Square's Flower Tent...Mixing the spectrum's

Whats good? Here is my set up, its a mix of hps and led. I will update with pics at least once a week.

I am using a Secert Jardin dr120 tent.

For LED Im running one Blackstar 240 flower plus an Ledwholesalers 300w panel. The actual draw on each panel is 135w and 128w respectively. I was very happy with my blackstar unit until......I found a damaged led in the panel like many others here have reported. I purchased that blackstar new from in march 2012 I have a one year warranty and I know they will stand behind it.

In the Hps department Im running a 400w hps on a digi ballast made by revolt. Its a simple bat wing reflector that accommodates metal hallide too.

I am growing with seeds that I have gotten from good bud I've bought from dispensaries. Such as super silver haze, purple romulan, C99, etc. I also like to have fun with my own crosses.

I have one plant that comes from a cross of a super silver haze and purple romulan. I had topped it @ the 3rd node when she (kaya) grew to her 6th node and made a nice bush. I took a few clones off her late in the game and threw em in the flower tent along with kaya. I then pollinated two of them with pollen from a super tight noded indica male.

I also took 8 clones off her when she was 3 weeks into flower and got em to root. they are now in 18/6 under led and will be "monster cropped"

here is a shot of Kaya the mother of the clones on the cooler. she is in ffof and perlite. Fed fox farms trio. she went into flower on 5/16


kaya's buds





canopy shot


this is the top of a super silver haze that was vegged 18/6 for 4 weeks and then 12/12 on 5/16. Its in 40% ffof 40% perlite and 10% peat she is fed jacks 20-20-20 and bloom booster. She has a ways to go. this plant smells just like juicy fruit.


this is a random bag seed that was topped young and vegged for 4 weeks same soil and nutes as super silver. it has a fruity smell


this is a bad shot of a "two main cola" plant that was topped young and a quick veg same soil mix as above. This plant has no smell at all.


this is a clone that is producing seeds

close up of seeds



clones under ledwholesalers unit.


Thanks for stopping by and taking a look. Comments welcome as always.

Love the various strains you have going! SSH is a personal favorite of mine. Interested to hear how your two leds compare to eachother, which seems like the better light? Good luck, peace and im subbed.

Keep on threadin. I like the light in that room, and I look forward to seeing the fruits of your labor.
Subbed,
ILovePlants

Thanks for subbing up Puff! Im glad to have you aboard. I too love the super silvers this particular pheno is so damn fruity I just wanna eat it.

I got the ledwholsalers unit used for $75 on the ole craigslist. This guy sold me some good gear that was hardly used at 1/4 the price. Ive had that panel for some time playing various roles and the plants just love it.

As far as the blackstar goes I'm torn. The price was good however I got the unit in march of this year and one led is already out. The unit makes noise but that does not bother me as I have the grow in my basement. Sometimes the fans squeak a bit. The plants love the spectrum that it provides and grow vigorously under the light. However I have concerns regarding long term use as the unit already has one led out and is only a mere 3 months old.

My current favorite led unit is not in my flower tent oddly enough. Its a no name led unit that I scooped up on the cheap.. It draws 80w and is great for vegetative growth so its hanging in my clone/seedling tent along side a sunshine system glowpanel45.

here is that tent


no name panel 80w actual draw


The glowpanel above some seedlings that were topped early UB styleee and some clones that were taken from kaya in 3rd week of flowering, now being re vegged.


here is a view of a clone re vegging and starting to grow baby one leaf shooters.

good to have you aboard too Iloveplants!!

Nice setup you have going. I love all the different strains, you have a lot going on. Definitely subbed.

One word on that Blackstar panel... Send it in as soon as you can to have it fixed. It is a known problem and once the diode is replaced you should be good to go. However if you wait too long that diode will take out other rows when it shits the bed.

Loving it Square, I've got three clones I'm going to be monster cropping once my current grow finishes in my CFL grow box and one that is currently blasting off in my LED grow box.

