so 2400k and 6500k cfls are the way to go ?

so 2400k for flower and 6500k for veg cfls are the way to go ? if using cfl's

Bingo!!!!!!!!

2700k normally for flowering but veg is correct.

alrighty thanks guys

i veg with 4100k lights and have great results

bnoc450 u may have bette results with 6500k, wateva works best for you though dude

wow 6500k and 12 hours later best results yet thanks guys

no worries dude glad to hear its working out for you

now for the question of the day how close can a 24 watt 6500k cfl be to a seedling showing all beginning leaves so far its very bright green with a redish brownish stem sitting straight up i hear just so it wont burn so is that about an inch or inch and 1/2 away

yer inch to inch and alf is just fine, it wont burn the plant unless its on the plant really

alright cool ya the bulb dosent seem very hot its just when u hold your finger on it for more than 30 seconds than it starts to get hot lol but right off of it isent hot at all

yer i know i got cfls also i mean i can even hold my hand on my big flowering 200w 1 for bout 20 secs lol b4 it feels hot

ya i dident reli trust em with the heat issue till i had it on for about 20 hours lol and relized ther reli low heat

i have 1600 lumens per 1x is that enough or should i crank it up a lil

im not 100% u want 50 w per square foot

will someone pleez tell me how to know which lights are 2700k-6500k i cant seem to find these numbers on the boxes the lights came in. maybe its just not on the box of lights i bought (3pk of 23watters)

It says it on the bulb.....lol

and the 6500 are reli bright white and 2700 are like a browninsh dim color like a sun set

wait wait wait ... so how do you even know you have 2700's and 6500;s lol

Some brands don't say the Kelvin rating (2700K, 6500K etc) they just say "Warm white", "cool daylight" etc. Higher Kelvin numbers are called "COOL" (5000K, 6500K etc) and lower ones are called WARM (2700K, 3000K etc).

Make sure you check the entire packaging, my CFL had Cool Daylight all over the packaging but only on the bottom of the box it specified "6500K Cool Daylight".

Why did you buy a pack of lights if you didnt know what they were?