Task Force Report

VIANARCHRIS

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The beef is his campaign started as a legalization and as the pre election continued it changed entirely to controled access..... they are 2 entirely different platforms.
How so? Is booze legal or do we just have controlled access? How about smokes? How about driving a car or doing renos on your house? There are restrictions on almost everything. Society has laws and rules. Cannabis is an intoxicant, not the same as broccoli or spinach. Something can be legal with controls, it's what makes a civilized society. We may not like some of the controls we are forced to live by, but.....
 

torontomeds

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Yep about people with MMAR authorizations, however there's no onus on the government to submit any changes to the ACMPR for constitutional approval by a court, they could just put a notice in the gazette. Allard v Canada was based on the MMPR which is now gone. So challenging the ACMPR as a whole for everyone requires a new case. Going before Phelan would happen if the government motions to lift the injunction, that's where they'll have to defend why. Any decision by Phelan at that point would affect injunctees only, and not be a finding of constitutionality (or not) of the ACMPR. I suspect the government will just not bother and leave the injunctees alone, but you never know.

And remember that in Phelan's own words, 'This case does not turn on a right to grow, nor have the plaintiffs asked for such a finding'. So as it stands on the books right now, there is no right to grow, only a finding that the MMPR unduly violated Charter rights, and therefore does not satisfy the previously established right to a constitutional exemption from a blanket prohibition on cannabis established in R v Parker.

Now beyond blanket price fixing I don't see how the government would ever justify another ban on growing, so it's probably as good as an affirmative right to grow, but it's helpful to keep in mind how the law stands on paper.
But the injunction was for them to come up with a program that includes home growing, and they will not lift it until they find the new program to be ok. So the new program ACMPR is a direct answer to the injunction, so I do not see how the two are not connected, in order for the lawyers to agree they have to have a good program in place. Anyways, I have my new papers and they are saying 5 years until review, then at least 2 more years to roll out, and that is if it does not end up in court, and in the next 7 years who knows what will happen, maybe they will let everyone grow at home by then.
To be honest I do not give a shit, I will have my garden here for the next 7 years, after that point, maybe I will go commercial.
 

VIANARCHRIS

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I have one too make coconut oil infused add a little letchin or how ever ya spell the shit.... I found store bought brownie mix and make cupcakes works awesome hardly any work to make
I would recommend magic butter machine to anyone
Might have to get one. Tip: buy a gingerbread cookie mix from the grocery store and add your butter- amazing taste!
 

Jackal69

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http://boysahoy.com/brown-sugar-cinnamon-coconut-oil-cookies/

Sry to do a thread highjack but
... oh well

Just to add when I got mine like a year ago or more ..... there was a warning on their website about ebay mail order knock offs

I ordered from the website phone number and it shipped from canada

Another edit lol
lecithin ..... I think it's soy.... but apparentlyit's used in the oil to keep it from separating and suspend the infused weed in the oil.... very small amount needed
 
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GrowRock

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I can't remember the exact link it was from skunk pharma or badkat but I use 1 ounce of dried frozen cannabis to 1 cup of coconut oil with 1 tablespoon of soy letchen per ounce. I also bake my bud in the oven in a wrapped cake pan at 235°F for 30 to 35 minutes then I put it in the freezer for three hours. I make 3 cup/once batches at once I also run the butter machine twice per batch adds to the end product
 

Jackal69

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I can't remember the exact link it was from skunk pharma or badkat but I use 1 ounce of dried frozen cannabis to 1 cup of coconut oil with 1 tablespoon of soy letchen per ounce. I also bake my bud in the oven in a wrapped cake pan at 235°F for 30 to 35 minutes then I put it in the freezer for three hours. I make 3 cup/once batches at once I also run the butter machine twice per batch adds to the end product
Why freeze then bake then freeze
Maybe count out the first freeze
Do ya crumble it before ya stick in the machine... it says not too much but I make sure no stems ....I wonder if I grind it before might work better
 

GrowRock

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Why freeze then bake then freeze
Maybe count out the first freeze
Do ya crumble it before ya stick in the machine... it says not too much but I make sure no stems ....I wonder if I grind it before might work better
I don't crumble it. But I do pull all stems out and break it up into tiny buds the size of a gumball. The freeze before it goes into the butter machine just helps keep the vegetable oils from the plant out of the end product
 

gb123

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The TASK FORCE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO ALLOW WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DEEMED LEGAL IN THE COURTS!!!


