Should Oklahoma tornado victims get Federal Dollars...

Dr Kynes

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My Obamacare info..My policy is the 1500 and that is what my deductible is....And what that covers I have no idea, These are the only choices there is for me....So you can see it is not cheap...

I am not sure what Co pay is?....I know that I don't get any help or tax credits because of my income...
first you need to find out what actually is covered, how many doctor visits you can have, whether prescriptions are covered (which they probably arent) vision/dental? is there and annual maximum payout? etc etc etc.

you should also find out what services require a co-pay, and what your deductible is.

otherwise you might just be throwing your money down a rathole.

medical insurance that only covers paying the orderly who wheels you into the morgue isnt worth shit.

what you want for that much dough is a FULL MEDICAL PLAN like there used to be before HMO's where you pay $X/month and you are covered for everything from a kid with the sniffles to full body traction after an ill-advised attempt at Bull Riding.
 

nitro harley

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first you need to find out what actually is covered, how many doctor visits you can have, whether prescriptions are covered (which they probably arent) vision/dental? is there and annual maximum payout? etc etc etc.

you should also find out what services require a co-pay, and what your deductible is.

otherwise you might just be throwing your money down a rathole.

medical insurance that only covers paying the orderly who wheels you into the morgue isnt worth shit.

what you want for that much dough is a FULL MEDICAL PLAN like there used to be before HMO's where you pay $X/month and you are covered for everything from a kid with the sniffles to full body traction after an ill-advised attempt at Bull Riding.
I am afraid people that are my age have no choices other than take it or leave it......Nobody else will take my money at any price...
 

UncleBuck

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I am afraid people that are my age have no choices other than take it or leave it......Nobody else will take my money at any price...
thank goodness for for-profit health schemes! capitalism FTW!

imagine how much easier it would be for you to buy insurance if we let insurers cherrypick the healthiest members across state lines!*

boy, life is so grand when your health is a money maker for the private sector.









*combine this with making it near impossible to sue for malpractice, and the health care problem in america is solved, according to the GOP you love so much.
 

Dr Kynes

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thank goodness for for-profit health schemes! capitalism FTW!

imagine how much easier it would be for you to buy insurance if we let insurers cherrypick the healthiest members across state lines!*

boy, life is so grand when your health is a money maker for the private sector.









*combine this with making it near impossible to sue for malpractice, and the health care problem in america is solved, according to the GOP you love so much.
conversely, turning the entire system into a money printing machine run by private companies and mandating EVERYBODY must kneel at their feet and give them their homage is hardly a solution.
 

SlaveNoMore

Active Member
So much apathy so little time. Of course these people should receive whatever help they need. They are human beings. So they take the money and turn their neighborhood into Mcmansion land, so what? They are going to be somebody's problem regardless so why not get them started off on level ground again.

It troubles me to read "fuck'm". Does being a conservative mean that you only help those who can help themselves? I don't think they chose for a tornado to wipe out their community and now they are sitting there asking themselves, what the fuck now?

As if there isn't enough apathy in the world already?
 

nitro harley

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thank goodness for for-profit health schemes! capitalism FTW!

imagine how much easier it would be for you to buy insurance if we let insurers cherrypick the healthiest members across state lines!*

boy, life is so grand when your health is a money maker for the private sector.









*combine this with making it near impossible to sue for malpractice, and the health care problem in america is solved, according to the GOP you love so much.
Hey Buck...

I am just glad that I have health care, for awhile I didn't.. so really its all good, I just wish that it was cheaper..I mentioned this awhile back about loving politicians, it will never happen, I love my family and my dog and thats it...
 

UncleBuck

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conversely, turning the entire system into a money printing machine run by private companies and mandating EVERYBODY must kneel at their feet and give them their homage is hardly a solution.
it's a good thing that registered republicans like you who love competition so much fought so hard to kill the public option, i.e. more competition.

you guys are just in love with stupid. break it to prove it's broken.
 

spandy

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So for those of us who are smart enough to live outside of these disaster zones, do we get like a free snow cone or something for every year we dont ask for free money because we built our house where tornados and hurricanes hang out?

Its sad what happened, I feel for the children especially, but fuck those people who think the rest of us should help pay for their shitty decisions. Send them a memo to get the fuck out, before it happens again.
 

ginjawarrior

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So for those of us who are smart enough to live outside of these disaster zones, do we get like a free snow cone or something for every year we dont ask for free money because we built our house where tornados and hurricanes hang out?

