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dagwood45431

dagwood45431

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Fogdog said:
The emotion you get from my message was your own. You are the one who said:

"The folks getting the attention are the folks at the far ends of the bell curve (small population) and the rest is ignored. Yet, they are the lionshare and reap the most benefit and feel the most pain."

So, "reap the most benefit" isn't an economic benefit? The middle of "the bell curve" is not middle wealth or income? What is it then? Because as explained in my earlier message, I don't see the group of middle income Americans getting the least attention. Did my disagreement with the idea that "the masses are ignored" while a vocal minority reaped the "lion's share" of benefits, puncture a sensitive white man's sense of entitlement?
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Debating these imbeciles is like trying to nail jell-O to the wall.
 
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fdd2blk

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Fogdog said:
A lot of media these days are sensationalism and stories to draw viewers. Good media outlets publish factual stories meaning not Fox or Breitbart but even then, the sensational gets the play time. Agree on this. I don't think its an accident that national public broadcasting, which is about as even handed, factual and pertinent in its coverage as any outlet is under the axe in the recent budget proposal. I know people who only listen to NPR and others who can't stand it. Many nowadays get their news from social media channels which guides news selections according to previously viewed stories, which to me seems counter to the need for broad exposure to current events. A lot of middle America is awash in right wing radio, which I can't abide because its a lie a minute festival when people like Rush get going.

There are a lot of sources and wide range of choice available. People have their own means of selecting from these sources. When I hear somebody complain about "the media" what I think is they would restrict other people's choices in the news. For myself, I want to hear about the goings on in the nation and locally, even if some of that contains coverage of issues I dislike, such as the Pro-Trump rallies that were a big part of last year's media circus. It turned out that those rallies were significant and the people attending them were a revelation of his base.

I don't see poor people as being over-represented in media, is @visajoe1 's concern the protest marches in Ferguson or Houston after police shot and killed unarmed black men? If that's what he means by "the nonsense on the far ends when we could be focusing on the majority", I think he's missing the point of the news and reporting current events. He can turn to the recipes on page five and not read those stories if he wants but they are pertinent and important events that I would think "the majority" would want to know about.
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Holy wall of text, meth smoker!!!! Go for a walk or something.
 
visajoe1

visajoe1

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Below is screen shots of abc, nbc, cbs, cnn, and fox politics pages from right now. most of info on all pages seems to entertain ideas and themes on the far ends, repeated over and over with various spins. wiretapping, russia, healthcare "collapse", and other conjecture. all of these topics have been driven into the ground the last few months, yet here we are, groundhog day with the news. they all suck IMO

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Fogdog

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visajoe1 said:
Below is screen shots of abc, nbc, cbs, cnn, and fox politics pages from right now. most of info on all pages seems to entertain ideas and themes on the far ends, repeated over and over with various spins. wiretapping, russia, healthcare "collapse", and other conjecture. all of these topics have been driven into the ground the last few months, yet here we are, groundhog day with the news. they all suck IMO

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They may all suck in your opinion. But they don't actually validate your premise that folks on the fringes get all the news. Healthcare and what Trump is trying to get passed through congress affects anybody who still has a body temperature near 98.6 F, also dismantling medicaid and leaving the elderly poor who depend on it at risk of losing coverage is pretty vital news to anybody with a parent or who is elderly. Trump interrupting his work to go golfing, I find infuriating and won't read the story but want to know about it.

I don't think your series of screenshots proved anything other than there is a varied set of offerings. Read them or don't. Who are you to gripe about the offerings?

What's missing that I should know about? What's there that is fake? That's worth talking about.

I mean, you keep telling me Trump's presidency is failing because Obama and Hillary. That's not in your wall of screenshots but then again, it's not true.
 
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visajoe1

visajoe1

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dagwood45431 said:
Nope, just slips through the nail and down onto the floor.

You do not trust the news, I get it. So the fuck what?
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angry are we? at no point have i discussed trust and the news, that was never the topic. my point is what they choose to discuss and put effort into is often times recycled headlines flavored with their particular "brand" (i.e. abc,cbs,cnn lean left and fox leans right).

if these news organizations were remotely objective, the interpretations of things might not be so polar opposite.

there is two sides to every story. all parents and managers have experienced this. the truth, however, is usually in the middle somewhere
 
dagwood45431

dagwood45431

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visajoe1 said:
angry are we? at no point have i discussed trust and the news, that was never the topic. my point is what they choose to discuss and put effort into is often times recycled headlines flavored with their particular "brand" (i.e. abc,cbs,cnn lean left and fox leans right).

if these news organizations were remotely objective, the interpretations of things might not be so polar opposite.

there is two sides to every story. all parents and managers have experienced this. the truth, however, is usually in the middle somewhere
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Bzzzzzzzzt! Rarely are there two equally truthful and substantive sides to any story. Feel free to give some recent examples, however.
 
dagwood45431

dagwood45431

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visajoe1 said:
equally? substantive? anything else you'd like to add to my statement that i didnt say?
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visajoe1 said:
equally? substantive? anything else you'd like to add to my statement that i didnt say?
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"if these news organizations were remotely objective, the interpretations of things might not be so polar opposite." -- you

Now, smack yourself on the forehead and say, "Oh...yeah...".
 
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fdd2blk

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Fogdog said:
I snorted some meth a very long time ago. Didn't like the high. Maybe it's because I'm already amped up. I prefer weed. This is the way I am. If you don't like it, put me on ignore or talk to the mods about banning me for offending you. Which, given how thin skinned you are is easy.
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I'm not a whiny bitch like the rest of you. I find it more amusing to get a rise out of you instead.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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visajoe1 said:
angry are we? at no point have i discussed trust and the news, that was never the topic. my point is what they choose to discuss and put effort into is often times recycled headlines flavored with their particular "brand" (i.e. abc,cbs,cnn lean left and fox leans right).

if these news organizations were remotely objective, the interpretations of things might not be so polar opposite.

there is two sides to every story. all parents and managers have experienced this. the truth, however, is usually in the middle somewhere
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The truth is always the truth. There are no left or right politics when it comes to facts. What the Trump-right want to do is invent facts, otherwise known as lie. Just like denial of fossil fuels causing climate change. They make the truth out to be a liberal lie and try to insert their own story. Like Trump claiming he was wire tapped on Obama's orders. Or the size of the crowd at his 2017 inauguration speech was larger than Obama's. Or his margin of victory was historic. I dare you claim any of those are true. The facts are otherwise. But I'm guessing you won't be able to hold yourself back.

When it comes to people, memory, feelings, life experiences, there are more sides to belief than there are people. What we've stopped doing is agree that there can be only one set of facts. Decisions about what to do can vary and change but there can only be one set of facts.
 
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