Task Force Report

Magic budder machine apperently makes a tincture aswell; have never used it or herd of its results, just letting you know its an option

Ahemait said:

Every rich person has a trust fund or something similar. Same with foundations. It's for tax purposes. And the vast majority of prime ministers have been filthy rich well before they got in office, moot points are moot.

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Its for tax purposes, to avoid paying higher t axs, and for shady buisness deals to seam legit... he is turning out to be no better then Hillary Clinton.

thccbdhealth said:

Well The truth is the prohibition on marijuana and hemp is solely because of the oil corporations, Hemp was the largest pharmaceutical up untill this 80 year prohibition.

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WOW. In the 1000's of hours of research I have done about cannabis, this is the first time I saw someone cite the oil corporations for being at fault. I have so much I would like to say about your post, but for now I only wish to take the high road. That said I am always interested in any new info so please feel free to post some links that even mildly validate that statement.
Cheers!

zoic said:

WOW. In the 1000's of hours of research I have done about cannabis, this is the first time I saw someone cite the oil corporations for being at fault. I have so much I would like to say about your post, but for now I only wish to take the high road. That said I am always interested in any new info so please feel free to post some links that even mildly validate that statement.
Cheers!

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No shortage of tinfoil hats in this group.

Itsme.

zoi: 13208797 said:

WOW. In the 1000's of hours of research I have done about cannabis, this is the first time I saw someone cite the oil corporations for being at fault. I have so much I would like to say about your post, but for now I only wish to take the high road. That said I am always interested in any new info so please feel free to post some links that even mildly validate that statement.
Cheers!

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The first automobiles were fuled by alcohol, hemp has 10 x as much carbon in it over corn; for bio fuels.
an acre of hemp in a season, yields as much paper as 4 acers of forest, that takes years to grow.
The late Mr. Rockefellers and his oil company were a large push for the prohibition on alcohol and hemp

thccbdhealth said:

The first automobiles were fuled by alcohol, hemp has 10 x as much carbon in it over corn; for bio fuels.
an acre of hemp in a season, yields as much paper as 4 acers of forest, that takes years to grow.
The late Mr. Rockefellers and his oil company were a large push for the prohibition on alcohol and hemp

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It's not just oil companies that are opposed to legalization, Dupont also had a large role in establishing prohibition due to hemp's usage as a fiber. Let's just say that drug companies and alcohol companies donating to anti-legalization efforts aren't the first ones to put money and effort into derailing cannabis being legal.

It's not some kind of vast conspiracy, it's just competitors trying to keep out a new entrant. Ainslinger's justifications for establishing prohibition were pretty shady overall.

JungleStrikeGuy said:

Depending on what the government implements of course, but the whole 'registering with police' bit and whatever restrictions are implemented locally by the provinces or cities may exclude classes of people like renters, etc.

The task force recommends the ACMPR continue for 5 years, and changes to that program don't have to explicitly go before Phelan, a new case would have to be launched based on whatever changes the government makes to the current ACMPR. My guess is the government won't bother, but you never know.

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I wonder why 5 years?

thccbdhealth said:

The first automobiles were fuled by alcohol, hemp has 10 x as much carbon in it over corn; for bio fuels.
an acre of hemp in a season, yields as much paper as 4 acres of forest, that takes years to grow.
The late Mr. Rockefeller s and his oil company were a large push for the prohibition on alcohol and hemp

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TY. I guess we may have slightly different interpretations of similar info. My understanding is that yes Rockefeller was on the same page as Aslinger but had a different agenda. IMHO Rockefeller was after control of the medical industry not only for profits from Big Pharma, but also to control what doctors are taught, with a focus on pharmaceuticals. I have some awesome bookmarks on the subject, so when I find them I will share.

WHATFG said:

I wonder why 5 years?

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If we consider the legislation will be passed in say, Fall of this year (as in fully passed, given Royal Assent), it's likely going to take until 2018-2019 for things to be fully implemented, so that puts us at 3 years from now when things actually get rolling. So realistically the full impact on medical won't be seen for a few years beyond that, 5 was likely picked because it's a nice round number.

thccbdhealth said:

I suppose your unaware of the fact that Justin has a trust fund from his father and i suppose your also unaware of the foundation Justin set up in his fathers name... i supposing your also unaware of the shadyness of some contributions to that fund...
he presents him self as one of the people, a middle class drama teacher, but the truth is he will never know what its like to live like the majority of people of witch he now governs

Well The truth is the prohibition on marijuana and hemp is solely because of the oil corporations, Hemp was the largest pharmaceutical up untill this 80 year prohibition.

