US Federal Judge: US Constitution has no value

Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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9leaves said:
I know that. Other people say it all is way to old. Thats why I said updates. The amendments make it grow with us. Yet I still see others saying it is to old.
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Because the government is telling them that. The government wants to throw off their shackles so that they no longer serve the people.

The bill of rights was to keep the government out of our private lifes.
Amendments were added to enforce equality for citizens.

The constitution is supposed to be the supreme law of the land and our elected officials are sworn to protect it.

Supreme court judges use the constitution and study the founders writings on it to determine the constitutionality of laws.

For a person who may become a judge on the supreme court to say there is no value in the Constitution they must not believe in the role of government, which is to serve the people.

It shows corruption spreading to the highest levels of government. We have a president who dislikes the constitution, a presidential candidate who is against free speach and gun rights, and now a person who may become a SC judge saying there is no reason to study the constitution.

There are forces trying to undo everything that made our country free. They will scold and accuse others of the same things they are guilty of.
 
9leaves

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Flaming Pie said:
Because the government is telling them that. The government wants to throw off their shackles so that they no longer serve the people.

The bill of rights was to keep the government out of our private lifes.
Amendments were added to enforce equality for citizens.

The constitution is supposed to be the supreme law of the land and our elected officials are sworn to protect it.

Supreme court judges use the constitution and study the founders writings on it to determine the constitutionality of laws.

For a person who may become a judge on the supreme court to say there is no value in the Constitution they must not believe in the role of government, which is to serve the people.

It shows corruption spreading to the highest levels of government. We have a president who dislikes the constitution, a presidential candidate who is against free speach and gun rights, and now a person who may become a SC judge saying there is no reason to study the constitution.

There are forces trying to undo everything that made our country free. They will scold and accuse others of the same things they are guilty of.
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Yes thank you. We are both on the same page. My original post was saying getting rid of the constution was wrong. Can't agree with you more.
 
desert dude

desert dude

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It's nice to see a couple of people on RIU who recognize the value of the rule of law instead of the rule of whichever asshole is in power at the moment.

The tragedy is that it is only a couple of people. How did this place get so infested with government boot-lickers?
 
desert dude

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My apologies to a handful of people, NLSX Rob Roy, and a few others. I don't consider you guys to be government boot-lickers.

We all know who the boot-lickers are.
 
UncleBuck

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Flaming Pie said:
We have a president who dislikes the constitution, a presidential candidate who is against free speach and gun rights
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let's see some examples of this.

then after we get some examples from you, you can tell us how banning a religion is right in line with the first amendment that you are so worried about.
 
UncleBuck

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desert dude said:
It's nice to see a couple of people on RIU who recognize the value of the rule of law instead of the rule of whichever asshole is in power at the moment.

The tragedy is that it is only a couple of people. How did this place get so infested with government boot-lickers?
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no need to be so bitter, curmudgeonly white supremacist cop. the real problem lies not with us, but with you. you have a belief system such that you view certain races as inferior and certain people as lesser. that just ain't the case.

if you stop spending all your time whining about blacks and mexicans and spewing purple prose on a pot website (not sure why you chose a pot website being that you are a white supremacist and a cop) i'm sure your whole outlook on life would improve.
 
Fogdog

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desert dude said:
It's nice to see a couple of people on RIU who recognize the value of the rule of law instead of the rule of whichever asshole is in power at the moment.

The tragedy is that it is only a couple of people. How did this place get so infested with government boot-lickers?
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What I want to know is how did this place get so infested with dementia patients?
 
Fogdog

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desert dude said:
My apologies to a handful of people, NLSX Rob Roy, and a few others. I don't consider you guys to be government boot-lickers.

We all know who the boot-lickers are.
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Didn't you say a few posts up that any attempt to correct undue influence of the wealthy is a naive attempt to fight corruption? How does fighting corruption, naive or otherwise make a person a boot-licker?
 
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desert dude

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Fogdog said:
Didn't you say a few poss up that any attempt to correct undue influence of the wealthy is a naive attempt to fight corruption? How does fighting corruption, naive or otherwise make a person a boot-licker?
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No, I said no such thing. Your Alzheimer's has you confused again.

I guess you are talking about the CU decision by SCOTUS. It is a simple first amendment decision.

With all the bleeting about "money in politics", I would expect you speech suppressors to actually look at the recent examples of huge piles of money spent with no effect. Look at Jeb Bush's try at the Republican nomination. He pissed away many millions and Republicans kicked him to the curb. Trump has spent almost nothing and has the nomination, most likely.

If you and the rest of the government worshipers on RIU want to pool your unemployment insurance checks and buy an ad in the Penny Saver, you have that right. The government can't stop you. Why would you want the government to stop you? What books, songs, or films do you want to burn and ban?
 
