Tired of hearing.... What can you do for me as a Caregiver!

Murfy

Well-Known Member
this is where the disp owner's come in-

if the disp would sell for a decent price, patients (especially the ones just getting high) would have easy access to smoke all the time. part of the problem is alot of these people are new to the selling end of the drug culture. before medical i always had to BUY the weed, then make what i could in a very competitive market. that makes me happy today because the money is all ours.

now. if we could keep the disp owners in check that AND get them legal(definitively), it would serve a multitude of things.
#1. help the economy. think of all the money people would save if top shelf were 200 an ounce. everyone involved in buying would immediately have more money in their pocket. they also would be able to have diversity outside of their collective/caregiver.

#2. create jobs. ALL the people it would take to run legal disp's. growers, buyers, retail workers, tax people, cpa's, cna's, carpenters, electricians, the list would be endless. there really is an industry to be setup here. the gov wants to call the shots on this badly.

#3. create a legal outlet for overages at a reasonable profit to the grower. imagine a grow that produces 5 pounds per 21 day perpetual period. that would be around 17 cycles a year. 17 X 5 = 85 lbs.. if you sold (as a grower) at 100 an ounce, that would be 136,000 dollars a year. set it up to pay 35% tax like any other sole proprietor, and you've got it made. and the disp sells at 200. everyone makes killing.

#4. patients( by patient i mean someone who is sick. keeping in mind there are all types of illnesses, diagnosed AND undiagnosed,and they affect people very differently) would be able to get their meds for free. imagine making 85 K a year(which most haven't) and then giving an ounce or two a week to a guy with cancer. for me the choice would be easy. makin good money and doin good. if we all thought like this folks would be gettin medicine like crazy. wanna find out if it works. learn how to grow 10 pounds then give one away (in the form of oil) to a cancer victim.:) with all the money you're making you won't even miss it. and people will say you are great. what a great guy. the whole time making good money.

#5 the feds. if billions in tax revenue, made from the curing of what is left of the greatest generation even makes it to the supreme court, we're winners all day. 63% of michiganders use cannabis? imagine. all them crazy hillbillies with guns. winners there too.

i provide medicine to my registered patients for free. i also provide meds to my unregistered patients for free. sometimes it's as simple as meeting a sick person and giving them a bag right there(if they're legal, of course). i make simpson oil and give it for free. when i wax up our oil the disp's will pay close to 100 a gram. prolly some limping old guy buying from them for well over a hundred. not on my watch! i would give that oil for free to a sick person before i would ever knowingly let it happen.

then i provide meds to other unregistered patients for a small donation. mostly these are the people with their cards, but not a debilitating condition. they can still work, fuck, etc.. 98% of the time this runs about 150-160 an ounce. my top of the line.

i do not deal with disp's;
#1 because they just take my meds and mark them to 20 a gram.
#2 because i cannot sell to them for 250/ounce knowing they will be raping sick people.

this type of setup works well although i'm sure it skirts the edge. if we could navigate towards this i believe it would benefit us here in michigan greatly. think of what it would do for tourism( i knew there was a reason for the reciprocity section of the law. meaning out of state cards are good here!!!!!!!!!!!!!)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

working together on this is key. maybe what we need are some of the actual drug dealers to step up and help things along. they do have experience! and they're game was a ton better than what's going on now. every disp owner i know just got a new car, and bought another repo for a grow house.

on the backs of the sick and poor.
 

stumpjumper

Well-Known Member
this is where the disp owner's come in-

if the disp would sell for a decent price, patients (especially the ones just getting high) would have easy access to smoke all the time. part of the problem is alot of these people are new to the selling end of the drug culture. before medical i always had to BUY the weed, then make what i could in a very competitive market. that makes me happy today because the money is all ours.

now. if we could keep the disp owners in check that AND get them legal(definitively), it would serve a multitude of things.
#1. help the economy. think of all the money people would save if top shelf were 200 an ounce. everyone involved in buying would immediately have more money in their pocket. they also would be able to have diversity outside of their collective/caregiver.

