Removing all leaves 1 week before buds are done???

GreenThumbSucker

GreenThumbSucker

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smokiedog said:
i would think trimming would make your top buds smaller but all your other buds bigger, with an overall bigger yield. does anybody here have a degree in botany or agriculture or at least have a scientific answer. i just trimmed last night because it seemed as if only a small percentage of the leave were getting good coverage from the hps and everything else is in the shade of the top fan leaves.

if trimming is bad i wont do it.......
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Um, your top buds are where you get 90% of your weight. If lower popcorn buds are your first priority, by all means, go for it.

The 'pluck the shade leaves so the buds get more light' myth has been around forever. I remember my older brother ruining his crop this way back in the 80s. He removed the shaders about 1/2 way through the budding cycle and his buds never gained an iota of size from that day forward. I had warned him what would happen but he wouldnt listen. He learned the hard way. His finished buds were about 1/3 what he normally got.
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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GreenThumbSucker said:
Um, your top buds are where you get 90% of your weight. If lower popcorn buds are your first priority, by all means, go for it.

The 'pluck the shade leaves so the buds get more light' myth has been around forever. I remember my older brother ruining his crop this way back in the 80s. He removed the shaders about 1/2 way through the budding cycle and his buds never gained an iota of size from that day forward. I had warned him what would happen but he wouldnt listen. He learned the hard way. His finished buds were about 1/3 what he normally got.
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But the myth continues..... :lol:

Just leave (<---leave) the darn things alone...

out. :blsmoke:
 
Drgreenz

Drgreenz

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I agree with leave em but.... just to play devil's advocate lol, there is a greenhouse seed co video where they are getting ready to harvest a cannibis cup crop and they say to take all the leaves off one week before harvest. they say it forces the plant to use up any remaining nutes and sugars and gives the bud a "very smooth sexy smoke" in Arjon's words lol.
 
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SlikWiLL13

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Drgreenz said:
I agree with leave em but.... just to play devil's advocate lol, there is a greenhouse seed co video where they are getting ready to harvest a cannibis cup crop and they say to take all the leaves off one week before harvest. they say it forces the plant to use up any remaining nutes and sugars and gives the bud a "very smooth sexy smoke" in Arjon's words lol.
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ill bite...

if all the leaves are gone then where are the aforementioned sugars and nutes coming from?

as far as "smooth and sexy smoke"...i dont even flush my weed anymore. i used to be an avid flusher but argued with one guy so long that i gave it a try to shut him up. i was very humble when we smoked my unflushed but cured herb and it was amazingly smooth and delicious.

its all about the cure.

and whats with european men and thier frivolous use of the word "sexy"?
 
Drgreenz

Drgreenz

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SlikWiLL13 said:
ill bite...

if all the leaves are gone then where are the aforementioned sugars and nutes coming from?

as far as "smooth and sexy smoke"...i dont even flush my weed anymore. i used to be an avid flusher but argued with one guy so long that i gave it a try to shut him up. i was very humble when we smoked my unflushed but cured herb and it was amazingly smooth and delicious.

its all about the cure.

and whats with european men and thier frivolous use of the word "sexy"?
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no shit they do use "sexy" alot lol.
yea i wouldnt cut but i looked into why they might and the plants do store alot of starches throughout the entire plant for emergency use..... I can only theorize that maybe this would shock the plant into using any and all emergency energy stores??? i have a friend who cuts all the smaller fan leaves every other week until 3 weeks before harvest, he swears it makes the buds swell... idk either way i dont flush and dont cut mine until its time and have had good luck.
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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Yah, I have my suspicions that the flushing is another myth. Why would a plant need a flush? How would they do this in the wild? I think there are a lot of folks who try and make weed growing seem complicated...it is not. Like any product, it's the marketing which corrupts. Weed is EXTREMELY easy to grow. Unless you are running around nuting, trimming, flushing, which in the end breaks up the rhythm of the plant and that's where most of the trouble lies, as with any plant. For the most part, simply set it up correctly and STEP back.

out. :blsmoke:
 
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SlikWiLL13

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CrackerJax said:
Yah, I have my suspicions that the flushing is another myth. Why would a plant need a flush? How would they do this in the wild? I think there are a lot of folks who try and make weed growing seem complicated...it is not. Like any product, it's the marketing which corrupts. Weed is EXTREMELY easy to grow. Unless you are running around nuting, trimming, flushing, which in the end breaks up the rhythm of the plant and that's where most of the trouble lies, as with any plant. For the most part, simply set it up correctly and STEP back.

out. :blsmoke:
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every time someone buys a bottle of clearing/flushing solution the boys in marketing giggle.

drgreenz- give the no flush a try on one of your girls. make sure it gets a good cure and you wont be dissappointed.
 
