Twitter users bully woman into committing suicide for branding her homophobic

SneekyNinja said:

Tbh I was trying to annoy Pada (cos he's completely lost his mind recently) but you just jumped on the hook too.

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unfortuantley you replied directly to me and when i called you out on it you doubled down

you will not get a pass on this from me

I think she was well within her rights to deny the job but surely she had to know that in 2017 her post would face a backlash?

Also I think its totally right that women are free to do whatever they want but its a sad reflection on the state of the nation that emotionally unstable people are forced to engage in porn or prostitution for basic survival.

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they arent forced at all i see no evidence at all that she was

in fact from what i have seen looking at her tweets in last few days she seemed to have found a place where she was happy and amoungst friends

untill the outrage train brought in its lynch mob with pitch forks and torches


and yes the lynch mob is now very much alive and kicking after many years of disapearing from the usa

ginjawarrior said:

unfortuantley you replied directly to me and when i called you out on it you doubled down

you will not get a pass on this from me

they arent forced at all i see no evidence at all that she was

in fact from what i have seen looking at her tweets in last few days she seemed to have found a place where she was happy and amoungst friends

untill the outrage train brought in its lynch mob with pitch forks and torches


and yes the lynch mob is now very much alive and kicking after many years of disapearing from the usa

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Alot of people with severe depression seem at their happiest before they actually carry out the act of committing suicide.

ginjawarrior said:

i never knew or saw her before this certainly have never jacked off to her or her work

i just hate the blatent hyprocracy of the people who i thought was on the same side of me you know the ones who respect a persons wishes of what they chose for their bodies

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In addition to respecting the right of a person to choose whomever they wish to bang, for pay or not, I also respect the equal right of people to work free from false accusations and harassment regardless of race, sex or sexual orientation.

We probably are on the same side on most issues. We don't have to agree on everything. I think we agreed that if test protocols were followed, including observing recommended timing for first and second tests and safe sex is practiced outside of the porn studio, then the risk to a bareback porn performer is practically zero for everybody.

As far as I can tell, you read the deceased woman's words as benign and I read a bias into what she said. I would appreciate if you could explain what you think she meant when:

On December 3 she wrote: "Whichever (lady) performer is replacing me tomorrow... you’re shooting with a guy who has shot gay porn, just to let cha know."

Perhaps where we disagree is whether or not gay men are less trustworthy to follow safe protocol than heterosexual ones. I would say anybody who says that is homophobic.

abandonconflict said:

I don't think anyone that you are arguing with are suggesting she didn't have the right to refuse to work with someone. You're the one insisting she didn't make a very thinly veiled suggestion that other performers boycott gay men. I appreciate your dedication to good statistics but there's more to an argument than that. She did cross a line and the Twitter bullying was certainly not the only (or in my opinion even leading) factor in her final emotional breakdown. All I'm arguing is not to let the porn "industry" off the hook or the people who consume so much of it, creating market demand.

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i said earlier on in thread
"never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"
people should really remember that before they get on the outrage train

yes if it is a pattern ok attribute malice

but this case no

the inclination of the internet to go mob handed with ptichforks and torches to destroy anyone they concieve bad (without even double checking) is an absolute cancer on our modern society

the porn industry for all its fault is not a factor in this apart from the original agents that lied to august ames and led to the original tweet....

Fogdog said:

On December 3 she wrote: "Whichever (lady) performer is replacing me tomorrow... you’re shooting with a guy who has shot gay porn, just to let cha know."

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you are missing out the important part where she lambasts her agent..

she was lied to about who she was going to have a scene with and wanted to anyone who was going with that agent to know they might be lie to aswell

its a very subtle difference but it changes everything about your arguement

the part where it was a crossover from gay porn is where her preference kicks in

ginjawarrior said:

you are missing out the important part where she lambasts her agent..

she was lied to about who she was going to have a scene with and wanted to anyone who was going with that agent to know they might be lie to aswell

its a very subtle difference but it changes everything about your arguement

the part where it was a crossover from gay porn is where her preference kicks in

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why do you suppose she thought to warn whoever replaced her that the actor she would be performing with had done gay porn? why is that even relevant?

ginjawarrior said:

you are missing out the important part where she lambasts her agent..

she was lied to about who she was going to have a scene with and wanted to anyone who was going with that agent to know they might be lie to aswell

its a very subtle difference but it changes everything about your arguement

the part where it was a crossover from gay porn is where her preference kicks in

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Her agent is scum.

Her decision to only work with heterosexuals when performing with men is her own to make.