#2. create jobs. ALL the people it would take to run legal disp's. growers, buyers, retail workers, tax people, cpa's, cna's, carpenters, electricians, the list would be endless. there really is an industry to be setup here. the gov wants to call the shots on this badly.

#3. create a legal outlet for overages at a reasonable profit to the grower. imagine a grow that produces 5 pounds per 21 day perpetual period. that would be around 17 cycles a year. 17 X 5 = 85 lbs.. if you sold (as a grower) at 100 an ounce, that would be 136,000 dollars a year. set it up to pay 35% tax like any other sole proprietor, and you've got it made. and the disp sells at 200. everyone makes killing.

#4. patients( by patient i mean someone who is sick. keeping in mind there are all types of illnesses, diagnosed AND undiagnosed,and they affect people very differently) would be able to get their meds for free. imagine making 85 K a year(which most haven't) and then giving an ounce or two a week to a guy with cancer. for me the choice would be easy. makin good money and doin good. if we all thought like this folks would be gettin medicine like crazy. wanna find out if it works. learn how to grow 10 pounds then give one away (in the form of oil) to a cancer victim.:) with all the money you're making you won't even miss it. and people will say you are great. what a great guy. the whole time making good money.

#5 the feds. if billions in tax revenue, made from the curing of what is left of the greatest generation even makes it to the supreme court, we're winners all day. 63% of michiganders use cannabis? imagine. all them crazy hillbillies with guns. winners there too.

i provide medicine to my registered patients for free. i also provide meds to my unregistered patients for free. sometimes it's as simple as meeting a sick person and giving them a bag right there(if they're legal, of course). i make simpson oil and give it for free. when i wax up our oil the disp's will pay close to 100 a gram. prolly some limping old guy buying from them for well over a hundred. not on my watch! i would give that oil for free to a sick person before i would ever knowingly let it happen.

then i provide meds to other unregistered patients for a small donation. mostly these are the people with their cards, but not a debilitating condition. they can still work, fuck, etc.. 98% of the time this runs about 150-160 an ounce. my top of the line.

i do not deal with disp's;
#1 because they just take my meds and mark them to 20 a gram.
#2 because i cannot sell to them for 250/ounce knowing they will be raping sick people.

this type of setup works well although i'm sure it skirts the edge. if we could navigate towards this i believe it would benefit us here in michigan greatly. think of what it would do for tourism( i knew there was a reason for the reciprocity section of the law. meaning out of state cards are good here!!!!!!!!!!!!!)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

working together on this is key. maybe what we need are some of the actual drug dealers to step up and help things along. they do have experience! and they're game was a ton better than what's going on now. every disp owner i know just got a new car, and bought another repo for a grow house.

on the backs of the sick and poor.
I back this system 110%... Too bad it's a pipe dream. The feds will never let that happen and probably not the state either. Fuck it would be nice though.
 

youngdog

Active Member
Disp. wanna buy for 150-250 then sell for 420-560 almost tripling their money. I understand taxes and all that but if they lowered prices they could move more product and taxes wouldnt be an issue. We take on all the expenses of growing and they reap all the rewards.
 

Murfy

Well-Known Member
if everyone followed the model i just gave-

current disp's would be DOA. new ones, with good intentions and business practices would fill the void.

i will teach anyone to grow great herb. just ask.
 
for every action in your model murfy, there is a black market dealer that will object and who will be put out of business and clog the unemployment lines and become a weight that we have to bear and raise our taxes just to support them.
 

stumpjumper

Well-Known Member
for every action in your model murfy, there is a black market dealer that will object and who will be put out of business and clog the unemployment lines and become a weight that we have to bear and raise our taxes just to support them.
Or he could get with the program..... How the hell is a black market dealer going to get unemployment? You didn't think that one through to well there, Watson.. :P
 

Murfy

Well-Known Member
that's right-
as long as he's not a felon, he can be a caregiver for 5 patients.
get the felony expunged.
 

hic

Well-Known Member
So what is up metropolis are you going to take my advise and learn how to grow before you try to grow? or are you going to continue to struggle because you never learnt about the plant you were growing?
 

