Sarah Champion, Labour MP, obliterates SKYNews corporate shill

ttystikk

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'this is about what we can do for the whole country, not just the privileged few'

I can get behind that.
 

Padawanbater2

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'this is about what we can do for the whole country, not just the privileged few'

I can get behind that.
Did you notice the technique of the newscaster? Jimmy Dore broke it down earlier, I think their analysis is pretty on point. The guy is clearly condescending and asking her questions that put the Labour party on the automatic defensive. You see the same thing if you watch most cable news in the US. Check it out;

 

SneekyNinja

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That would require thinking, which judging by the content of his postings he doesn't bother to engage in.

I found her arguments and approach to be incisive and intelligent.
Except her party is about to suffer a virtual election wipeout.

When will you idiots learn it's not what you say...it's to whom and how you say it?
 

Fogdog

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Howbout the context of this clip? What exactly do you disagree with Champion about?
Two minutes. I got that far. The interview itself was much shorter. The thought guide commentator kept interrupting. As far as I can tell, labor party spokesperson completely out smarted and out idea-ed (not a word, I know) the talking head. If -- repeat -- IF that interview had been edited to make Burgundy less stupid then I'd say you had a point. I think he was demolished and the network fairly portrayed that. I'd vote for her if I could.
 

SneekyNinja

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Two minutes. I got that far. The interview itself was much shorter. The thought guide commentator kept interrupting. As far as I can tell, labor party spokesperson completely out smarted and out idea-ed (not a word, I know) the talking head. If -- repeat -- IF that interview had been edited to make Burgundy less stupid then I'd say you had a point. I think he was demolished and the network fairly portrayed that. I'd vote for her if I could.
Sky News are reasonably impartial; they ask the hard questions to both sides. Quite a popular news source on the other side of the pond.
 

Fogdog

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Sky News are reasonably impartial; they ask the hard questions to both sides. Quite a popular news source on the other side of the pond.
Hard to believe one could say that about a media company that is part of the same conglomerate that brings us Fox news.

I suppose you'll get clobbered by pekerbater for even mentioning Sky News and impartial in the same sentence. You clearly haven't been drinking his kool aide.
 

SneekyNinja

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Hard to believe one could say that about a media company that is part of the same conglomerate that brings us Fox news.

I suppose you'll get clobbered by pekerbater for even mentioning Sky News and impartial in the same sentence. You clearly haven't been drinking his kool aide.
I watch 'em online through a proxy, learnt about their existence in a London hotel room baked one night.

Check them out as a source sometime and compare them to other networks for the same stories, it's interesting to see European coverage of our news.
 

Fogdog

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I watch 'em online through a proxy, learnt about their existence in a London hotel room baked one night.

Check them out as a source sometime and compare them to other networks for the same stories, it's interesting to see European coverage of our news.
You'll probably hate my source but I find the Financial Times to be a good source too. I even have an online subscription. Even the pathologically global capitalist columns are well written, which is hard to find in the US.
 

ttystikk

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Hard to believe one could say that about a media company that is part of the same conglomerate that brings us Fox news.

I suppose you'll get clobbered by pekerbater for even mentioning Sky News and impartial in the same sentence. You clearly haven't been drinking his kool aide.
Stinkydigit has taken Stephen Colbert's observation on right wing 'impartiality' to heart; 'reality has a well known liberal bias'.

The notion that Sky News is impartial is based in the same land of fitting alternative facts to agendas as saying that Ferraris are practical grocery getters.
 

ttystikk

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You'll probably hate my source but I find the Financial Times to be a good source too. I even have an online subscription. Even the pathologically global capitalist columns are well written, which is hard to find in the US.
FT at least gets their facts straight.
 

SneekyNinja

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Stinkydigit has taken Stephen Colbert's observation on right wing 'impartiality' to heart; 'reality has a well known liberal bias'.

The notion that Sky News is impartial is based in the same land of fitting alternative facts to agendas as saying that Ferraris are practical grocery getters.
So you obviously have a number of examples on how they've misreported something or reported "alternative facts"?
 

Fogdog

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FT at least gets their facts straight.
It's an effin richy-rich paper supported by richy-rich types who pay for the investigative journalism. Me, reading some of the articles, it feels like being a goldfish peering out into a world it doesn't live in. But those FT richy-rich types want facts, not the pablum served up by the Wall Street Journal or especially Forbes. I go there regularly to fact check. Also a few opinion columnists are insightful, Martin Wolfe, for one. Gideon Rachman, sometimes.

https://www.ft.com/content/3156a004-3713-11e7-bce4-9023f8c0fd2e
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SneekyNinja

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It's an effin richy-rich paper supported by richy-rich types who pay for the investigative journalism. Me, reading some of the articles, it feels like being a goldfish peering out into a world it doesn't live in. But those FT richy-rich types want facts, not the pablum served up by the Wall Street Journal or especially Forbes. I go there regularly to fact check. Also a few opinion columnists are insightful, Martin Wolfe, for one. Gideon Rachman, sometimes.

https://www.ft.com/content/3156a004-3713-11e7-bce4-9023f8c0fd2e
Donald Trump, Recep Tayyip Erdogan and how democracies die
Turkey’s slide into a repressive autocracy serves as a warning to American citizens

Anybody can access a fixed number of articles per month for free by signing up.
But then you try load up the next one and they cock block you hard :(
 

ttystikk

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It's an effin richy-rich paper supported by richy-rich types who pay for the investigative journalism. Me, reading some of the articles, it feels like being a goldfish peering out into a world it doesn't live in. But those FT richy-rich types want facts, not the pablum served up by the Wall Street Journal or especially Forbes. I go there regularly to fact check. Also a few opinion columnists are insightful, Martin Wolfe, for one. Gideon Rachman, sometimes.

https://www.ft.com/content/3156a004-3713-11e7-bce4-9023f8c0fd2e
Donald Trump, Recep Tayyip Erdogan and how democracies die
Turkey’s slide into a repressive autocracy serves as a warning to American citizens

Anybody can access a fixed number of articles per month for free by signing up.
Agreed on their perspective. It seems the smart money would still rather have the facts.

Oooo- thanks for the tip! Where does one sign up for that? I only found pay options...
 
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