew out too far and filling it back in. I definitely doubt I'll get airy buds though I'm running 1200w of HID lighting 6-8 inches from the cola tops not to mention the side lighting from the cfls. Posted a few pics for you, theyre taken with my phone but you can get an idea of the bud site formation.

they look good, the one im going to test is going to have all the branches pulled together, not tight but im going to do it from a baby to finish.

FuZZyBUDz said:

not sure, not a bad experiment tho. i LLOOOVE the way u think my dood. +rep for that.

I once twisted a plant in a full circle with LSTing it wen i first started growing. it werked out well.

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Im in the process of doing the circle LST with mine this is my 1st grow with HID lights. grew floro 1 time was very unhappy with the yield. i will post some pics when the circle is all the way around.