Right Wing nutjobs show their asses at another townhall (Again).

They can vote, they cannot be discriminated against in the workplace, etc etc. They have civil unions... it is an issue of making special exception with regards to something that does not apply to them. It is like me insisting on maternity leave. It is not sexist, it is non-applicable.

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Thing like family insurance and hospital visiting rights do not have to be enforced. Also Adoption rights, they can deny rights to gay couples, and a large amount of other issues all crop up with Gay rights.

Those are the issues in place. As I think Marriage is pretty much a joke, I could care less about what it is called, but to deny people the same rights that others have is a discrimination issue, and not special rights.

The "benefits" of marriage are justified because of the product of fruitful union... and again... I think they need to pull their noses out all together.

For the record, as marriage laws exist, I am for gay marriage on principal, but not because of gays. It is exclusionary of hermaphrodites to incorporate "man and woman" specific language. I am honestly surprised that nobody has used this argument. EQUAL protection. Hermaphrodites cannot marry anyone... and while it sounds laughable, it is a minority which is discriminated against by using sex specific language.

Marriage should go back to the church, and the REST of society should get civil unions granting authority for medical decisions etc.

my .02

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Agreed, I also love when people say that it needs to be protected for procreational reasons. Because it is fun to point out that anyone infertile should then not be allowed to marry, and that would include almost every woman over the age of 60. And a big portion of men with low sperm counts.

hanimmal said:

Thing like family insurance and hospital visiting rights do not have to be enforced. Also Adoption rights, they can deny rights to gay couples, and a large amount of other issues all crop up with Gay rights.

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You are gonna love this. They should IMO. I think that they should deny adoption to people who live a BDSM lifestyle as well. I don't believe that sexually deviant lifestyles are appropriate social environments to raise children in. Has nothing to do with "rights". Everyone does not have the right to adopt. People with a history of violence... who are granted all other rights defined in the constitution, should not be allowed to either. Has nothing to do with oppression. Has to do with the best interests of the child, and gay adoption is a blight. You should not have special rights because of your particular sexual deviance.

hanimmal said:

Those are the issues in place. As I think Marriage is pretty much a joke, I could care less about what it is called, but to deny people the same rights that others have is a discrimination issue, and not special rights.

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They have the same rights. The exact same rights. They want special rights.

You should have the right to butt fuck each other. You should not have special rights BECAUSE you butt fuck each other.

The "benefits" of marriage are justified because of the product of fruitful union... and again... I think they need to pull their noses out all together.

so only those who help to overpopulate the world should receive the benefits of marriage?

and again... I think they need to pull their noses out all together.

Fat crayon for the kid who eats marbles.

You are gonna love this. They should IMO. I think that they should deny adoption to people who live a BDSM lifestyle as well. I don't believe that sexually deviant lifestyles are appropriate social environments to raise children in. Has nothing to do with "rights". Everyone does not have the right to adopt. People with a history of violence... who are granted all other rights defined in the constitution, should not be allowed to either. Has nothing to do with oppression. Has to do with the best interests of the child, and gay adoption is a blight. You should not have special rights because of your particular sexual deviance.

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Yeah that I do disagree with completely. Just because they are gay does not mean that they are going to be bad parents. I agree that criminals should not be able to adopt. But to correlate strait people being different than gay people is wrong.

Just because I have sex with my old lady does not mean that I am going to do it in front of a child.

How can having a child forced to stay in a orphanage be better for that kid than being in a household where it will be loved and given every advantage in education that they would ever hope to have. To say that their sexual practices should proclude them from that is the same as saying that it makes them sub standard people.

And that is a direct example of a right that strait people have that gay people do not.

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I believe it is a reference to this.

First time I saw it... I peed myself a little.

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haha that's good shit.. also related


As far as gay rights and abortion, if you're really for "small gubbermant" then you wouldn't give a shit what these people do with their lives.

what... huh? said:

and again... I think they need to pull their noses out all together.

Fat crayon for the kid who eats marbles.

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i was asking a question as what you wrote made no sense to me. pull their noses out all together? if that is a saying where you're from good for you asshole but where i'm from i've never heard it and didn't understand. fuck you!

I believe he was talking about the government needs to pull their noses out of marriage.

