The Lost Art of Foliar Feeding

spl1

spl1

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To every one wondering if I still foliage spray and it is yes. This is what I now use all the way through veg and 3 weeks into flower it worked the best both in the rez and in spraying, yes this in my spray machine I will post another pic of it today full off seakelp and protek on this run.
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roomtogrow

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humbolt honey does that not take time to breakdown in the soil like molasiss before its turned into nitrogen
just curious on what to use , ive always foliar fed tomatoes it only makes sense to feed your plants top to bottom
 
spl1

spl1

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roomtogrow said:
humbolt honey does that not take time to breakdown in the soil like molasiss before its turned into nitrogen
just curious on what to use , ive always foliar fed tomatoes it only makes sense to feed your plants top to bottom
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No it is quicker due to it being processed and bonded to an alcohol molecule that plant will uptake it much faster in a shorter time.
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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Must read regarding tips for foliar sprays - http://www.avocadosource.com/books/TraynorJoe1980/IDEAS_PG_85-91.pdf

Excellent thread on the use of urea as a foliar spray and soil drench (worth subscribing to) over here - http://riddlem3.com/index.php/topic,4707.msg83226.html#msg83226

I buy and spray Ferromec on a commercial basis to quickly green up 'stuff'. It's nothing more than a low biuret form of urea and iron.

Shot gun mixes of nutrient sprays should be avoided, the rifle approach is better. Discover what nutrient is the most limiting and concentrate on it. Beware of the many
foliar nutrient formulations on the market. Many of them carry a fancy price tag but are little, if any, better than the cheaper inorganic, non-proprietary materials.

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Tebin

Tebin

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I've read page after page in this thread and it's just people giving opinions,people arguing,and a whole lot of terrible spelling. First off it's called spell check,pretty sure it's standard on all computers(well maybe not Mac's). Second: If it's not related to the topic at hand,please don't bother to post it. Third: Where are the actual facts to back up that feeding through the leaves either works or does not? Grow journals are grate for that and I'm sure there are some medicinal growers here who could help us out by stating whether or not it's worth while. I personally have no opinion one way or the other as I have tried both and haven't seen any evidence to back either statement up.
I will say though that I have thoroughly enjoyed all the information regarding nutrient blends as it's something I've been needing help with.

Peace
 
Swiftowl11

Swiftowl11

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Yeah alot of post are making foliar feeding to complicated. Yes foliar feeding does work, and works very well in VEG STATE (MOTHER PLANT). All i use for foliar feeding is take my VEG nutes, throw a scoop in a spray bottle. In the am, when I wake up spray the shit out of my mothers. My mothers do love it and shows me in rapid growth. So I stick to foliar feeding, because I proved to myself it works. I run 24H light on mothers. Im in 5 gallon bubble buckets. Im able to take 12-20 cuttings from my mothers at a time.
 
HottFuzz

HottFuzz

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Tebin said:
I've read page after page in this thread and it's just people giving opinions,people arguing,and a whole lot of terrible spelling. First off it's called spell check,pretty sure it's standard on all computers(well maybe not Mac's). Second: If it's not related to the topic at hand,please don't bother to post it. Third: Where are the actual facts to back up that feeding through the leaves either works or does not? Grow journals are grate for that and I'm sure there are some medicinal growers here who could help us out by stating whether or not it's worth while. I personally have no opinion one way or the other as I have tried both and haven't seen any evidence to back either statement up.
I will say though that I have thoroughly enjoyed all the information regarding nutrient blends as it's something I've been needing help with.

Peace
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its kinda hypocritical that you spelled "great" (grate) wrong. shouldn't need spell check for that one genius!

Peace
 
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RickyLahey

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Uncle Ben said:
Call her up. She can back up all of her findings.

I'm not saying there is no value in using foliar sprays. Then again, I'm not saying there is value. I have been in this business too long. Often there is something flawed in their methods. You really have to dissect how they did their studies to come to a valid conclusion. For example, here is well done study: http://www.wynboer.co.za/recentarticles/200705miko.php3

Again, you need to ask her. She dispels many gardening myths based on her background. I don't know why she doesn't site a bibliography, guess she feels she doesn't have to. If put to the test, she can back up her positions.

At least one of the sites you linked us to is a seller of foliar products. That sux.

By pushing seaweed and foliar feeding, sounds like you have to me, reason why I posted "Variations in plant materials and environmental conditions are greater determinants of plant health than applications of seaweed extract."

....and for the record, here's a shot of ONE main cola of four at harvest since you seem quick to post anecdotal evidence. The other 3 were just as fat. This plant received no foliar sprays, no supplements, just plain ole well water, slow release high N fertilizer and some organics like bone and blood meal. No jeers please - if you've never grown pure sativa, then you will not understand why it doesn't look like some of your seedbank pimp ads. It has a much different structure than most mutts.


