using sugared water

i just harvested a hempy grow which i used sweet or another sugar source on throughout flowering. big yield good smell good trich count perfect plant no issues. i tore apart the root ball to inspect root health all bright white healthy roots the medium had a fresh soil like smell with no sings of fermentation or root rot of any kind and many many feeder roots. i will continue to use a carbohydrate source in soil or hempy style grows. i prefer anecdotal evidence to what a study says besides that some studies i have read contradict each other. in my experience indoor and out on various grows is that a carb source helps root growth and overall yield and thats all that matters to me

I skipped all the reading but I have a question.

I read on OG a few years ago that stated that the sugar (glucoase) molecule is to large to fit through the root lenticels. Again this is just what I read on OG so I am just asking. I also read that the way that nute manufacturers get around this is by chelating the sugars into smaller form of glucose. So providing that what I read is true how can adding sugar or molassis help the plant in any way?

Have you read the thread?? The goal with sugars is to feed microorganisms that work for the plant so they can work harder/longer to make nice useful small/polar ions..

mdgcmd said:

I skipped all the reading but I have a question.

I read on OG a few years ago that stated that the sugar (glucoase) molecule is to large to fit through the root lenticels. Again this is just what I read on OG so I am just asking.

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That was probably me. Yes, it is my understanding that the molecule is too large to pass thru the root's epidermal layer. If sucrose was a bonafide plant food they'd be selling it as fertilizer. I'm talking about the real world, not the world of cannabis forums where everyone is looking for a secret ingredient or gimmick.

Regarding feeding soil microbes, even the organic hacks I know that sell molasses by the 50 gallon drum disagree on what form is "best". Some is complex, some is simple, whatever that means. I personally think it is all a bunch of hooey. Having said that, I am running an experiment on sweet corn, visual one at best with no control group. About 2 weeks ago I drenched my corn with some bitches brew - Medina soil activator, complex of mychorrihae fungi/bacteria, and molasses. Corn looks great but then again so does everything else thanks to the recent rains.

If you're an organic grower, the cheapest and probably the best application you can give your plants is recently collected rainwater - it's full of microbes and N, especially if dropped out of thunderstorms.

UB

why more n if dropped by a thunderstorm? is there a molecular change of some kind from lightning/high electricity? never heard of that just wondering.

Regarding molasses, the simple stuff is likely fancy molasses, its higher in sucrose, and other fermentables at perhaps 65-85%.. The complex stuff would likely be blackstrap, which is perhaps 45-65% simple sugars..
Molasses is actually a waste product from sugar refining.. The fancier it is, the fewer stages it has gone through for sugar extraction, and the purer it will be.. The more blackstrap it is, the more complex stuff will be in there from complex molecules, burst open yeasts etc..
On that note, one thing soil loves is boiled yeast.. Boiling yeast bursts the cells and releases a plethora of complex stuff essential for basic life.. I've noticed that a few of those super-gimmicks toss that into the pot with their seaweed, and eye of newt before they bottle it..

yeast is very nutritious and is very high in various b vitamins which plants do use particularly when stressed think (superthrive) mostly b-1.

bicycle racer said:

why more n if dropped by a thunderstorm? is there a molecular change of some kind from lightning/high electricity? never heard of that just wondering.

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More nitrates and nitrogen oxides which are fixed free nitrogen by lightning. Now you know why your lawn looks so much greener after a good thunderstorm.

http://books.google.com/books?id=pLwFN1d59VsC&pg=PA266&lpg=PA266&dq=thunderstorm+rainfall+nitrates&source=bl&ots=z97vMxYuWQ&sig=uYyC0pPemmX16n4bVFUqk9xrCTo&hl=en&ei=zRkkSuP3F5HDtwe_zPzKBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7

good to know.

then again we dont have thunderstorms in socal at least there very unusual.

Wow! Learn something new every day. I think I'll try molasses.

My rainwater registers in at pH 5.7 and only 15ppm consistently..

its like ro or distilled more or less nice. in my area there is little to no rain so not a viable option for me too bad.

Uncle Ben said:

The only true "gimmick" that is failproof is a robust root system and a massive amount of healthy green foliage up to harvest.

UB

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So UB you don't think molasses is worth feeding the soil and provide plant with sugar. Not that smart need it in laymans terms.'
Thanks
H

Hemlock said:

So UB you don't think molasses is worth feeding the soil and provide plant with sugar. Not that smart need it in laymans terms.'
Thanks
H

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Also what is your opinion on using store bought Organic sugar and adding to the res at a rate if 1/10 a ml per gallon. No preheat.?