Fogdog

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desert dude said:
No, I said no such thing. Your Alzheimer's has you confused again.

I guess you are talking about the CU decision by SCOTUS. It is a simple first amendment decision.

With all the bleeting about "money in politics", I would expect you speech suppressors to actually look at the recent examples of huge piles of money spent with no effect. Look at Jeb Bush's try at the Republican nomination. He pissed away many millions and Republicans kicked him to the curb. Trump has spent almost nothing and has the nomination, most likely.

If you and the rest of the government worshipers on RIU want to pool your unemployment insurance checks and buy an ad in the Penny Saver, you have that right. The government can't stop you. Why would you want the government to stop you? What books, songs, or films do you want to burn and ban?
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First of all you did claim that campaign finance reform is a naive attempt at curbing corruption:
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Are you implying that the Democrats are going to clean up political corruption?
Haw, haw, haw. You have a talent for comedy, FD.
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Second of all, money isn't speech. It never was. That said, it doesn't buy elections, it buys politicians. Big donors can call their boy any time they want and discuss "issues of the day" such as some tax loophole that would be nice if it were enacted, as if they aren't really asking for a favor in return. The ten dollar donor gets an e-mail reply thanking them for their support. You are being phony DD, not even naive.

Your mind is closed, sealed and decaying. Take a look at California as an example of how well a progressive government can run things and compare that with, say, Louisiana, Kansas or Indiana where the small government, small taxes and declining prosperity are the order of the day. As Bill Maher said, to repeat the same thing and expect a different result is no longer the definition of insanity, it is the definition of conservative.
 
desert dude

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Fogdog said:
First of all you did claim that campaign finance reform is a naive attempt at curbing corruption:

Second of all, money isn't speech. It never was. That said, it doesn't buy elections, it buys politicians. Big donors can call their boy any time they want and discuss "issues of the day" such as some tax loophole that would be nice if it were enacted, as if they aren't really asking for a favor in return. The ten dollar donor gets an e-mail reply thanking them for their support. You are being phony DD, not even naive.

Your mind is closed, sealed and decaying. Take a look at California as an example of how well a progressive government can run things and compare that with, say, Louisiana, Kansas or Indiana where the small government, small taxes and declining prosperity are the order of the day. As Bill Maher said, to repeat the same thing and expect a different result is no longer the definition of insanity, it is the definition of conservative.
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I agree that money buys politicians. What is the net worth of the Clinton crime family now days, something north of $200,000,000, isn't it? Chelsea Clinton recently bought a $10,000,000 apartment in New York. That is what all recent college grads do, right Fogdog? Poor, chinless Chelsea also said breathlessly, "I've tried, but I just can't care about money". Tone deafness seems to run in the family.
 
UncleBuck

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desert dude said:
I agree that money buys politicians. What is the net worth of the Clinton crime family now days, something north of $200,000,000, isn't it? Chelsea Clinton recently bought a $10,000,000 apartment in New York. That is what all recent college grads do, right Fogdog? Poor, chinless Chelsea also said breathlessly, "I've tried, but I just can't care about money". Tone deafness seems to run in the family.
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what crime?
 
Fogdog

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desert dude said:
I agree that money buys politicians. What is the net worth of the Clinton crime family now days, something north of $200,000,000, isn't it? Chelsea Clinton recently bought a $10,000,000 apartment in New York. That is what all recent college grads do, right Fogdog? Poor, chinless Chelsea also said breathlessly, "I've tried, but I just can't care about money". Tone deafness seems to run in the family.
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do you have a point to make or are you just oozing hate out of your pores again?

Making money in speaker's fees isn't a crime. Otherwise every politician in Washington would be behind bars. And yes, her and Bill's ties with big money, defense and extremely rapid accumulation of wealth is tawdry to say the least. Tawdry is not a crime either.

So, what crime was Hillary charged with?

And really, a rat cop shouldn't talk.
 
Flaming Pie

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UncleBuck said:
let's see some examples of this.

then after we get some examples from you, you can tell us how banning a religion is right in line with the first amendment that you are so worried about.
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How about this, find a quote of obama supporting the constitution's authority or a quote of Hillary championing the values of the first or second amendment.
 
Flaming Pie

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Nowhere has Trump said he wants to ban the religion of islam. He said he wants to stop immigration from muslim countries that are the centers of terrorism at the moment.

It does not affect muslims in the USA. Therefore it does not affect the 1st amendment.
 
UncleBuck

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Flaming Pie said:
How about this, find a quote of obama supporting the constitution's authority or a quote of Hillary championing the values of the first or second amendment.
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nah.

you made a claim, so it is up to you to support that claim.

so i'll just let you twist in the wind like the empty-headed racist you are.
 
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