Metropolis

Member
Perhaps you are meerly growing them wrong metropolis?

That statement seemed like you were attacking me and my ability to grow.

My problem only concerned patient and caregiver relationships.
 

stumpjumper

Well-Known Member
MI Legislature is voting on ammending the law... One of the ammendments is that only 10 facilities in MI will be allowed to grow.. No patient to patient transfers all kinds of bullshit..
 

abudtokr

Active Member
Honestly, every one wants free stuff and I got to buy more equipment to produce more quality meds, I'll be looking for patients that will invest time and money into the operation. Other than that, there is not benefit in having more patients.

I was broke as hell last week, and I discovered spider mites!



Neither of my patients had money to help me out but their hands were out when I told them I harvested early.

Not to Mention, the hours and hours of TRIMMING! Would it be wrong to just give them branches fresh out the pot?

Fucking DTE running this "ACTUAL READING BULLCRAP" $800 for 3 months, & I have already been paying $278 a month.

The next patient that ask me what can I do for them?.... The answer is I can charge you to come to your house and Set up your 12 plants, and I'll come by every other day to check on them & even teach you how to care for them yourself, unless you are handicap or disabled then I can make an exception.

Your grow will be as good as your initial investment, if you can only afford 400's you'll have a 400 crop, I bought my own lights, fans, bubblers, nutrients, soil, etc. You paid a certification fee to be my patient and now you looking for free meds, and after your Oz a month, I don't hear from you....

& the authorities make it hard to hook up with other caregivers, or patients to make some donations to keep our operations up to "PAR"
The Dispensary can kiss my arse, $200 & I gotta wait until after you sell it!

Hey I would love to change and help out... But this means I get half of my 12 plants then. I guess I will help you out with the math...... You got 12 of my plants, now lets say you grow all 12 and you get 2.5 oz off each plant it takes you 3.5 months..... Now you wanna sell it for lets say $300 each oz. 300x2.5=750 of each plant. 750x12=$9000. Now you wanna count the cost of shit added in.... You have to buy your lights ONE time so get some good ones.... Lets say you get a 1000 watt mh and hps $800 dollars for the both of them. Get some dirt, nutes, and pots, seeds. lets say 1000 dollars. Im going high on this so you get my point. OH dont forget your 800 dollar electric bill...... Thats a profit of 6400 dollars.... I work my ass off every day to make 500 bucks a week. All you have to do is sit home and smoke. Your acting like you dont have fun doing it, you want to pray off the sick to fatten your pockets and thats not that this program was destined to do. I love growing marijuana its fun you get to learn get high. Anyway you will make over 26,000 a year for sitting home. While other people have to do real work for a living! Not sit home and grow marijuana and bitch about a power bill.... You should have your card pulled and fined! Your acting like a drug dealer.... Thats another thing you forgot people did this shit way b4 it was legal and no one bitched about the small shit. Its called over head. It cost money to make money. IF you wouldn't smoke your profit then you might have money. SO QUIT CRYING! Your a grown adult you look foolisth with your lip sticking out like that!
 

hic

Well-Known Member
Uh Oh sound like rzza has been dipping into too much of that qwerkle again.

panhead -:bigjoint:
 

panhead

Well-Known Member
Jesus,i see all these prices floating round where people think $200 an ounce is a great price,wtf.

We charge $175 for absolute top shelf 10 week strains,then from $150 for 8 week strains down to $125 on the faster 6 week strains & these prices are for non contract patients,contract patients pay less,if i were able to get the city council to allow me to put our freshly built greenhouse into operation we would lower prices even further,as long as were forced to pay for 16,000 watts indoors prices cant come down.

I cant see $200 an ounce being a great price unless its a 12-16 week sativa/landrace strain with low yeilds.
 

hic

Well-Known Member
I hear ya panhead if they would let me do what I can and what I want to do prices would fall drastically due to a quanity of quality ordeal. Not just because of me but what everyone COULD do that likes to grow.
 
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