Too Traumatized!?!

DoeEyed

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My goodness, those are some serious Sativas you have there - probably the thinnest leaves I've sen yet! They are gonna take you awhile to finish.
 

recgrwr

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I'm a newb but if you want them to grow / stretch shouldnt you move them a little away from the light? i would get someone to confirm this before i followed my advice
 

Joker209

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The original owner finally told me what they were last night.. However I don't remember, & the munchkin I'm watching today took my phone captive!
Watering I do believe is as controlled as it can be for now.. I can't give them more, less often because they don't like it & less, more often they don't like either. So I'm staying where I'm at with that. I'm guessing the move & change of atmosphere-air, humidity, & more lights will probably change things up. So when all that change happens, I'll see where things are at & go from there! Poor Plants! Man I picked a crappy time to move :/ haha
I did decide to hold off on nutes for a while too, these babies need to get the hang of things before I throw more stuff at them! Plus I figure additional lights should help enough for a now!
Anyway, those are some pics I took yesterday. The tiny pin points at the top have grown out a little since then, so YAY! for continual new growth :)
Btw, I'm a total dork & named my babies... The little one is Josie, & the bigger one is Delilah...
Naming Marijuana plants is not uncommon. Most people name their plants. I have a few that I have chosen to be mommas and I have named them. I have Tabatha (named after a momma cat I had that died) and a few others. I have Midget, Mutie, Mittens, Lst, and I still have to name my other mommas. Names come to me as they get older haha. I lost 1 of my clones while I was gone but the other has new growth so I think it will be a success. I lost 1 because the heats got too high but I'm not gonna fill your thread with all that shit haha I'll post that on my thread probably later or tomorrow... If I remember...
 

minibotwin

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Lol.. I don't care how much you post in my thread deary! But I'll def watch for your new thread :) & Good, now I don't feel like such a tard for naming them, haha!!

So it's not bad that the leaves are so thin?? I was seriously really concerned! I just figured it was yet another thing I was doing wrong.. I feel comforted now :)

And recgrwr.. As for right now, I don't want them stretching any more than necessary. They are growing tho, don't worry ;) I already had to put a prop in there to help them stay up. I've got fans to help them get a little stronger. And honestly they really arent' THAT close, they're pretty much at the "correct" distance. They need to soak up as much rays as possible.. I'm in the process of moving, and was going to build a new mini-grow room. But I feel they're still just a little too small & I want to keep the changes as minimal as possible, so for now they're staying in they're little incubator! They'll be getting more lights soon.. And I'm guessing within the next couple weeks they'll be ready for the new room. We'll see!

There is still some browning & curling under on the bottom leaves, almost starting to wonder if it's lack of light(??).. Not really sure.. When I get them over to the new place I'll check all the levels again, post picks, & update to help for advice!!

& Thanks again for following & commenting everyone!! :)
 

Joker209

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I will try to get some pictures today. No stretching at this stage or they will stretch the rest of their life and it will make it hard for you to be able to work with during flower. I stretch mine just a little in the flower room but I do it to get proper light to the lower buds. The thin leafs just means it's heavy sativa. If it were heavy indica it would be short fat and have fat leafs.. I will look for a few sativa / indica pictures for you to compare.
These are the way they grow outdoor and the differences.
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This is the leafs of the 2 side by side.
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Almost forgot these 2 pictures my bad.
These 2 are both Sativa. From what I read they had done studies to get that first picture to only 2% Indica and 98% Sativa... Not sure if this is true (it is the internet after all) but there you go
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This is a hybrid (mix of both Indica and Sativa.
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This is how yours should look when it is flowering...
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If you were to ask me to choose between the 2 for personal preference I would probably choose the Sativa because of the light penetration, air circulation, larger buds a lot of the time, and they are easier to care for a lot of the time. Don't get me wrong though there are a lot of Indicas that are easy to care for and give large buds but my favorite by far is the Sativa strains. Whenever I get seeds and find most of them are hybrid or 70/30 I hope for the 70% to be Sativa haha
 

minibotwin

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Yeah, I'm definitely trying to stay away from stretching! I already have to have them tied up.. & Sweet, thanks for that info, always helps to know the most you can about what you're workin with ;) & dude, I would *LOVE* if these babies ended up lookin like that, haha! They've got such a long ways to go tho!!
The move went amazinglysmooth!! They actually grew a TON over the weekend! I was really surprised!
Josie has a couple spots that I'm a little concerned about..
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Delilah is looking pretty good tho!! :)
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Is the smaller bottom leaves normal?? I've seen a lot of plants that do have them, yet most don't!?
 

Joker209

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Is the smaller bottom leaves normal? Yes it is due to light penetration. How tall are they now and I forget what kinda lighting are you using? If you have a chance to throw a few Cfls in there you won't be disappointed. The more light you have in there the bigger stronger and faster they will grow and you can trust me on this. lol Good to see you back. I'm gonna take a look at the pics and get back here and edit :D

Looks like bugs may have gotten to a couple of your leaves. I took those pictures of some of my clones. I told you I would post them as soon as I took them then never came back so here they are lol. This 1 looks like a pepper plant... WTF?! Lol Here it is..
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minibotwin

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haha.. Yeah it's been a few days! I'm so addicited to this site, I swear I was going thru withdrawals the whole 4 days I was w/o internet! lol..
I figured the smaller leaves was due to light.. I put mylar down underneat the pots hoping that'll help reflect the light back up some! Lights are sadly going to have to wait until next Tuesday. I *LOVE* my new place, but I swear sometimes it's going to be the death of me!-or at least financial death! haha.. Ok, maybe not that bad.. I'm rambling.
Anyway, so Tuesday there will be more lights & probably the whole new grow room! YAY!! haha..
& I know the leaves look like bugs, but.. I'm just not convinced that's what it is. To be honest I think the leaf that looks the worst is my fault, from the twisty-tie thingy I put around the stem to help hold them up. I found the leave resting on it weird right where the original tiny dot was. But the other tiny spot, it's stayed just that spot. It was there when the leaf was just teeeeny tiny & obviously has affected the growth of that leaf since it's bent & all weird. Idk.. I've kept my eye on it to make sure nothing gets worse.