Since you are disagreeing with me about my interpretation of what she meant when she said:

On December 3 she wrote: "Whichever (lady) performer is replacing me tomorrow... you’re shooting with a guy who has shot gay porn, just to let cha know."

I've explained my interpretation of what she said and implications to other workers in that industry.

What is your interpretation of what she said?

UncleBuck said:

why do you suppose she thought to warn whoever replaced her that the actor she would be performing with had done gay porn? why is that even relevant?

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the agent she was with knew she didnt want to do those scenes and lied to her about it

and she isnt alone in the industry in choosing not to do sceens with men from that scene and wanted to tell others who have already made that choice that they might be lied to too

you know like if you knew someone violated consent (her agent) she should have the ability to tell others about it

go read her twitter account there is many people from the porn industry saying that it is pretty normal for women to take that choice

Fogdog said:

Her agent is scum.

Her decision to only work with heterosexuals when performing with men is her own to make.

Since you are disagreeing with me about my interpretation of what she meant when she said:

On December 3 she wrote: "Whichever (lady) performer is replacing me tomorrow... you’re shooting with a guy who has shot gay porn, just to let cha know."

I've explained my interpretation of what she said and implications to other workers in that industry.

What is your interpretation of what she said?

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see post above that i made to buck

Fogdog said:

Her agent is scum.

Her decision to only work with heterosexuals when performing with men is her own to make.

Since you are disagreeing with me about my interpretation of what she meant when she said:

On December 3 she wrote: "Whichever (lady) performer is replacing me tomorrow... you’re shooting with a guy who has shot gay porn, just to let cha know."

I've explained my interpretation of what she said and implications to other workers in that industry.

What is your interpretation of what she said?

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i will say it wasnt the best thought out and was a bit crass but i see the sentiment that she was warning people about being lied to on the shoot

ginjawarrior said:

i will say it wasnt the best thought out and was a bit crass but i see the sentiment that she was warning people about being lied to on the shoot

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So then you don't see this "warning" as discriminatory statement against gay or bisexual men in her workplace? Please tell me what you see as her purpose in putting out this warning if not to discriminate?

ginjawarrior said:

she should have the ability to tell others about it

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well se had that ability until she offed herself. i was asking why do you suppose she thought to warn whoever replaced her that the actor she would be performing with had done gay porn.

ginjawarrior said:

she was warning people about being lied to on the shoot

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no she wasn't. she was saying that the male actor had done gay porn.

UncleBuck said:

no she wasn't. she was saying that the male actor had done gay porn.

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she is saying both you are just focusing on the former and igoring the latter

August Ames‏Verified account@AugustAmesxxx Dec 3




whichever (lady) performer is replacing me tomorrow for @EroticaXNews , you’re shooting with a guy who has shot gay porn, just to let cha know. BS is all I can say Do agents really not care about who they’re representing? #ladirect I do my homework for my body

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it is crass and not well worded but it isnt just focused on an actor from gay porn and she doent even mention his name

Fogdog said:

So then you don't see this "warning" as discriminatory statement against gay or bisexual men in her workplace? Please tell me what you see as her purpose in putting out this warning if not to discriminate?

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because there are people she works with that chooses the same as her to not work with them and she wanted to tell them about an agent lying about it???

ginjawarrior said:

it is crass and not well worded but

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i'm not homophobic but you’re shooting with a guy who has shot gay porn, just to let cha know.

Padawanbater2 said:

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you're not homophobic but you call people f****ots

UncleBuck said:

i'm not homophobic but you’re shooting with a guy who has shot gay porn, just to let cha know.

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again your concentrating on the former whilst ignoring the latter

you're not seeing the wood for the trees here

the part where the agent lied to her was about people who had shot gay porn

its a part that i think its been decided in thread that it is ok for her to choose

if you dont believe that fine. i'm not going to go back round in circles about it just because you've decided to jump in all of a sudden

ginjawarrior said:

because there are people she works with that chooses the same as her to not work with them and she wanted to tell them about an agent lying about it???

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Thanks. Do you think maybe we came to an understanding here? I do.

Taking her side, I would say its completely her right to choose who to work with or not and warn others who were like her against that agent.

Taking the side of people that she is excluding based upon sexual orientation, I'd say there is unfair workplace discrimination in her statement on twitter.

By her action she advocated discrimination against people in her workplace. Where else could people who were harmed by her statements go but to social media to address discrimination? It wasn't so much her decision about what to do with her body that was wrong, it was her decision to take her opinion to twitter and advocate for workplace discrimination against gay men that was wrong.