Sub'd fo sho.

Amaximus said:

Nice setup you have going. I love all the different strains, you have a lot going on. Definitely subbed.

One word on that Blackstar panel... Send it in as soon as you can to have it fixed. It is a known problem and once the diode is replaced you should be good to go. However if you wait too long that diode will take out other rows when it shits the bed.

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Thanks for hoppin' on board, glad to have your input. Its funny that you posted this as I was just thinking about my options.

the diode is completely blown. What bothers me is that this unit is only 3 months old. IF i return it and they fix that led great, but what happens when the next led burns out... I gotta send it back again to be fixed in november? Maybe its best to hang on a bit longer and send it back in the fall? Looks like I gotta call Gotham up and have the talk.

This may be a LEGIT excuse to buy new panel

I took two pix while smoking a j of some trainwreck my buddy grew.

a bud from kaya


super silver haze getting led on one side and hps on the other.

Nice girls square!............interested on what panel your thinking about...........keep up the great led grows brother

squarefodder said:

Thanks for hoppin' on board, glad to have your input. Its funny that you posted this as I was just thinking about my options.

the diode is completely blown. What bothers me is that this unit is only 3 months old. IF i return it and they fix that led great, but what happens when the next led burns out... I gotta send it back again to be fixed in november? Maybe its best to hang on a bit longer and send it back in the fall? Looks like I gotta call Gotham up and have the talk.

This may be a LEGIT excuse to buy new panel

I took two pix while smoking a j of some trainwreck my buddy grew.

a bud from kaya
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super silver haze getting led on one side and hps on the other.
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Yeah, my panel is from March as well. Only around 3 months old. From my understanding it was a problem with the diode itself that they were using at the time. Because isn't that center one UV or IR? I forget. The ones they use now are not the same so there shouldn't be the same issue with it burning out within three months. Or so they say. That's why I'm just stressing you send it in as soon as you can because once it is remedied it should be fixed for good. Something to that effect. I'm baked.

Of course if you're looking for an excuse to buy a new panel it's as good of an excuse as any! lol! Been there, done that! haha.

Ill have taken one more trip around the sun in July. Maybe ill treat myself to a new light, if i do I think it might be California light works. I like their 200w unit for another "led satelite" in my tent. I also like what Petflora has done with his "par t5" I would just need to think of a way to set a t5 up without blocking light from other units.

Only thing is, I have this retro Raliegh (bicycle) I'm in the middle of modding and if i want to finish it this summer I gotta put some hobby funds into that. Decisions decisions.....

I will call Gotham Monday and see what is required of me to fix the unit. Maybe they'll send me a unit upfront as im a good customer and in the middle of a grow.

I'm just grateful I have these sort of problems

squarefodder said:

Ill have taken one more trip around the sun in July. Maybe ill treat myself to a new light, if i do I think it might be California light works. I like their 200w unit for another "led satelite" in my tent. I also like what Petflora has done with his "par t5" I would just need to think of a way to set a t5 up without blocking light from other units.

Only thing is, I have this retro Raliegh (bicycle) I'm in the middle of modding and if i want to finish it this summer I gotta put some hobby funds into that. Decisions decisions.....

I will call Gotham Monday and see what is required of me to fix the unit. Maybe they'll send me a unit upfront as im a good customer and in the middle of a grow.

I'm just grateful I have these sort of problems

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I was offered two options...

1.) Put a hold on my cc for a new panel that they send upfront and when the old model is sent back they refund the hold for the new panel.
2.) Send back the new panel first (Pay shipping to them). When they receive the panel they send a new panel back. (They pay return shipping)

PS - Those Cali Lightworks panels get me all excited. They're just so damn expensive!

Thanks for the heads up Amax, Its good to hear they are standing behind the units. I'm just concerned about what were going to be dealing with in 2013 when we have blackstars that are out of warranty...its gonna be a dooosey!!!!