Its sad what happened, I feel for the children especially, but fuck those people who think the rest of us should help pay for their shitty decisions. Send them a memo to get the fuck out, before it happens again.
As most of the USA is prone to disasters in one shape or form are you suggesting that everyone moves to where you are?
 

UncleBuck

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So for those of us who are smart enough to live outside of these disaster zones, do we get like a free snow cone or something for every year we dont ask for free money because we built our house where tornados and hurricanes hang out?

Its sad what happened, I feel for the children especially, but fuck those people who think the rest of us should help pay for their shitty decisions. Send them a memo to get the fuck out, before it happens again.
give me a rough idea of where you live and i will likely tell you several disasters that could befall you.

just about nowhere is safe.
 

Orlandocb

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The rocky mountains, the only natural disaster I've had to deal with is too much snow. Flooding is pretty improbable the floods would have to rise hundreds of feet atleast the terrain is not in its favor. Even the dirt devils are pitiful. but the run off in the spring does some damage

edit: maybe a super volcano that's a few hundred miles out
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
The rocky mountains, the only natural disaster I've had to deal with is too much snow. Flooding is pretty improbable the floods would have to rise hundreds of feet atleast the terrain is not in its favor. Even the dirt devils are pitiful. but the run off in the spring does some damage

edit: maybe a super volcano that's a few hundred miles out
The 900-lb. gorilla, that one. cn
 

UncleBuck

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The rocky mountains, the only natural disaster I've had to deal with is too much snow. Flooding is pretty improbable the floods would have to rise hundreds of feet atleast the terrain is not in its favor. Even the dirt devils are pitiful. but the run off in the spring does some damage

edit: maybe a super volcano that's a few hundred miles out
massive blizzards, flooding, tornadoes.

i've heard of tornadoes all the way up in evergreen, co at about 8,000' or so.
 

Red1966

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The rocky mountains, the only natural disaster I've had to deal with is too much snow. Flooding is pretty improbable the floods would have to rise hundreds of feet atleast the terrain is not in its favor. Even the dirt devils are pitiful. but the run off in the spring does some damage edit: maybe a super volcano that's a few hundred miles out
Mudslides, rockfalls, avalanche, fire, lightening, animal attacks, termites, meteors.
 

Orlandocb

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Mudslides, rockfalls, avalanche don't apply mountains surround me but not that close. Fire and lighting is pretty good, the fire seasons can be rough one of the only insurances i need.

Didn't think of meteors, that would fucking suck. The black bears around here are wimps cats chase them off. Cougars are more rare and stay away from the town but that would be the only thing. Don't think theres ever been a report of a wild animal attack here, damn the stray dogs though.

Termites can't survive around here for some reason and i would hardly consider that a natural disaster.

There is way worse places to be rampaged by a natural disaster
 

spandy

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Buck I was referring to regular, yearly occurances. I was not interested in what your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate had to say on the matter.



Why does some dude living clear over in Oregon (not you though Buck, I am referring to a tax paying Oregonian) have to pay for tornado damage caused in a known tornado danger zone, that is thousands of miles away?
 

MuyLocoNC

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So much apathy so little time. Of course these people should receive whatever help they need. They are human beings. So they take the money and turn their neighborhood into Mcmansion land, so what? They are going to be somebody's problem regardless so why not get them started off on level ground again.

It troubles me to read "fuck'm". Does being a conservative mean that you only help those who can help themselves? I don't think they chose for a tornado to wipe out their community and now they are sitting there asking themselves, what the fuck now?

As if there isn't enough apathy in the world already?
I'm one of those heartless bastards to which you referred. I have sympathy for the people involved, and they should receive assistance from state funded emergency services and since we've already paid for it, some Federal assistance as well. But, that assistance should be limited to basic survival needs and temporary shelter...very temporary.

My wife is a fire & casualty claims adjuster for State Farm, the first checks for lodging are sent immediately to reimburse policy holders for any money they have spent on hotels. There is no excuse for assistance, other than medical, past 48 hours. Local hotels full? Stay with a relative or haul ye ass outta there and drive until you find one. Car fucked up? Well, that's insured as well and a rental is yours for the taking, even if you have to have someone drive you 4 hours to get one. No one said this was gonna be easy, it's a disaster.

Past that...nothing. That's why homeowners carry insurance. If some of them didn't have insurance, tough titties. They still own the property, pitch a fucking tent and carry on. If the state wants to help its residents, that's fantastic. I for one, don't want a penny of my taxes going for that bullshit.
 

UncleBuck

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why you gotta delete my post, bear?

spandy is the one mouth farting proven falsehoods all over the place, i'm just firing back at the angry little retard.
 
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