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SSHZ

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I hadnothing but bad experiences from Reefermans seeds also........ Out of 25 seeds plants, only 11 sprouted and out of those 11, only 4 were females. I'm glad to see him out of business.
 
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This is reeferman aka Lpman so why don't you tell me about your problem with Reeferman seeds first of all I offer a satisfaction guarantee so if you had a problem with genetics we would fix it , as far as barney's goes how would you feel if i ratted you out the cops and than won 4 cups with genetics I stole from your room 6 hours before I called em .

I have a feeling that you friend work for another seed company maybe barneys farm .

I make real new breeding strains and improved versions of elite cuts and guarantee our work ! We have done population selection work with hundreds of thousands of plants and we are the only genetic company who's strains are being used in legal medical research on cannabis our products will be in tinctures for sale in canadian and Us pharmacy's in the next couple years .

We are not just breeders we have been embraced in legal research as leaders in cannabis genetics .

The legal situation with Canada's current govt has forced us to relocate our company to the Uk we will Launch a new site with new EU partners this fall I only breed I do not have anything to do with point of sale or distribution .
We hold legal cultivation exemptions in canada but do not produce or sell seeds in north america .
I hope this helps to bring some light to this rather 1 sided attack on my company and my person .

~reef~
 
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This is reeferman aka Lpman so why don't you tell me about your problem with Reeferman seeds...
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Personally I love a number of your strains and used to be a somewhat good customer but when I began to have a problem was when one day I went to the Reeferman site and all the prices had vastly increased.

I am talking about a doubling or more in price in the blink of an eye. If I remember right that happened shortly after Love Potion #1 won the Sativa Cup in, when was that, 2004 if I remember correctly, right?

It just seemed as if suddenly you got a big head and a big ego and you priced your beans to match it.

Possibly I am incorrect and while what I said may seem offensive it actually was not intended to be that way. It was just a simple way to state a perceived observation and two events that seemed to coincide.

Again though I tell people very often that your strains are very high quality and that I have grown a number of them in the past but I just fail to seem them as being good values for the dollar now considering that the exact same strains were priced so much lower before the events mentioned above occurred.

Possibly it was a normal business decision that needed to be made but there was not a slow gradual increase like would normally be seem as business expenses increase and as they increase prices increase at roughly the same rate.

Instead prices doubled and more for existing strains as fast as a website could be updated and new ones started out being even higher.

Your product is, or at least always was when I was purchasing your different products, top rate, your service was always top rate when I was purchasing from Reeferman Seeds when you were involved in sales and distribution, or at least your product was sold from a site that did have your name on it, and instead of just breeding so I do not now or ever have had any problem with your product or your past service.

It is only that at one time your strains were, in my opinion, by far the very best value for a person’s dollar that they could find and then one day it appeared that a decision was made that the point had been reached where the prices could be increased to the higher levels like other breeders/seedbanks priced their gear.

What once had been a tremendous value was still good gear but no longer a standout value and that is when I began to look around more and try different breeders products and then once again found very good values for my dollar.

So to any and all who attempt to claim that Reeferman’s strains are not up to par or not high quality or that Reeferman is not a top breeder I can and will tell you that you are absolutely wrong. He is up there among the best, its just that since his prices began to reflect that I myself no longer saw there being that true value for my money that once existed.

Like anyone else I want more than what I pay for and while that once was the case that no longer remained the case but that does not equate to a lessening of quality, only a lessening of value.
 
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The price increase has nothing to do with winning cups at all it had to do with the legal situation in canada when we first started the site we were able to have letters shipped directly to us process those orders and send them from home , we able to breed seeds and operate with little concern after the arrest of Emery and than RC who I was tightly tied to through sales and advertising , I was forced to move the company to Netherlands pay rents , employees , higher costs on everything .
I had no choice but to have that reflected in the price of seeds our prices were about the same as Dutch passion , I tried to move things back to canada 6 weeks after I arrived home I got busted with plants in a greenhouse .
Happily the law men never had there papers in order and the crown dropped its case .

Since than we have had federal permits issued in canada , I do not breed seeds in canada or sell seeds from canada , our genetics are being used in medical research in 2 countries as we speak .
This fall my partners in Europe will launch reeferman seeds UK web site and store ! we are also starting the collective up again with project with OGraskal , motarebel , moscanegra and maybe 1 more breeder !
Reef
 
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Website and a couple recommended strains? ~~ something potent, tripy, euphoric ... or whatever you have running that you like.

thanks

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bongsmilie
 
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lovepotionman said:
The price increase has nothing to do with winning cups at all
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That being the case it was then strictly coincidental that the two events coincided as they did.



it had to do with the legal situation in canada when we first started the site we were able to have letters shipped directly to us process those orders and send them from home , we able to breed seeds and operate with little concern after the arrest of Emery and than RC who I was tightly tied to through sales and advertising ,
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It was a bad time. Not that I ever had any love for Marc Emery but I did very much like RC’s Heaven’s Stairway and also his online auction, cBay, where I found some utterly fantastic deals. Some came from known but not big name breeders and some came from total unknown hobby/basement breeders.

