Vertical Tree Grow!

No way a male. All my plants are females for sure no mistakes never shown any sign of male flowers till now the other one is fine no seeds. Males do not produce buds. I have pulled her out and flushed her with 15 gallons RO water. I am definately not gonna put her back in there. Should I harvest her already or give her a few morer days for the flush to kick in? Its a shame to have to do this. Right now she is by a window not getting any light but what comes in the house. Should i just let her ride a few more days or chop her??

She is a cross between a bunch of shit and I know sometimes these crosses tend to herm.

MEGAyielder420 said:

No way a male. All my plants are females for sure no mistakes never shown any sign of male flowers till now the other one is fine no seeds. Males do not produce buds. I have pulled her out and flushed her with 15 gallons RO water. I am definately not gonna put her back in there. Should I harvest her already or give her a few morer days for the flush to kick in? Its a shame to have to do this. Right now she is by a window not getting any light but what comes in the house. Should i just let her ride a few more days or chop her??

She is a cross between a bunch of shit and I know sometimes these crosses tend to herm.

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I had a female once produce pollen, assumed she was just hermied as I had put her through all kinds, she pollinated a few clones of master kush I had chucked in...long story short I picked what I thought was all the sacks from her and she flowered out really well, no seeds that I could see. The clones however were less developed and full. I never used any of the seeds although I do have some left.

It would be better to quarantine her, if you cant put her under another light then chopping her would be better.

Thanks Newworld + rep brotha. I am gonna give those seeds a shot anyways that cross is gonna be some amazing buds I just hope they dont tun out to be hermis. I am gonna do some research to see what I find on breeding and hermis pollenating other plants. Thanks for the quick reply.

!! Everyone deserves to grow colas like that at least ounce!! 16oz off a plant!! I mean how hard is that. You need right genetics, right nute rations, close to perfect enviroment and water temps. I mean that's a hell of a challenge. The ones you wanna subscribe into!

Ok so I after breaking my head trying to figure out what to do with that herm Ed Hardy I said fuck it and choped the bitch down. It broke my heart because that was some fire and it would have yielded a nice amount. Here are some pics of what she looked like today before harvest.

These are from the bottom half. A bit early but she is still super frosty and has a nice smell to her.

This is the top half of her. Chunky colas! I could only imagine if it would of reached its peak. Anyways hope u like.

MEGA

MEGAyielder420 said:

Sorry Jo how many 600's are u running again? 3 1000's would kick ass! You know I can get my 1000's that close to my plants with out burning them and with a 600 as well bare bulb. When you grow vertical the heat goes up. The hot air will always rise. I can touch my 600 at the tip off the bulb and not get burned. There are many benefits of using vertical lighting.

Yo lets see some pics I love strawberry cough one of my favorite smokes, never smoked the grape krush but sounds delicious! Its cool to post some pics if youd like. You should do a smoke report on that grape krush.

Peace

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Thank you.
Right now I am running just 1, but in full swing I can run up to 5, I haven't much need to do that, so I was doing side lighting with reflectors, for some reason a vertical bulb never occurred to me. Haha, duh. Normally I just run 2 600's for the most part. But I am moving, and would really like to flex all the muscle I have. I have never actually ran more than 4 of my bulbs at once. I have pictures coming up right now, they really did exceed my expectations, the Grape Krush is now 4 days drying, they were day 1 when I took the pictures. But the Grape Krush already looks like top shelf shit.

Right now with the move I have to combine gardens, and me and the other gardener has agreed to come to a compromise. They can use their 2 extra-awesome XXXL Magnum Hoods, and I can still dangle my 2 600s in the middle of the garden. 3 1k's are for next time if I blow them away. Which I will because I am a awesome gardener no matter what

I have no idea how to control and organize pictures, and my boss is blowing up my phone because I have paper work due before midnight, so I will fix it later. The beautiful Christmas tree is the Grape Krush, and it has the awesome close up of the nug. The 8 stock monster is actually 10 stocks, 2 are just hidden, is the Strawberry Cough. That was the result of a over-sized topping that left a gaping hole in the plant, worse than anything I've seen, so we clipped it and flowered it out with the office clip on it the entire time. That thing got some bad light stress and it went all crazy, it really detours me from trying it again, but I know the nugs can be soooo much better, I've tried the seeded mother, it was spectacular. I still have high hopes for it once it hits jars.