CrackerJax

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yah Slik, it's all about marketing. I also didn't flush once just because i got busy and when it's time to cut them down...it's time to cut them down....so i did, and i couldn't tell any difference whatsoever. One less step to do. Keeping it simple...keeping it REAL.

out. :blsmoke:
 
Brick Top

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Drgreenz said:
there is a greenhouse seed co video where they are getting ready to harvest a cannibis cup crop and they say to take all the leaves off one week before harvest. they say it forces the plant to use up any remaining nutes and sugars and gives the bud a "very smooth sexy smoke" in Arjon's words lol.
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I have a fair amount of respect for Arjan but I would love to ask him how he came up with that because the large fan leaves are factories that take sunlight/light rays and nutrients and water and create the sugars and other chemicals pot plants need and that he supposedly said would be good for plants to use up in the final week.

Now maybe what he said was meant as in something of a flush or a way to enhance flushing because if you remove the large leaves there will be way fewer chemicals and sugars and nutrients in plants to flush. But if he meant it would produce better results, as in larger better more potent buds, Arjan or not he was wrong.

Based on the; "very smooth sexy smoke" part I can only believe it is strictly for taste and not for any other form of enhancement, as in production, and the topic of the tread is about enhanced production and not a; "smooth sexy smoke."
 
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mr.magic

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remove most of the leaves two days before harvest, placed the plant in in a dark, cool room. dont water for those two days (be sure to flush plant for one to two weeks befor harvest time). then cut off the buds and manicure, dry, and cure as you normally would.


this guy i know does this and his shit taste sooo good and smooooth. i dont know if there is any science to back this method up but from what ive smoked i think ill use this method for my upcomeing harvest.
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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You answered your own post. there's no way to know that did anything at all. For all we know he reduced the quality.

out. :blsmoke:
 
Drgreenz

Drgreenz

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SlikWiLL13 said:
every time someone buys a bottle of clearing/flushing solution the boys in marketing giggle.

drgreenz- give the no flush a try on one of your girls. make sure it gets a good cure and you wont be dissappointed.
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i mistyped at first, i edited it though i dont flush, but then again i only use organics that i make too.
 
bigtimebudman

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darkdestruction420 and brick top are right. I had a buddy who cut all the leaves of his plants thinking it would shift all the light to the buds, it fuckin KILLED 'EM!
 
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SlikWiLL13

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mr.magic said:
remove most of the leaves two days before harvest, placed the plant in in a dark, cool room. dont water for those two days (be sure to flush plant for one to two weeks befor harvest time). then cut off the buds and manicure, dry, and cure as you normally would.


this guy i know does this and his shit taste sooo good and smooooth. i dont know if there is any science to back this method up but from what ive smoked i think ill use this method for my upcomeing harvest.
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remove the leaves?!? put it in a dark room?!?

where do you kids get this garbage?:wall:
 
Brick Top

Brick Top

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SlikWiLL13 said:
remove the leaves?!? put it in a dark room?!?

where do you kids get this garbage?:wall:
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Actually the dark part is factual. I posted something a few pages or so back about a medical marijuana company, if I remember correctly it was the first Dutch firm to supply medical marijuana, and they did tests where plants were put into 72 hours of darkness before harvesting and others of the same strains/genetics were not and they had increases of as much as 30% in the levels of THC in the plants that were kept in darkness for 72 hours previous to harvesting.

Sunlight/light rays from grow lights break down THC so every day a percentage of THC is lost and it is recouped at night plus a little more so there is a gradual increase but not an large increase as long as light keeps hitting the plants. When put into darkness for some period of time before harvest the THC levels recoup and then continue to grow until the plant can no longer produce due to lack of light. In that time THC levels hit there highest due to no degradation of THC from light.

The cutting leaves part is an old wives tale, a myth, an urban legend.
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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I'm willing to try the dark bit. I'll put one in and the rest normal,see what happens. I think it may also cause stress which may account for the resin increase. At least It's not physically wounding the plant.
 
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SlikWiLL13

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ill try the dark thing too. if it works, ill issue a public apology.

but seriously, can we be done with the cutting of the leaves?
 
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