Testing Hans panel: 56watt Cree xp-e/ Lumiled rebel power==== Let's talk efficiency

IlovePlants

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Really great results at this point PSU! I wonder if anyone is going to rip his 4- blue, 27- 625nm, and 2 655nm combo... oh wait I know who's going to do that, ME! At least to an extent anyway, but I think I'm done trying to grow trees under all red and blue; I was thinking 4 2700k, 5 5000k, 20 625, and 4 660. Next month is going to be a doozy!

I feel like your CO2 experiment did indeed help those leaves reach for the sky! Time to break out the Ikea candles...
Loving this thread,
ILovePlants
 

Endur0xX

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lovely plants, only one problem though is if you are planning on flowering with this light you should have switch 12/12 30 days ago!! hehe I think that they will grow too big for your light!!

EDIT: oh I see they are autos
 

PSUAGRO.

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Really great results at this point PSU! I wonder if anyone is going to rip his 4- blue, 27- 625nm, and 2 655nm combo... oh wait I know who's going to do that, ME! At least to an extent anyway, but I think I'm done trying to grow trees under all red and blue; I was thinking 4 2700k, 5 5000k, 20 625, and 4 660. Next month is going to be a doozy!

I feel like your CO2 experiment did indeed help those leaves reach for the sky! Time to break out the Ikea candles...
Loving this thread,
ILovePlants
Yeah DIYer can easily replicate this panel......spread out the diodes(his ratio and add a couple of cool/warm white cree xpe) and make the panel larger(w remote dimmable driver)and a real aluminum heatsink would be an awesome stealth panel IMO..........thanks

lovely plants, only one problem though is if you are planning on flowering with this light you should have switch 12/12 30 days ago!! hehe I think that they will grow too big for your light!!

EDIT: oh I see they are autos
Ha ..............don't remind me............forcing these shitty auto's into flower sucks........gotta deal with it:P

I Expect To See BudSites When I Get Back Brother Psuagro.:clap:
me too............have a great and safe trip brother dawg.........

DAY 44...............#1003.jpg004.jpg.................and ...............#2005.jpg006.jpg..............just moving along.........................no problems yet

001.jpg002.jpg007.jpg.........56watt phase/ 12-12 on these bitchy "auto's" and may add more flower ferts.........be safe and happy growing
 

hyroot

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Getting big

Maybe throw up some mylar. Maybe that will help since you are running out of room.

Co2 does cause the leaves to point upwards. The stomatas open up more, in turn processes a lot more light. By that they point to the sky. Notice when they wake up, they do that. When they sleep they put out co2 and opposite when awake. So when they wake up they take a huge breath of co2 ....
 

PSUAGRO.

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Getting big

Maybe throw up some mylar. Maybe that will help since you are running out of room.

Co2 does cause the leaves to point upwards. The stomatas open up more, in turn processes a lot more light. By that they point to the sky. Notice when they wake up, they do that. When they sleep they put out co2 and opposite when awake. So when they wake up they take a huge breath of co2 ....
Yeah the walls are all painted with titanium white(behr ultra white) w a fungicide added.....granted the walls might be to far away to be effective...idk....gotta think of something soon........thanks


DAY 45..........well RIU doesn't seem to recognize/insert my computer's photos today!..........so no pics/shitty..........ill try later
 

Chirulazo

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Hey, i also have Hans Panels. I have 4 of them, and i was wanting to share my results so far. Im having one going on her 53th day of flowering... for me, it is looking just fine.

I'm adding some pics so you can see...

The Big one here, was on her 48th day of flowering for the pic, and the little one with the big bud, was on her day 42 of flowering.

I already had a plant done with these panels, it was a Critical Jack. I can say, Buds were really heavy. They weighted a lot more than what they looked, not that they looked fluffy at all, compact dense buds i can tell for sure (i have experience with 400W HPS, nothing this panels have to envy an HPS flower development)... but i was really surprised at their weight.

The ones i'm showing here, the strain is Galaxy, from Pyramid Seeds (Northern Lights X Afghani)...

The Big one is under a complete panel, 60W... the little one, sharing space with others under other panel.

Notice that i'm using Hans technique, putting many clones in same container. I have a 25 Lt container with 7 clones. I've read and heard, that is not a good thing to do, but you can judge for yourselves if the plants are suffering it hehe :)..... Hans told me he has been growing like that for more than 15 years and he has had no problems at all!

Well, jus wanted to share my experience with these to contribute to the topic... if you want, i can show results and weights in about 2 to 3 weeks.

Greetings friends :)
 

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Chirulazo

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Nice work there PSUAGRO! TRAIL BLAZING IT! :D i found a panel that uses a supposed Cree xpe LEDs....would this compare in price to yours? http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/502329365-45W-CREE-xpe-led-plant-grow-light-wholesalers.html
Hey man, that one looks like an EVO led rip off.... maybe it has the same leds and same wavelength, but for the shape and the distribution of the leds, it clearly looks like an EVO led panel from spain, which also used CREE XP-E leds... now using Oslon SSL80 leds, with Sinkpad super heat dissipation PCB. They are supposedly, the best of the best you can get now. But, i think Hans Panels, are also on that same level. Let´s hope so, but so far, i'm very pleased with what i'm seeing.