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yeah, and what he is saying is that could have possibly been much fatter if you sprayed the foilage dirty uncle ben...
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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RickyLahey said:
yeah, and what he is saying is that could have possibly been much fatter if you sprayed the foilage dirty uncle ben...
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Nope. Based on the nutrients received from the soil, it most likely would have resulted in moisture stress or leaf burn resulting in lower production. Get a handle on the macro world of plant nutrition.
 
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Afka

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Ben buddy, you know that's straight wrong.

Unless you were stupid and fucked it up on purpose to live in your world of self-fulfilling prophecies...

Foliar feeding will account for any soil borne deficiency and provide an increase in metabolic activity depending on which products were used. Unless you're incorrectly preparing your solution or incorrectly applying it, I strongly doubt you'll cause moisture stress or leaf burn.
 
PeyoteReligion

PeyoteReligion

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Uncle Ben, that huge nug looks disgusting. No visable resin production...very airy looking buds with no substance. Looks like big ditch weed man. Maybe you should foliar feed. Or get new genetics. All I'm saying is that big ass nug is really NOT impressive. it doesn't pass the eye test. You old timey cats get stuck in your old timey ways, and don't move forward. That cannabis plant isn't looking impressive enough for me to want to take your advice. Maybe if you had shown better product, we may be more inclined to follow your advice. But the pic the OP showed of his drying buds had a very clear resin all over the buds. I don't see any on yours...
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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Afka said:
Ben buddy, you know that's straight wrong.

Unless you were stupid and fucked it up on purpose to live in your world of self-fulfilling prophecies...

Foliar feeding will account for any soil borne deficiency and provide an increase in metabolic activity depending on which products were used. Unless you're incorrectly preparing your solution or incorrectly applying it, I strongly doubt you'll cause moisture stress or leaf burn.
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Look shit-fer-brains, if the plant is getting proper nutrition via the roots, which 99% of properly grown plants do, any more elements above and beyond that saturation point can induce problems, one of them being moisture stress, and a strong possibility for leaf burn, especially if the salts applied are not low biuret. I guarantee you that if you mix 2 tsps. of say....Jack's Classic 20-20-20 to a gallon of water and apply it to an otherwise healthy and vigorous plant, you will induce leaf cupping, margin burn, etc.

See my sig link. It's all in The Balance. You keep throwing shit at them and see what sticks and what crumbles.

As an aside, there is no "art" to this. It's just another Troll-it-Up brain fART parroted by a bunch of noobs who have limited experience with botany, if any at all.
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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PeyoteReligion said:
Uncle Ben, that huge nug looks disgusting. No visable resin production...very airy looking buds with no substance. Looks like big ditch weed man. Maybe you should foliar feed. Or get new genetics. All I'm saying is that big ass nug is really NOT impressive. it doesn't pass the eye test. You old timey cats get stuck in your old timey ways, and don't move forward. That cannabis plant isn't looking impressive enough for me to want to take your advice. Maybe if you had shown better product, we may be more inclined to follow your advice. But the pic the OP showed of his drying buds had a very clear resin all over the buds. I don't see any on yours...
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Look shit-fer-brains #2, I said in the previous post:
No jeers please - if you've never grown pure sativa, then you will not understand why it doesn't look like some of your seedbank pimp ads. It has a much different structure than most mutts.
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"frosty man, it's frosty!" I see the industry has you brainwashed well. Here's a close up of that "nug" for fools like you that get sucked into visuals rather than real world substance.

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Also, that is not a "nug". That is called a Cola, one of 4. A Cola is a collection of "nugs", of flowering sites.

Enjoy your mutts.....
 
budman111

budman111

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like i said in a previous post...foliar a good seaweed in grow daily and harpin protein every 2 weeks of the plants life...rest is a wast of money (and nutrients!) and like UB said- foliar feed root nutrients designed for this purpose will probably cause leaf cupping to a newer grower.
 
MikeHancho85

MikeHancho85

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DankShasta said:
fuck foliar feeding for indicas, it raises the humidity too high, and it is inefficient when it doesn't fuck your humidity. On top of that you aren't really duplicating a natural process, not in FEEDING them. Some water? Sure, but plants in nature are not getting their N-P-Ks through any foliar process, at least nothing measurable. I do spray my buds with some water here and there, especially at the end of flowering, but just Phed tap water. This is a bunch of mumbo jumbo, and a waste of time/nutes, in my opinion.
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you're an idiot
 
connoisseurde420

connoisseurde420

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if you dont know plant biology pick up teaming with microbes. Those of you who can make their way thru it will understand this subject much better! Foliar feeding works in all plants with stomata and leaves! As to what mixes and etc works best on your stain/situations will take expereince BUT I use botanicare liquid karma, flower/grow, aquashield, casting teas, and plain water ph 6-6.5 depending on plant stages and have had very few problems. I spray until buds form in flowering and stop after that and spraying is better utilized by the plant when it is metabolizing ie. lights are on. So spraying when the lights are off is not very effective. I try to spray before or as lights come on and always use something to make spray stick to plants ie biodegradable soap or yucca etc. :) some real info for those in need
 
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