Anyways, pictures from Death Row:

Way to go Joe + REP. Those are some nice colas brotha. Only colas no popcorns from my view. Thats what im talking bout right there. U got skills bro once that vertical bulb comes in to play ur gonna murder that shit. Imagine your plants but with double those stocks with NO topping NO LST. The vertical light is gonna blow them up make them real bushy more bud sites more yield. Keep up the good work.

Thanks for sharing your grow and any input you've put into this thread.

MEGA

Thank you very much. It means a lot coming from an experienced grower. Popcorn nugs are not welcome here, and I put an effort into managing them. I keep my lamps ridiculously close to my plants, and make sure everything is lolipopped. But I like the idea of vertical lighting because all that popcorn is going to come back to me as big fat nugs. But I was really pleased with that Grape Krush. I have a OCD thing about seeing stem, the only stem I should see is at the base of the branch, cola's shouldn't ever be naked! Good genetics, good gardening techniques, and a lot of love That's why we all kick so much ass here.

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Ok so a few days ago I found a seed on my Ed Hardy # 2. I pulled it off, and inspected her to see if there was any other signs of herming. Today when I walk in this morning still keeping an eye on her. I decided to thoroughly inspect my other plants as well just in case. I found 2 seeds on my beautiful giesel the one that comes out in the middle of tent in the pics Ive posted. She was right next to that Ed Hardy #2. So now I start to freak out and pull that EH#2 bitch out and start looking at her branch by branch only to find male flowers (Pollen Sacs) that had opened up and probly pollenated the others, well for sure pollenated that explains the seeds on my giesel. When I plucked them pollens sacs off you can see the pollen just fall right off of it.

What do i do??? What would you do? She looks sooo beautiful and she can still take about 2 more weeks give or take. Do you think she will fuck everything else up? Im not worried about a couple seeds but fuck man I def do not want no fucking seeded hermed buds.

Another thing Im not too big on breeding but what do you think about the seeds on the Giesel? That would most def be a sick ass strain!! Will she be genectically proned to herm or maybe not because it is as if a male pollenated a female??

Your advice and comments would be highly appreciated.

Thanks,

MEGA

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The Grape Krush actually grew some bananas on me, and seeded my Strawberry Cough and herself. Sorry it took me so long to actually read this, but I have some advice. If it's just a few bananas don't worry to much, immediately pick the immature ones as soon as you see them, for the more mature ones, spray them down with water, this will keep the pollen from spreading. Then go ahead and pluck them with tweezers from the base. Spray with water if you see any pollen come out. So far I've only found 1 seed on the Grape Krush, and over 5 seeds on the Strawberry Cough. Which actually makes sense, because I very carefully removed the banana from the Krush, but while pulling it out of the garden I loosened my grip right as my tweezers were over the Cough and I'm sure some pollen fell onto it. So for this reason I would also advise having a sandwich bag handy to immediately discard the pollen sacks into, so that doesn't happen to you as well.

Even though they are more likely to be hermies than normal, I am excited about the cross, and will throw them outside for shits and giggles. It does not guarantee that they will be hermies, but I believe a non hermie will more likely grow balls under stress. Or some shit. I can't find my Grow Bible. Do you own one? Is it the most recent addition by Jorge Cervantes or Greg Green? They are excellent and cover a lot of problems in breeding, including hermies. The most recent by Greg Green is a full color collaboration between himself and Jorge Cervantes (George Vann Patten)

Thanks for the info. I had to do the same thing before with a previous crop and I only found like 5 seeds in like 4 lbs I was able to controll it but I guess I let my guard down this time and I got to it too late.