Heres a link to an EVO led panel so you can see... look the layout of the leds, it's the same...

http://www.google.cl/imgres?q=evo+led&um=1&hl=es&sa=N&biw=1280&bih=588&tbm=isch&tbnid=KMhhdbiLCIv4vM:&imgrefurl=http://www.lamarihuana.com/foro/cultivo-con-leds/93854-seguimiento-600w-led-china-vs-evoled.html&docid=RVLug1xRbmaY5M&imgurl=http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/6011/evo50.jpg&w=1600&h=608&ei=mtkDUM_RC-iH6QG84szJBg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=57&vpy=70&dur=665&hovh=138&hovw=364&tx=216&ty=97&sig=114462148217629578027&page=1&tbnh=60&tbnw=158&start=0&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:71

Good Smokes! :)
 

Chirulazo

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In fact, seeing specs, these panels you show, offer exactly same configuration as the old EVO led panel, 21 red 630nm and 9 Cool Whites 10000K... if they really that, then it should be a nice panel, since the EVO led panels have already shown really great results with that configuration
 

Chirulazo

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Thanks for that Chirulazo...i had never heard of the Evo....reading about it here...http://gudomeledgrow.com/blog/
O yes, the EVO series are top notch quite some time ago.....

I noticed another thing about the link you posted.... the pics of the panels over the plants... those are EVO leds!! that journal is from a grower called, "Mr. X".... he uses EVO leds.... that guy selling that panel is really making a total rip off of the EVO led, even publishing pictures of those panels growing weed..... woder what EVO manufacturers would think about it heheh.....
 

PetFlora

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Nice work there PSUAGRO! TRAIL BLAZING IT! :D i found a panel that uses a supposed Cree xpe LEDs....would this compare in price to yours? http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/502329365-45W-CREE-xpe-led-plant-grow-light-wholesalers.html
Nice find. I am a fan of rails. Seems unnecessary that they would include fans, or it should be, so maybe zero money spent on heat sinks. Alas, 2 are $400, which means pricing hasn't come down since I bought my UFO 90 ~3 years ago. But then,one of these will probably kick its' little round ass.
 

patrikantonius

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Awesome buds Chirulazo, congrats. You seem to be a great grower too :)
This comforts my idea that those panels are probably some of the best on the market right now. The cooling system seems a bit sketchy though. But if it works who's going to complain?
 

Chirulazo

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Nice find. I am a fan of rails. Seems unnecessary that they would include fans, or it should be, so maybe zero money spent on heat sinks. Alas, 2 are $400, which means pricing hasn't come down since I bought my UFO 90 ~3 years ago. But then,one of these will probably kick its' little round ass.
Hey man, those UFO panels have nothing to do comparing to these ones. All UFO panels, and almost every panel available out there, are made from almost same manufacturers in China, all using same components... almost all of them, with bridgelux or epistar leds... which have much lower efficiency compared to a CREE led, or an Osram led. Also, those leds are 3 times cheaper... that's whay those are the ones mostly used for panels seeking only profit, not performance. If you want extreme performance, no chinese panel will give you that, and you can go to any lantern forums and check what i'm telling here, they are the ones who know best about different types of leds performance, and for them, chinese leds, are just a waste of money, not that they are bad, just not as efficient as we want them to be. CREE, Osram, Seoul and Lumileds, are the only ones that are going to give you the EXTRA performance one is looking when switching to LED technology... all of the rest, will at the best, equal HPS technology, but will probably not outperform it.

http://www.bsled.com/

These are like the best chinese panels i think are available right now. This company is one of the oldest ones developing led technology in China, their panels also come with an 8W Cree led in the center of each module to give extra lumen output. Of course, they would have to be proven by someone to get real conclusions, but for me, if you are going for chinese panels, these ones are probably the very best chinese you could find, and also, directly with the manufacturer where you will get the best prices.

Awesome buds Chirulazo, congrats. You seem to be a great grower too :)
This comforts my idea that those panels are probably some of the best on the market right now. The cooling system seems a bit sketchy though. But if it works who's going to complain?
Thanks man, but in this case, most of the credit goes to Hans heheh... really, his panels are trully awsome, have no doubt they work, and that they work just fine, and most important, they work for flowering, which is always the main doubt about LED technology.
I've been puting more atention to this grow tho... trying to take it to the next level. All my previous grows were more "amateur" like. This time i tried to do things better to bring the most out of these panels and to see what they are made of. Seems that the hard work is paying off... but as i told you, big part of my results, i have to give credit to Hans, really, those panels are doing most of the work.

I have a concern... i read a post of someone saying that he was glad that at last he was seeing an unbiased grower using Hans panels... are there biased growers showing journals with Hans panels?? haven't seen those....
By the way, and for the record, i am totally unbiased, i live in a little country totally away from were everything is happening haha... you can take my opinions and experiences totally for real and as a personal experience only.

And the last thing i wanted to mention, soon i will be having my final results, and i was wondering, with PSU's permission, and if people are interested, if maybe i could post my progress here in order to contribute to the test. That way, all of the community could be getting 2 tests at the price of one! hehe and that way get a better idea of what we are talking about here :)

Cheers :)
 

PSUAGRO.

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Edit.....DAY #46 from germination............thanks amaximus on how to kind of upload the pics on to this site............took a couple quick shots in their dark period.......hermie time!!ha.....


@chronickool........yeah those are evo ripoffs---go for the real v4 starlight panels IMO/ I would stay away from any chinese "cree" panels.......the only chinese manufctr that I know has verified cree diodes is Eshine's cree aqua panels......give the bin # and are confirmed by the reef forums as legit......

@Chirulazo........Awesome job on your grow!/ nice to have another hans panel user to help me out..........post as much as you want in here(pics!).......and how high to you keep the panel above the canopy in flowering???Not a fan of his cooling system either or crowding the pot with plants but it seems to work well for both of you........really good results your getting my friend:)



DAY 46................Has anyone been able to post pics recently off of their computer????..........I got nada............everything is going smoothly........growth has been exceptional and flowering is moving along................sorry no pics again:(
 
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