One hobby/basement breeder who called himself Sweetleaf created some very high quality crosses. I am a major sativa lover myself but a few of Sweatleaf’s croses that were rather indica dominant were very good and were tremendous values.

One I purchased was a G-13 X White Russian that would knock your socks off and it cost a whopping $10.00 on cBay. I miss deals like that and I miss Dman’s line too that I used to purchase through Heaven’s Stairway.

I knew that you were tied at least somewhat closely with RC. I was a member of the old Cannabis World and if my memory serves me correctly we exchanged a few messages in the past there, that is unless it was just someone claiming to be you.

Those were glory days.


I was forced to move the company to Netherlands pay rents , employees , higher costs on everything .
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That is all understandable. I knew of the move and expected there to be some change in pricing when it happened, just not as much as I saw and as fast as it happened and also not so much in an across the board sort of manner, but then I was not the one looking at the businesses books and signing the checks either.


I had no choice but to have that reflected in the price of seeds our prices were about the same as Dutch passion ,
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Again I expected some change but just not how it happened and to the degree it happened or with the swiftness that it happened but then I had not just relocated to a different country and attempt to reestablish an existing business in a totally new location either.


I tried to move things back to canada 6 weeks after I arrived home I got busted with plants in a greenhouse .

Happily the law men never had there papers in order and the crown dropped its case .
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Now that is something that managed to slip under my radar, I had not heard about that happening. At least in your case there was a just and happy, or at least mostly happy ending.

Since than we have had federal permits issued in canada , I do not breed seeds in canada or sell seeds from canada , our genetics are being used in medical research in 2 countries as we speak .
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That sounds both good, from a business point of view, and also noble in that you are helping the advancement of modern medicine by fine tuning ancient plants. I applaud you.


This fall my partners in Europe will launch reeferman seeds UK web site and store ! we are also starting the collective up again with project with OGraskal , motarebel , moscanegra and maybe 1 more breeder !
Reef
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That sounds interesting and exciting. I wish you and your partners the very best of luck in your upcoming endeavor.
 
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SSHZ

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I love how Reef pops in once a year or so...... gives excuses, promises that things are about to be straightened out, and then disappears again. He a flat out liar, his beans suck (now) and I hope most of you have learned your lesson that he's a piece of shit. He continues to live in the past and obviously so do others.
 
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SSHZ said:
I love how Reef pops in once a year or so...... gives excuses, promises that things are about to be straightened out, and then disappears again. He a flat out liar, his beans suck (now) and I hope most of you have learned your lesson that he's a piece of shit. He continues to live in the past and obviously so do others.
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everything he touch turns to coal, licences, his beans, his nutrient line and anyone that gets involved with this guy gets burned but him.
 
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everything this guys does turns to coal, his beans, his nutrient line just flopped and every legal licence he touchs gets fucked in one way or another.I havent meet one person that has anything good to say about him he is just bad mojo all around. back in the day he may have been ok but know he is just a thief and liar in a big green cape
 
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SSHZ

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He still has his followers but if you check closely, most are growing his "older" genetics- either from old seeds or clone mothers. I still have a bunch of his seeds but I refuse to grow them- a BIG waste of money! EXCEPT, I'm waiting for Karma Genetics to finish up his Harmony grow (which I also own) which I'll reconsider growing if it turns out well.
 
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lovepotionman said:
The price increase has nothing to do with winning cups at all it had to do with the legal situation in canada when we first started the site we were able to have letters shipped directly to us process those orders and send them from home , we able to breed seeds and operate with little concern after the arrest of Emery and than RC who I was tightly tied to through sales and advertising , I was forced to move the company to Netherlands pay rents , employees , higher costs on everything .
I had no choice but to have that reflected in the price of seeds our prices were about the same as Dutch passion , I tried to move things back to canada 6 weeks after I arrived home I got busted with plants in a greenhouse .
Happily the law men never had there papers in order and the crown dropped its case .

Since than we have had federal permits issued in canada , I do not breed seeds in canada or sell seeds from canada , our genetics are being used in medical research in 2 countries as we speak .
This fall my partners in Europe will launch reeferman seeds UK web site and store ! we are also starting the collective up again with project with OGraskal , motarebel , moscanegra and maybe 1 more breeder !
Reef
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Since now you dont have any problems with the law and are now situated why are the prices still so high?
 
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mailman316

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Listen to these haters eh???? The Fucking guy has great gear you don't see any other breeder bringing back old school strains as much as Reef does much respect to u Reef.
 
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