Trump/Russia v. Clinton/DNC

TacoMac

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sure, its not cnn, msnbc, so it must be fake news .
The problem with your statement is that pretty much all news agencies say the same thing with two exceptions: Fox News and RT. Not surprisingly, Fox News and RT seem to agree on pretty much everything.

When you have two lunatic fringe, privateer corporations and their clone sites saying one thing, and the entire world press saying another, then it's a pretty safe bet who's full of shit and who isn't.
 

londonfog

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That's true.

The same thing happened during G.W.'s second election - rather than let the people decide which democratic candidate should run, the DOC figured they would take it upon themselves to shove John Kerry down our throats.

Nobody wanted Lurch as president, so they either didn't bother voting, or worse, voted for Bush. That's how he got two terms, plain and simple.

People have simply grown fed up and are practicing the "revenge vote" because those in power never fucking learn: If you follow the will of the people, you WILL NOT LOSE.

But once you start shoving things they don't want down their throats, you are GUARANTEED to lose.

And that's exactly what happened with the Hillary/Sanders/Trump debacle. Those in the college said, "Fuck it. I'm not putting that bitch in the god damned white house. We've lived with the fucking Clinton's for decades. It's time for them to go the fuck away!"

And that's exactly what they did.

Had it been Sanders running instead, we're not having this conversation and Trump is in yet another bankruptcy court begging for extensions.
Sanders never had the votes. The proof is in your primaries.
 

TacoMac

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Sanders never had the votes. The proof is in your primaries.
But the part you overlook is the primaries were rigged heavily in favor of Clinton. That's what made the wheels come off of everything. That's why the entire DOC has turned over its entire leadership.

Hillary's nabbing the Democratic Nomination is about as legitimate as Trump's nabbing the Presidency.
 

rkymtnman

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All of these Bernie babies with their claims that the primaries were rigged.

they seem to gloss over the fact that bernie ran with fortitude and conviction as an Independent when running for Senator of VT.
why then not do the same and run as an I for President?

instead, he piggybacks on the Dem party and gets the exposure, the resources, the finances, etc that he would not have gotten as an Independent.

if anything is true, he himself rigged it to miraculously become a Dem overnite. he would be a mere afterthought if he stayed true to himself and ran as an Ind.
 

schuylaar

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Amazing.

The only thing more amazing is that not only is he still in office but no one is mounting a serious campaign to have him ousted. Yes, the articles were introduced- and they quickly dropped out of sight like a rock in a muddy pond.

What that says about the state of our Union is beyond troubling.
it's coming out that president pedo already knew he was in the throws of dementia long before taking office.
 

UncleBuck

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All of these Bernie babies with their claims that the primaries were rigged.

they seem to gloss over the fact that bernie ran with fortitude and conviction as an Independent when running for Senator of VT.
why then not do the same and run as an I for President?

instead, he piggybacks on the Dem party and gets the exposure, the resources, the finances, etc that he would not have gotten as an Independent.

if anything is true, he himself rigged it to miraculously become a Dem overnite. he would be a mere afterthought if he stayed true to himself and ran as an Ind.
bernie also got some free help from russia. maybe his campaign manager tad devine knows something about that?
 

Padawanbater2

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All of these Bernie babies with their claims that the primaries were rigged.

they seem to gloss over the fact that bernie ran with fortitude and conviction as an Independent when running for Senator of VT.
why then not do the same and run as an I for President?

instead, he piggybacks on the Dem party and gets the exposure, the resources, the finances, etc that he would not have gotten as an Independent.

if anything is true, he himself rigged it to miraculously become a Dem overnite. he would be a mere afterthought if he stayed true to himself and ran as an Ind.
Sanders caucuses with the Democrats

Is there a rule that says Independents can't run for president as a Democrat or Republican?

Why didn't any Clinton supporters raise the issue during the primary?
 

ttystikk

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The problem with your statement is that pretty much all news agencies say the same thing with two exceptions: Fox News and RT. Not surprisingly, Fox News and RT seem to agree on pretty much everything.

When you have two lunatic fringe, privateer corporations and their clone sites saying one thing, and the entire world press saying another, then it's a pretty safe bet who's full of shit and who isn't.
Please tell us, which Fix News commentator is the equivalent of Lee Camp?
 

ttystikk

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All of these Bernie babies with their claims that the primaries were rigged.

they seem to gloss over the fact that bernie ran with fortitude and conviction as an Independent when running for Senator of VT.
why then not do the same and run as an I for President?

instead, he piggybacks on the Dem party and gets the exposure, the resources, the finances, etc that he would not have gotten as an Independent.

if anything is true, he himself rigged it to miraculously become a Dem overnite. he would be a mere afterthought if he stayed true to himself and ran as an Ind.
Noam Chomsky is also in solid agreement that the nomination process was unfairly tilted towards Mrs Clinton.

But an emeritus professor from some podunk college like MIT doesn't have a shred of credibility with those who are sooooo tooootally shuuur they know what happened.
 
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