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Hi, how are you?

thank you hannimal. seeing as how he didn't mention the government anywhere else it was confusing. i thought he was making a gay sexual reference or something.

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thank you hannimal. seeing as how he didn't mention the government anywhere else it was confusing. i thought he was making a gay sexual reference or something.

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what... huh? said:

As far as I am concerned, government has no business in marriage to begin with.

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The post two above the one you quoted.

what... huh? said:

It is really more a discussion of the Roman empire than the bible... but you go on and put those blinders on and forge ahead.



Can't see for the life of me what you would be afraid of.

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the internet can be scary. maybe i'll stop by if i can work up the courage. can you hold me?

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The post two above the one you quoted.

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two above the one i quoted but not in the one i quoted. either way i was asking what you were saying, there was no need to be a dick. i thought potheads were laid back.

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the internet can be scary. maybe i'll stop by if i can work up the courage. can you hold me?

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I think there is an important lesson there that you, for whatever reason that is really is not my place to judge, choose not to see.

I am not on any mission to sway anyone's beliefs. It is my position that this is your(pl) mission... and I, like many others, am sick of it. It is very annoying that when I go out and do what I do in the capacity of my job, I am forced to listen to religious rhetoric because I am a captive audience, and because I am in peoples homes in a professional capacity, cannot engage the subject honestly. Every day. "What church do you go to?" "Do you know Jesus?". No I don't want any watchtower pamphlets. Why do you presume you know better than I with less understanding of your own religion?

Where the hell else am I going to discuss MY beliefs? Sorry if it came across as persecuting... it is the inverse that I accuse you(pl) of.

As I said. I never find Christians who are honest enough to explore their OWN beliefs... they just want to demonstrate that MINE are wrong. When you demonstrate some fundamental problems, they just fall into the blind faith thing, and pick and choose what they like from their book... and snub their nose at people who do not believe as they do...


And there is millennia of history of oppression through religion. Athiests and polytheists are particularly despised in ALL monotheistic religions. They are always subject to death. To cry "I'm being oppressed" because someone snickers at the notion of the rather ridiculous story put forth by the bible is very ironic.

Bring up Scientology to a Christian and they find the notion of all evil being caused by negative thetans, which are supposedly spirits of murdered aliens by another evil alien (Xenu) 75 million years ago laughable... and openly mock them.

Bring up that little line I posted and suddenly Christians get all butt hurt. It is ridiculous.


I am not anti-anything. If you believe you are capable of honest exploration, I will discuss anything you like. If you are not, then you are afraid. Period. So don't mock the notion. Your faith is to weak to question your beliefs. Period.

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two above the one i quoted but not in the one i quoted. either way i was asking what you were saying, there was no need to be a dick. i thought potheads were laid back.

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I began the one you posted with "again" indicating that I had said it before... and you said I didn't say it "anywhere". If you cared at all what I was trying to say, you would have looked up a post. You just jumped into a discussion, saw one line, and went off. It isn't my fault you are lazy.

I found your implication that people who follow their only known purpose in life, which is our fundamental process wired into our brains and bodies as "overpopulaters" dickish. I replied in kind. Your nic implies you have a bit thicker skin. Sorry to offend your tender sensibilities.


If my posts offend you... don't read them. Seems to work well for PVS.

first i never went off, i asked a question to see if that was what you were saying and here i thought trying to understand your point was what you were looking for, not posting and hoping noone reads it. also, overpopulation is a huge problem and one of the main reasons people argue that marriage is between a man and woman is because any other way there will be no children conceived.

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first i never went off, i asked a question to see if that was what you were saying and here i thought trying to understand your point was what you were looking for, not posting and hoping noone reads it. also, overpopulation is a huge problem and one of the main reasons people argue that marriage is between a man and woman is because any other way there will be no children conceived.

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Your very name is you going off. What is your definition of a hater, and what makes you worthy of judging them worthy of being hurt?

Perhaps you should take a look in the mirror and prepare to deliver yourself unto yourself.

Not a problem here. We are talking about US government.


Children ARE the justification government uses... and medical issues are not the business of the government... so they are not in a position to deny benefits to people who may have difficulty conceiving... or they would.

Anyways, so how do you guys feel about abortion? I notice several of you conservative so what's your take on it?