The Ed Hardy I harvested early is looking beautiful its better than I thought. I looked at the trichs today with my 60x handheld led microscope and I was suprised to see about 80% milky and 20% amber very few still looked clear. Its smelling really nice as it drys up and it is super frosty. I am looking forward to vaping some very soon.

i been over at icmag,reading up on this vert growing,you got me upgradeing my room...

thanks.

genuity said:

i been over at icmag,reading up on this vert growing,you got me upgradeing my room...

thanks.

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Good shit brother. You will be happy with the outcome. Im planning out my next room right now as we speak. Im leaning towards 20 gallon brutes hempy style with a 4 to 1 ratio or perlite and canna coco. Im gonna stick with the same nutes although I am thinking about giving the GTD Hammerhead MOAB combo a chance instead of the Koolbloom liquid and powder. Im sorry G I dont recall what medium you are using and what nute line?

Thanks for stopping by. Im gonna have some pics up soon. Be easy.

MEGA

MEGAyielder420 said:

Good shit brother. You will be happy with the outcome. Im planning out my next room right now as we speak. Im leaning towards 20 gallon brutes hempy style with a 4 to 1 ratio or perlite and canna coco. Im gonna stick with the same nutes although I am thinking about giving the GTD Hammerhead MOAB combo a chance instead of the Koolbloom liquid and powder. Im sorry G I dont recall what medium you are using and what nute line?

Thanks for stopping by. Im gonna have some pics up soon. Be easy.

MEGA

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fox farm soil/and nute line,snowstorm ultra,GH CaMg +.
but i have been looking at the coco,i want to stay with the FF line of nutes,but i also like to use all the same product.

Dude, all I can say about switching fertilizer is go House & Garden. Rocks my world! I like it better than the GH (Flora series, FloraNova, General Organics) and the Fox Farm line up. I also like TechnaFlora a lot! Dirt cheap, amazing results, lacks flavor though, and gives watery tissue. However, it lasts forever and gives me very comparable yields to the H&G.

Coco Croutons or Coco Fiber? I've always been interested in hempy bucket, but I would think you would need to keep the medium a certain temps to keep the roots from getting sick. A pool of water at the bottom of the container sounds like a bad idea to me, but I have seen some pretty sweet hempy bucket grows.

80/20 sounds like the most beautiful trichome count I could accidentally ask for, so props on that dude. I actually had a White Berry that turned out the same way, but she got a root disease because I started ignoring my DWC garden. What are you thinking you pulled on your Ed Hardy? I know it's a jinx to say it out loud, but typing doesn't count.

Jozikins said:

Dude, all I can say about switching fertilizer is go House & Garden. Rocks my world! I like it better than the GH (Flora series, FloraNova, General Organics) and the Fox Farm line up. I also like TechnaFlora a lot! Dirt cheap, amazing results, lacks flavor though, and gives watery tissue. However, it lasts forever and gives me very comparable yields to the H&G.

Coco Croutons or Coco Fiber? I've always been interested in hempy bucket, but I would think you would need to keep the medium a certain temps to keep the roots from getting sick. A pool of water at the bottom of the container sounds like a bad idea to me, but I have seen some pretty sweet hempy bucket grows.

80/20 sounds like the most beautiful trichome count I could accidentally ask for, so props on that dude. I actually had a White Berry that turned out the same way, but she got a root disease because I started ignoring my DWC garden. What are you thinking you pulled on your Ed Hardy? I know it's a jinx to say it out loud, but typing doesn't count.