(: and even what they had to say has to much CONTROL to it...it'll never pass! :wink:


couple more years of this shit for sure as we've said, since day one!!:eyesmoke:

cheers oh wanna be greedy LP ears!
 

VIANARCHRIS

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Most people are quite happy with the task force report. Not everything to please everybody, but more than most had hoped for. A very workable system allowing for small growers, personal gardens and a reasonable age limit. There are some here that just cannot accept that their paranoia and government conspiracy theories did not pan out...
 

GrowRock

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Most people are quite happy with the task force report. Not everything to please everybody, but more than most had hoped for. A very workable system allowing for small growers, personal gardens and a reasonable age limit. There are some here that just cannot accept that their paranoia and government conspiracy theories did not pan out...
Chris please don't feed the troll lmfao
 

canadian1969

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Just finished reading the report and I think overall its not too bad. The main things where they are clueless seem to be:

Road side testing
  • Determine whether to establish a per se
    limit as part of a comprehensive approach to
    cannabis-impaired driving, acting on findings of
    the Drugs and Driving Committee, a committee
    of the Canadian Society of Forensic Science, a
    professional organization of scientists in the
    various forensic disciplines
Doesn't work yet so pointless to pursue , as described in the May 2016 report from the Canadian Centre on Substance Abuse. Cops can still do the same thing they do now with the standard sobriety test (walk a line, fingers to nose etc). People can smoke the same amount of cannabis and present entirely different levels of intoxication that are completely irrelevant to body mass and therefor blood levels of THC; and the saliva tests are simply unreliable, 25% failure rate, with detection thresholds set very high to reduce the number of false positives. Plus the courts are basically ignoring them as evidence so maybe this is simply an appeasement in the report for the Cops. If a cop pulls you over and wants you to do one of these test FLAT out refuse! They are starting trials.

Personal production
  • A limit of four plants per residence
  • A maximum height limit of 100 cm on the plants
  • A prohibition on dangerous manufacturing processes
  • Reasonable security measures to prevent theft and youth access
  • Oversight and approval by local authorities
Just a bunch of ignorance there, to me the limit should be similar to personal Tobacco production (up to 15Kg a year per person). Of course thats a lot really, so maybe 5 Kg/year. With about a million ways to grow cannabis, the idea of being limited to any number of plants is retarded. What if I want to do a high density horizontal short grow or I just grow clones and never flower? Would a tray of 72 clones put me in jail for the same amount of time the current mandatory minimums are set to? (all those clones are considered full plants and would put me away for 6-9 months, even though none were over 3" high and none flowered). This is just effing stupid. Number of plants is irrelevant, harvested weight is relevant. And what the hell do they mean by Oversight and approval by local authorities? no way man!


Seed to sale tracking
  • Implement a seed-to-sale tracking system to
    prevent diversion and enable product recalls
The report seems to think that this is something the government can do, its not, the government can require it of a producer (i.e. the ability to track their produce) but S2S systems are commercial products that growers would have to invest in at significant expense. There needs to be a set of items each grow needs to track, but that shouldn't be a requirement for expensive hardware/software solutions. Not good for the little guy. Big producers already use seed to sale so, again, kinda clueless.

And of course anywhere they used the word "monopoly" or "control"

However, some organizations believed that a government
monopoly would be the best approach to control and
regulate the production of cannabis, noting that this
model was best placed for controlling use, preventing
diversion, minimizing advertising and helping to control
pricing.

Controlling cannabis prices by increasing or
decreasing the number of production licenses
issued or by imposing limits on the size of
facilities.​

On the whole the recommendations are not insane. Some are even encouraging, but these are only recommendations and what the Liberals actually end up doing is likely to be entirely different from the report. So not holding my breath. My bet is corporate monopoly cash grab all the way.
 
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WHATFG

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They are suggesting the barriers to growing....control, regulate, tax....they need to make it as unappealing and cumbersome to grow so that peeps just give up and by from.....wait for it....the government sanctioned LPs.....legalize my ass.
 
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