Topping to early?

bird mcbride

bird mcbride

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Well, if you do it my way one plant turns into two plants and if you get carried away like I do next thing you got 50-60 plants...but they are all from the same seed. I wouldn't rely on the two lower branches, I've noticed they never do so well unless they are in exceptional conditions.
 
RIKNSTEIN

RIKNSTEIN

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hydrocropper420 said:
a clone is still a plant, youre just looking for the very top site, when you fim or top the center section off, the the little leafy nodes on the side will start to shoot up and a week or 2 those 2 tops can be topped like the first one, this will create a growth height stunt for a week and concentrate on the lower sites, but will also make you get 4 nice tops rapidly shooting up, also many others when you do it early, every strain is different, some dont like to be topped, others take well and get huge, i do it on the 4th or 5th node and heres my ladies at 42 days from seed,northern lights on the left and white widow on the right, if you look you can see all the many tops from topping once and supercropping, 16 per plant, my plants are less than a foot tall but look how bushy, just about to go into flower, also check out ''grow420guide'' on youtube, excellent tutorials and takes you through the fimming and topping techniques perfectly, also supercropping!!!!View attachment 2531306View attachment 2531307View attachment 2531310View attachment 2531311View attachment 2531312
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That's a gorgeous grow you got there dude...
 
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LordRalh3

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Feel free to chop all the unnecessary nodes you want but there is no reason other than cloning to take anything but the very top, and it doesn't matter if you cut at the 2nd 3rd or 7th you will get 2 tops from wherever you chopped. To get more you have to top it or fim it again, and fimming has nothing to do with popcorn buds, it ALL about light penitration.
 
kagecog

kagecog

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What your gonna need to do is wait until the plant has around 5-6 nodes and then top it half an inch above the second node.
 
yankeegreen

yankeegreen

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LordRalh3 said:
Feel free to chop all the unnecessary nodes you want but there is no reason other than cloning to take anything but the very top, and it doesn't matter if you cut at the 2nd 3rd or 7th you will get 2 tops from wherever you chopped. To get more you have to top it or fim it again, and fimming has nothing to do with popcorn buds, it ALL about light penitration.
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Strongly disagree. Topping above the second parallel node will result in 4 colas. Pruning the lower third of the plant allows energy to be distributed more efficiently to bud production.
 
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LordRalh3

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Disagree any way you want when you top you will get one growth out of either side of where you topped, disagree with gravity i dont care jump off a bridge without a glider and your ass is still gonna fall. Its not an opinion that you get two growths from a topping its simply what happens. And exactly what bud production are you talking about these are plants just beginning veg? You sound like bmeat
 
yankeegreen

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LordRalh3

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Just read through it and it didn't change my mind in the slightest, my clones are taken from a mother plant so it makes no sense to me to chop the extra week or two of growth off to get a less even plant, if you top get the double and then top those two you have all 4 coming out of the same spot without losing the growth time. Which is gonna be superior in all the ways that matter to me. But i guess if you don't do mother plants then this will net you a clone, and where did i mention pruning?
 
hydrocropper420

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heres a picture of where to cut the top off,(in the center of the ''Y'' on the top youll see a little nub from where the top was) make sure not to get the little nodes on the sides as those are going to be your new tops as you see in the picture, the smaller one was topped 9 days ago, then ill top those 2 tops tomorrow to make the 4 main colas, this is a white widow on the 2nd node the bigger one is on the 4th node and you can see the stalk size and the bushyness of the results.IMAG0373.jpgIMAG0374.jpg
August's Anemone said:
don't want to "fimm" my lady. (fim gives popcorn buds IMO)
I want to top her..

let me rephrase my question:
If I wanted to use the "topping" technique in order to create 4 main colas before scrog; how would I do so?

Hypothetically speaking let's say Critical#47 is on her 5th node, would cutting right above the 2nd node give me 4 main colas?

Or does someone have any other ideas?
I'm open to suggestions.. Maybe some pictorial results?...
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hydrocropper420

hydrocropper420

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also if you are using a scrog technique then you will have all your bud site be main tops so more than 4 if you do it right, that is the point of the ''screen of green'', you can keep topping cuz the screen will hold the buds up all level, not too many times tho, too much stress will hurt it!!!
hydrocropper420 said:
heres a picture of where to cut the top off,(in the center of the ''Y'' on the top youll see a little nub from where the top was) make sure not to get the little nodes on the sides as those are going to be your new tops as you see in the picture, the smaller one was topped 9 days ago, then ill top those 2 tops tomorrow to make the 4 main colas, this is a white widow on the 2nd node the bigger one is on the 4th node and you can see the stalk size and the bushyness of the results.View attachment 2532156View attachment 2532157
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August's Anemone

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hydrocropper420 said:
also if you are using a scrog technique then you will have all your bud site be main tops so more than 4 if you do it right, that is the point of the ''screen of green'', you can keep topping cuz the screen will hold the buds up all level, not too many times tho, too much stress will hurt it!!!
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thnx hydro,
nice pics btw.
so har far do you let it grow (node wise)?
which node do you cut at in your pic looks like you topped right above the 1st node?
 
hydrocropper420

hydrocropper420

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if youre going for the scrog i would top anywhere you can once its grown to the 4th node, after the 4th node then the stalk should be thick enough to start supporting multiple tops as they grow, so each original top can be topped, then once the 2 new ones grow up a few inches then top those 2, theres your 4 mains that you want, but if you do it while its short like mine, I have 16 tops on both my 2 plants, 2 from topping 1 time, and all the other tops are from supercropping all the side mains, plus tieing and taping, to get light to every part of that plant, ill get some more pics of my plants up close, if you look at them close, youll see exactly what i mean, all the bottom branches are at the top with the original tops. i rotate them daily and give them a good under wind for a nice canopy, its really all quite easy, youll see and then go, OH SHIT COOL, lol, these plants are very fun to work with and you can see results daily when you modify them from the original growing style.
 
NerdJr

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Top at the 3rd node and then everywhere for two months at wala you get this 100_4107.jpg100_4093.jpg it has over 50 main COLAS :fire: 20, 23 watt 5400k CFL bulbs at 24/7 for 2 and a half months then to 18/6 with a timer, Sannies Mad Shack strain :peace:
 
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