Cali light works get me excited too. I have to do more research to figure out whats most reliable. I'm willing to spend a bit more for better quality/warranties/design etc. And Im only willing to buy smaller units as i like to mix it all up.

If i did a t5 like petflora it would be a small 2*4 unit i think.

If you were to buy a new led unit lets say 200- 250w actual draw what would you scoop up?

Fix the bike!!! that's what I'd do, always can use a nice bike to cruise on a warm summer day. i like the california lightworks too and really, they aren't that expensive $/watt wise and you are getting some of what I'd consider to be among the better lights on the market.

squarefodder said:

Thanks for the heads up Amax, Its good to hear they are standing behind the units. I'm just concerned about what were going to be dealing with in 2013 when we have blackstars that are out of warranty...its gonna be a dooosey!!!!

Cali light works get me excited too. I have to do more research to figure out whats most reliable. I'm willing to spend a bit more for better quality/warranties/design etc. And Im only willing to buy smaller units as i like to mix it all up.

If i did a t5 like petflora it would be a small 2*4 unit i think.

If you were to buy a new led unit lets say 200- 250w actual draw what would you scoop up?

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I don't even want to think about 2013. I would imagine this product behaves the same as any other product after the warranty expires... It will break.

But seriously, I hope anything that is going to happen will happen soon. Once the warranties start running out this is all going to become a clusterfuck. With that being said I'm always in the market for a new panel... Which leads me to your question...

That's a good question regarding the panels. Cali light works panels would definitely be on my short list. As would vipar, kessil, advanced led, apache... Ya know what? I just don't have a favorite atm. There seems to be an influx of quality leds right now and I'm kind of standing on the sidelines, drooling and trying to decide myself. The vipar A200, A300 or Cali lightworks 200w are what get me excited the most currently.

plants look great square im subbed for sure

also i would say stay away from california lightworks for the time being , im sure they have good lights but at the prices they sell them at they are marking them up 100% maybe more...... thats outrageous and an outright rip off and untill they lower there prices i would not reccomend them to anyone but when you can afford full page adds in high times why would you lower your prices right? seems blackstars are a good panel but that whole very limited warranty thing scares alot 1 year is a joke. definitely give vipar a look they are some solid well performing panels for sure amongst the best on the market in my opinion and at a great price tag as well

squarefodder said:

Ill have taken one more trip around the sun in July. Maybe ill treat myself to a new light, if i do I think it might be California light works. I like their 200w unit for another "led satelite" in my tent. I also like what Petflora has done with his "par t5" I would just need to think of a way to set a t5 up without blocking light from other units.

Only thing is, I have this retro Raliegh (bicycle) I'm in the middle of modding and if i want to finish it this summer I gotta put some hobby funds into that. Decisions decisions.....

I will call Gotham Monday and see what is required of me to fix the unit. Maybe they'll send me a unit upfront as im a good customer and in the middle of a grow.

I'm just grateful I have these sort of problems

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I gotta agree here about CLW panels are great........I really like their new 100w solarflare and get two(veg+bloom booster combo) over a 3x3 area/ two sources of light overlapping/ drool ..............i think it would be killer......

I agree with you Curly they are expensive. Do you think prices will really come down in the near future? I know they just had a 5% off sale.

Psuagro I def think your idea would grow some bomb cannabis, multiple units really allow you to dial in your settings. Prob could get better deal buying 2 or 3 @ a time.

Like Amax said eairler it may be wise to wait it out for a few more months and see what deals pop up on quality units only. It's no deal if the unit is breaking down frequently ya know?

I've been eyeing that company for a awhile, and have had many discussions with George(CLW).......If you email him a couple times, he usually throws a 10% off code(FYI).....the 100 watt unit runs the same massive heatsink but with half the diodes than the 200w........cooling will be better and two(100w) of them should easily beat the 200w due to coverage area increase IMO............and completely built in cali with top quality(ledengin) 5w diodes pushed to 4.2w..........

btw this 100w panel was what I was gonna run for my test but they didn't release the "full cycle" panel in time(production issues)............