S1 Seeds

theexpress said:

op should have just kept a male and made proper f2 ibls.... would have ensured more males in the future, you run much much less risk of your seeds herming like a lot of s1's do, among other advantages....

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Had one seed, turned out to be female. No male to use. Also, these seeds will have as much chance to herm as the mother did. No more.

but since the way you went about doing things be AWARE UR RUNNING A GREAT CHANCE OF HAVING SHIT HERM ON YA

Adrosmokin said:

Had one seed, turned out to be female. No male to use. Also, these seeds will have as much chance to herm as the mother did. No more.

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they will have a greater chance..... even if both parents were from "stable genetics"

put it to you like this..... every single feminized bean I hhave ever grown has hermed on me to some degree..... shit from dinafem... shit from barneys farm... shit from ghs... only strain I grew from fem. bean aint herm is ghs slh..... waaaay more strains like this hermed then didnt

Put it to you like this...Sounds like grower error to me.

Adrosmokin said:

Put it to you like this...Sounds like grower error to me.

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put it to u like this......... im a waaaaaaaay better and more experienced grower then u...

theexpress said:

bric I got ur pm but ur mailbox is full the answer to ur question is they would be s1's if same phenol os same strain cut from the same donor mother

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sorry bout mailbox. i understand if from same mother, but 2 different female f1 phenos of same strain and you chemically herm 1, using this pollen on other plant the offspring would be ?

brimck325 said:

sorry bout mailbox. i understand if from same mother, but 2 different female f1 phenos of same strain and you chemically herm 1, using this pollen on other plant the offspring would be ?

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if two different female phenos of lthe same strain were used that would make those offspring f'2s.... and I don't know if those would be feminized or reg. I have no experience in crossing two same sex different phenos of the same strain sorry... that's some weird shit to me..

me 2, that's why i was asking...lol....thanks bro!
hmm, maybe f2 using feminized pollen....i'll smoke on it....

I think... If you reverse pollinate a plant (have a female plant grow male flowers and pollinate itself with it's inherently female pollen) and you grow the S1 seeds, you will have a plant that will be 25% likely to dominantly display the genetics of the pollinated female, 25% of the male used to grow the pollinated female, and 50% likelihood of a mix. The aA, AA, aa thing mentioned before.. I don't know if reversed seeds are F2 or S1; but I've always heard of them being called F2's... although, if you were to reverse Blue Mystic (which is a commercial F2) I'd think you'd have an F3 (or an S2); I don't know; I'm def not the best with S's and F's...

theexpress said:

put it to u like this......... im a waaaaaaaay better and more experienced grower then u...

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Literally Lol'd

Adrosmokin said:

Literally Lol'd

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don't trip I been laffing at ur dumb ass this whole time... im sure ive had annual outdoor single harvests that yielded more nugg then all ur grows combined

an f2 would typically show more variation, its going to be like an s1 you should have pretty much your clone in female/hermie seed form it not going to show pheno variation like an f2 would.

Adrosmokin said:

Yes. I understand they are S1's. That's why I named the thread "S1 Seeds". The variation that the seeds, when grown out, should show the variation in phenotype you would typically see in F2's. They will not be clones in seed form.

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they WILL be your clone in seed form, the parent to your s1's is only one plant, you will only get the pheno variability of an f2 when you cross a male and female..its not two different f1's they are the same f1

Genetic makeup for intersex expression NEEDS to be present, or very poor growing conditions to express these traits.
@theexpress, hate to break it to you but the seed companies you listed for fem seeds are all notorious for intersex traits, fwiw.


Peace

intresting ill have to put it to a test and find out..

MrEDuck said:

So lets say you have a plant with hybrid genes aA. When you cross it with another plant that is aA whether that plant is a clone or a sibling or an unrelated plant that happens to have that gene you will see offspring that are AA (25%) aA (50%) and aa (25%).

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correct.

one of the most common mistakes amongst people who want to breed but want stability, there is no shortcuts to stable breeding,