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First off Happy 420 to all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jo Ive thought about the H&G as well its just that Im a firm believer in the saying if it aint broke dont fix it and as of right now the GH has been good to my girls. I was considering the Hammerhead and the MOAB because it seems like the perfect P-K ratio its a sweet little cocktail when used correctly. Ive like the GH because its super concentrated and it reallymakes them grow fast and bloom fast as well Im just always looking for some way to get more yield at the end. I have also tried the humboldt line as well only the gravity flower hardener and it worked well for me maybe that is what I was lacking this round I dont know. I also started using the Florablend this round and I cant really tell its been great maybe next time I will hold back on it and see if it makes a difference although all these plants really smell nice maybe it has helped. As for my base nutes I think im gonna stick to the GH for now but change up my additives/enhancers.

Ohh jo to answer your ? I was thinking cocco fiber and the bigger coarse perlite. A buddy of mine that just switched from MPB bucket system back to cocco with the hempys is yielding 2 + lbs. I know what you mean about the water sitting at the bottom but as long as you check the runoff for ppm and ph you will be ok. As for temps its not really like hydro its just a 2 inch rez at the bottom and only the tips sit in it. I guess it may have to do with what part of the world you live in but still we all know that controlling temps and enviroment is not too hard just need some $ for equip but Im def looking forward too 2 + lbs. Lets see maybe I will just put them in 18 - 25 gallon pots or maybe go with 20 g hempys.

Pics as promised. This is the Ed Hardy almost dry. I put the dryer pcs to cure already in the ball mason jars. The jar in the pic is just a small stash jar I have with some hand picked nugs to cure for myself. Nug porn on 4/20 it doesnt get better than that lol. Let me also add I dried them differently. The top half of the plant I had hanging was dried upside down with 45% RH 70-75 degreez but when I felt the getting crispy on the outside I put them into the brown paper bags to dry up. The ones u see hanging indivual stocks were only hung to dry with the same enviromental conditions. I noticed that the ones I dried in the bag got darker but more dense also the fragrance is not as strong. The other ones on the other hand have a real nice light green color with a better smell even but not as dense a little more fluffy u can say.

These were hung then paper bag dried.

These were straight hung to dry only. Color is a lil better it is the bottom half so nuggs are a little smaller but over all I think I may see 4 oz from her.

Believe me dude, you are going to love the paper bag technique after a few days in the jars. At least I know I see a improvement in quality after it hits jars, the paperbag stuff loses that green smell much faster.

What GH products are you using? I've used several of their base line ups and a good handful of their additives. Personally, I like Flora Nova best, so far, but the plain GH Flora series couldn't be easier, and it is so much more concentrated, Flora Nova goes a little quick in comparison. The H&G has been rocking my socks off for a year or so now, and I am actually combining gardens at the moment, and my H&G is taking over the Flora Nova line up over here. With just one feeding I already see a huge difference in the health of the plant, but these guys kind of stopped caring a few weeks ago, so that is definitely the main reason why.

Oh, and I don't know if you've been doing this, but this is all I do now, which is use Ca/Mg as pH down and Si as pH up. Ca/Mg is mainly Calcium Nitrate and silica is Potassium Silicate. Not only does it correct your pH, but it forces a constant well balanced diet. It's so fucking beautiful, I add my A&B, the recommended amount of CalMax and ProTekt, and my pH is perfect and ready for all my living additives and boosters full of magic. I love living fertilizers because they basically pH correct themselves in the medium, they generally know what your plants want, I love it. I'm thinking of switching to full Organic for this reason. I have a full BioBizz line up I still haven't cracked into.

The hempy buckets actually sounds pretty good. Temps are always a bitch here and there is always $$ being thrown at it, sometimes though, you give the money to somebody and they come back with a cheap piece of shit... so I get the pleasure of properly cooling the temps in the grow room I'm moving into it, but at least I get to do it my way. I think I've talked them into full vert. We grow the same strains, but all mine look so much better, they are willing to go purely off my advise... ffucking sweet. I can't wait to be pulling yields like you.

And finally, HAPPY 420! I'm off to the hash parlor opening down in the desert, woo!

Hi mega, I'm still subscribed for average plant weight. cheers happy 420