If you are unaware of any of this;
You Are Not Smarter Then a Dyslexic 5th Grader

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I am aware that he along with thousands of other offspring of the wealthy have trust funds. Rich people do that shit. Perhaps you can enlighten us on the 'shadyness' with some facts, although I fail to see what any of it has to do with legalization. Justin wasn't responsible for prohibition and neither was his old man. Seeing as though we were just given a glimpse of what looks like a very workable legal system, what exactly is the point of bringing up the PM's wealth or oil corporations? Seems your beef may be political rather than cannabis related. I can help there, too. Can you name the last poor prime minister? Harper wasn't super-rich when he took office, but he fixed that before he left.
See, I'm just as smart as a dyslexic 5th Grader.lol

It would have to go in front of the judge because the new system has to be good for the people that have the pinks still. If they do not like the new system, then they go back to court, if the new system is being threatened to end in 5 years then this will not work, we have our right to grow.

zoic said:

WOW. In the 1000's of hours of research I have done about cannabis, this is the first time I saw someone cite the oil corporations for being at fault. I have so much I would like to say about your post, but for now I only wish to take the high road. That said I am always interested in any new info so please feel free to post some links that even mildly validate that statement.
Cheers!

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research online don't get you a lot of truth! facts are key. ive known the oil industry is behind hemp and cannabis being outlawed for 80yrs! now big pharma is a partner along with Monsanto ect

torontomeds said:

It would have to go in front of the judge because the new system has to be good for the people that have the pinks still. If they do not like the new system, then they go back to court, if the new system is being threatened to end in 5 years then this will not work, we have our right to grow.

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Yep about people with MMAR authorizations, however there's no onus on the government to submit any changes to the ACMPR for constitutional approval by a court, they could just put a notice in the gazette. Allard v Canada was based on the MMPR which is now gone. So challenging the ACMPR as a whole for everyone requires a new case. Going before Phelan would happen if the government motions to lift the injunction, that's where they'll have to defend why. Any decision by Phelan at that point would affect injunctees only, and not be a finding of constitutionality (or not) of the ACMPR. I suspect the government will just not bother and leave the injunctees alone, but you never know.

And remember that in Phelan's own words, 'This case does not turn on a right to grow, nor have the plaintiffs asked for such a finding'. So as it stands on the books right now, there is no right to grow, only a finding that the MMPR unduly violated Charter rights, and therefore does not satisfy the previously established right to a constitutional exemption from a blanket prohibition on cannabis established in R v Parker.

Now beyond blanket price fixing I don't see how the government would ever justify another ban on growing, so it's probably as good as an affirmative right to grow, but it's helpful to keep in mind how the law stands on paper.

Oil companies, cotton farmers and
Alcohol manufacturers have all chipped in on the war against drugs but the racists in the White House sure helped.
Doesn't matter why prohibition started what's important is we will be alive to finally see it end.

I would have never bet I'd live to see the day an uneducated political puppet would recommend everyone over 18 should be legally allowed to grow 4 plants

Slow progress is still progress
I hope every other Canadian grows their 4 plants.
The lps better up their grow game once there's 3million experts.

zoic said:

WOW. In the 1000's of hours of research I have done about cannabis, this is the first time I saw someone cite the oil corporations for being at fault. I have so much I would like to say about your post, but for now I only wish to take the high road. That said I am always interested in any new info so please feel free to post some links that even mildly validate that statement.
Cheers!

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it was actually j paul getty and the paper industry

zoic said:

Funny you should say that. I have MS and I recently discovered that HC recommends Sativex for treatment of spasticity. I realize that it is a pharmaceutical out of Britain but it is made from whole plant. If I was fortunate enough to find a doctor/neurologist to prescribe it I would just need to cook of the alcohol to create my own cannabis oil. Both hash and pot provide amazing relief from the muscle clenching referred to as the "MS belt"

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Welcome to the board. Fellow MS patient here, feel free to ask any questions you may have about cannabis and MS

thccbdhealth said:

Magic budder machine apperently makes a tincture aswell; have never used it or herd of its results, just letting you know its an option

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I have one, theyre great.

BOYCOTT LP's...or be the fish they need for dinner. Here we go with another giddy LP fanboy....

THe point had absolutely nothing to do with the trust fund itself... its the fact its there; and then how he plays him self off to be one of the middle class


The beef is his campaign started as a legalization and as the pre election continued it changed entirely to controled access..... they are 2 entirely different platforms.

What else do we expect? To grow a plant as i see fit, just as i would my Broccoli or Spinach
I have been useing hemp medicinaly for the last 10 years and am only now being able to "register" into a medicinal systems to get those rights.

this is unconstitutional and that has been decided in court granted these changes to the medical system...

so to have a platform based on legislation, then to go and give instructions for the police to uphold the unconstitutional laws that have been challenged to be changed threw the Queens qourt; as his platform was legalization...
yah im pissed; im also chocked that were now into the 3erd medical system and they still arnt getting it right.


Hows this for insight into a Drama Teacher