Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas
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Uncle Ben
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Bud mass (production) is dependent on the amount of (healthy) foliage mass.
Keep us posted with some pix, ya hear!
UB
Uncle Ben
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Not even at the 5th or 6th node. Its the second node Im pretty sure.
UB. There are some clones Ive taken, and the nodes seems to have died off. The fan leaf there dried out, turned yellow, and was easily taken off. Do these still count as a full node? Or should I not count them when I want to top?
UB. There are some clones Ive taken, and the nodes seems to have died off. The fan leaf there dried out, turned yellow, and was easily taken off. Do these still count as a full node? Or should I not count them when I want to top?
Uncle Ben
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No they don't count if the node dried up, doesn't have a thing to do with you losing the fan leaf at that node.
Good luck,
UB
""""Yeah, but you'll get small colas and not necessarily dominant ones, just bushy as hell. Your typical main cola on the typical plant is the dominant branch or leader, just as a dominant leader (trunk) on a pecan or oak tree would be. Top (pinch out the top of that leader) and you have just redistributed the ho moans to points (dormant foliar buds) below the cut, which makes for multiple leaders.""""
how about for outdoor plants, whats the maximum colas possible? will they be large or small colas? outside the root mass could be as large as it could be so lets say 16 colas could be made? or how would you trim and top the plant to make it produce lots?
how about for outdoor plants, whats the maximum colas possible? will they be large or small colas? outside the root mass could be as large as it could be so lets say 16 colas could be made? or how would you trim and top the plant to make it produce lots?
Uncle Ben
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As I said, depends on where you top and how the plant responds. You will get two foliar outputs from the node below the cut. Just do the math. A plant with many colas will put out small colas. 1, 2, or 4 colas on a finished plant will be large - your call.
I top indoors or out and have almost 100% certainity of how the plant will respond. Below are a series of photos showing an outdoor plant topped from start to finish, which gave me 4 large (sativa geno) colas. The first two shots are shortly after topping clearly showing the output at the node axis', the third was a side shot of the 4 main colas hanging to dry, the fourth was a field shot taken about 2 months prior to chop and the last shot is a close up of the (sativa structured) bud. The 5 gallon pot was treated with Griffin's Spin-out paint, a copper based root tip terminator, pot was sunk about 3" into the dirt. What I hoped would happen didn't, the Griffin's was too dominant - I wanted the roots to explore the native soil out of the drainholes which would have increased my production even more. As it was, I got quite a bit of pot out of this one.
Good luck,
UB
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This is a better shot of the 4 main colas hanging to cure, sans the smaller side branches which I cured laying 'em out on hardware cloth. These colas were so heavy (and long) that they laid the plant over until I could stake it up. Of course sativa trunks/stems aren't very strong to begin with. I should have used a large tomato cage.
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looks really leafy is it because its sativa?
born2killspam
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Sativa leaf can have quite a bit of thc, and sativa bud structure isn't dense/nuggy like indicas so trimming it is a way different ballgame..
Uncle Ben
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born2killspam is right. Mel Franks has shown in THC studies where stems can be every bit as potent as buds. The seed pimps have trained the masses into equating potency with crystal covered bud, nothing could be farther from the truth. In reality their ploys are there only for marketing. It's what inside the resin head that counts.
The small bud leaves are trichome covered and has a different calyx structure than your typical mutts. See the closeup photo.
Good luck,
UB
born2killspam
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I get all my friends to save their shake/stems for me.. They're foolish nug snobs..
born2killspam
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If you try to trim a sativa bud clean/tight then you're going to be disapponted by whats left..
One point to consider is that THC is found only on surfaces, and leaflets have quite a bit of surface area.. (As does sativa bud in general)..
One point to consider is that THC is found only on surfaces, and leaflets have quite a bit of surface area.. (As does sativa bud in general)..
Uncle Ben
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Excellent points, I see your hip to sativas. I got flamed, harassed and insulted by the punks at PG showing sativa bud in 2 gallon baggies, shots taken from 6' away which didn't show anything of course. Those PG MJ nerds don't have a clue, just suckas for pimps hawking sugar coated buds and snake oils.
This is what Uncle Ben's "hay" looks like up close:
With sativa, you trim off all fan leaves leaving only trichome covered single bud leaves and calyxes. Notice too that the calyxes are bigger than normal. My Zamal, O. haze, and Vietnamese dalat, all sativa, had the exact same bud structure.
Keep it real,
UB
born2killspam
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Oh yea, I like sativa.. I grew up on weed ancestored from bag-seed my dad had when he was younger.. Back before indoor growing, when the vast majority was shipped in from the tropics, and sold by the lid..
Sativas can be a hassle in so many ways, but its so much better smoke for most situations IMO.. I can understand why alot of younger ppl shy away from it though, not only the scaggle, but most sativa that you might come across in a random bag is brutally premature, and infact schwag
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Sativas can be a hassle in so many ways, but its so much better smoke for most situations IMO.. I can understand why alot of younger ppl shy away from it though, not only the scaggle, but most sativa that you might come across in a random bag is brutally premature, and infact schwag
..Recluse420
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Not to take away from your topping technique Ben but if anyone here has an interest in this they would love to hear about LST (Low stress training), all the benefits of topping but easier on the plant due to not having to cause it an harm or stress, the idea is that you bend over the plant once it's about 3 weeks old and tie it down which sends a signal to all the other branches telling them to take over vertical growth so as you keep tying them down you build a small bush that will produce WAY more than any topping technique will ever give you. Your lights will stay lower and hit more bud sites then raising the light as it grows...
born2killspam
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And there are many threads for discussing LST..
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