& that's your clone!?! Omg it does look like a little off ;) You sure you've got the right plant!? haha jk!!
 

Joker209

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Yea I am sure it's a pepper I mean MJ plant :P Yea it has the sets of 5 - 9 point leafs on the bottom lol. She also has hairs from where the mother plant started to flower :D I will take some pictures for you to drool over later. I'm going to be starting some cuttings in my DIY 35 site aerocloner. I might throw together a DIY on what I did and how I did it and why I did it. It's the basic design with a few tweeks and upgrades.
 

minibotwin

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Huh, I swore I posted something.. about your DIY stuff!? Hmm.. Who knows!
Anyway, so back to having some problems again :( LOTS of droopiness!! Josie is showing some in the middle, but Delilah is just droopy all over.
Shouldn't be water problems as they've been on the same watering schedule for a while now & haven't problems until 2 days ago. There has been some stretching & widening of the leaves, but of course lack of lighting is cause for that.. NEW LIGHTS TOMORROW!!! YAY!!! Then they'll also be coming out of their incubator & into their new room :) Which I'm hoping will help with better air flow.-which isn't BAD now, just could be a little better as far as I'm concerned.

Any added ideas about the droop that's going on!?

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(Please also keep in mind, lighting does look off in pictures, as things had to be moved for pictures. & the mylar got messed up during the move, so foil is just what i went with until they go in the new room!-better than nothin!)
 

minibotwin

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P.S. Delilah for sure, & I think Josie also.. Has only been puttin out 3 point leaves the last couple sprouts..????
 

minibotwin

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looks like your overwatering them
Wow, didn't even realize you posted that till now! That was one of my guesses... But I haven't really changed that in the last couple weeks. I do usually make sure the soil is dry all the way thru before watering again. I did hold off on watering watering them today tho, figuring it was worth a shot to see if it'd help!
 

DoeEyed

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You get 'em figured out? Honestly they look thristy to me, underwatering will cause drooping too, only it makes them look limp and kinda lifeless, whereas overwatering they look more, I don't know, kind of rubbery. I don't know if that makes sense.
 

minibotwin

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You get 'em figured out? Honestly they look thristy to me, underwatering will cause drooping too, only it makes them look limp and kinda lifeless, whereas overwatering they look more, I don't know, kind of rubbery. I don't know if that makes sense.
Yeah that makes sense!! That's what I was sort of trying to figure out.. Even tho I haven't changed the watering schedule in weeks, & I didn't want to believe it was watering problems (I'm starting to *hate* this whole watering thing!!!), I figured it was either over or under. Today they are looking a tiny bit better. I went ahead and watered them, since the soil was completely dry.-has been since yesterday.
It's just odd, Delilah is a little more pale, kind of the yellowish green, even starting to get aaalmost brownish spots, but I think that may have been from the misting, as they have never been present until today (the day after minor misting). She's also a little dryer looking thru the leaves, and the one who's a little more droopy. Josie on the other hand, is a darker green and not quite rubbery-ish, but way more so than what Delilah is! That's why I couldn't tell if it was over or under, or even a watering problem at all!
I'll check on them later today to see if the watering helped or harmed the situation.-Hoping it gives me some sort of clue anyway! And I'll keep you guys posted!
Anyone who has any other thoughts or ideas, please feel free to share! Thanks :)
 

DoeEyed

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Well, keep in mind as they grow, bigger plants have bigger root systems and require more water. Some like more at one time and a longer interval between, and some like a little less and more frequent waterings. They are all individuals - like little green children. lol It varies from strain to strain, and even to individual plants! So - you kinda have to adjust your schedule to what they want - there is never a set way to do it, which is why no one can really tell you "give them X amount every Y days." The best way is to water them well, and learn the signs of what they do, just before they droop - and water them at that time.
 

Joker209

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How often are you watering? If you aren't letting the soil dry til it starts to pull away from the edges of the pot then you may be over watering. If you are forgetting to water from time to time then you may be underwatering. Make notes of when you water so you can keep a schedule as they grow. The pot size makes a big difference too.
 

minibotwin

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I love my life :).. Haha.. I'm sitting here in my living room on riu, while there are 2 electiricians working on my lighting, approximately 3ft away from my babies.. And nobody has any clue!
 

minibotwin

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YAY!! HOORAY!! New room is ghetto built for now ;) I'll post pics tomorrow so you can see just how ghetto!
I ran out of time & real supplies to get the good version completed. But heck, I may just stick with this for now, looks pretty swell for what I used! haha..
My babies are lookin better! I tried nutes, but they're gettin nute burn already.-& that's at like not even a full dose of 1/4 strength! Sooo.. Back to just plain water for us! Unless anyone else has any better suggestions!?
I do need to figure out a way to keep it a little cooler in there tho.. & definitely another fan!! The extra light added some extra heat, that I brilliantly didn't think about!!
 
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