Voter ID Laws

Wilderb

Well-Known Member
I know many states with conservative governments had put in place voter id laws. I have heard the "reasons" for these and have a hard time believing their need. More important, why are these same states making it harder to gain the needed ID?

I live in a voter ID state, WI. I had to renew my DL this week. So there is ONE DMV in 40 mile radius, 3 in a 75 mile radius. The one that is closest is open 8-5 Tue & Th. Other two are same hours, M-F.

So if you work a normal job with 8-5 hours, how are you going to get this done?
I suppose "on your lunch hour" is reasonable. Or is it?
I went to the closest.
Just to RENEW my DL took 90 min. Paperwork was ready, had everything I needed. I asked the guy at the counter if this was normal. He said that it was actually very fast because they were having a good day. Said to get an Id from scratch takes several hours IF the person has the proper paperwork, which he said is unusual. So it takes some people MORE than one trip to gain this id.
And my area is by far one of the better ones in the state. Some places to the west and north have dmvs that are only open 1 or 2 days a month.

The only voter fraud I know for a fact that has occurred in this state has happened in the legislature. Several times our lawmakers have been caught voting for other members who are absent. This was documented by John Oliver awhile back.

Explain to me the real reason for voter id. If it is really to "protect" our elections, then show me the fraud.
Shouldn't we want as many as possible to participate in our elections?

And if you agree with Paul Weyrich, and you don't think everyone should be able to vote, have the balls to say it and explain.
WE
 

OddBall1st

Well-Known Member
I know many states with conservative governments had put in place voter id laws. I have heard the "reasons" for these and have a hard time believing their need. More important, why are these same states making it harder to gain the needed ID?

I live in a voter ID state, WI. I had to renew my DL this week. So there is ONE DMV in 40 mile radius, 3 in a 75 mile radius. The one that is closest is open 8-5 Tue & Th. Other two are same hours, M-F.

So if you work a normal job with 8-5 hours, how are you going to get this done?
I suppose "on your lunch hour" is reasonable. Or is it?
I went to the closest.
Just to RENEW my DL took 90 min. Paperwork was ready, had everything I needed. I asked the guy at the counter if this was normal. He said that it was actually very fast because they were having a good day. Said to get an Id from scratch takes several hours IF the person has the proper paperwork, which he said is unusual. So it takes some people MORE than one trip to gain this id.
And my area is by far one of the better ones in the state. Some places to the west and north have dmvs that are only open 1 or 2 days a month.

The only voter fraud I know for a fact that has occurred in this state has happened in the legislature. Several times our lawmakers have been caught voting for other members who are absent. This was documented by John Oliver awhile back.

Explain to me the real reason for voter id. If it is really to "protect" our elections, then show me the fraud.
Shouldn't we want as many as possible to participate in our elections?

And if you agree with Paul Weyrich, and you don't think everyone should be able to vote, have the balls to say it and explain.
WE

1.5 million dead people voted in the last Presidential Election.
 

Wilderb

Well-Known Member
So you are saying google is your source? LOL.
But I guess I should expect that. No facts to back up your claims.
 

OddBall1st

Well-Known Member
Is it? So google is your source, not the search engine you used to find the source? It's your argument, your claims. Can you back them up with any type of fact?

Yes it is correct.

For the simple: I used Google to find out, you should too. Unless you refuse to believe what you read on the net.
 

Wilderb

Well-Known Member
Yes it is correct.

For the simple: I used Google to find out, you should too. Unless you refuse to believe what you read on the net.
So google is your source. Ok. By that logic, anyone can prove anything if ONE person EVER said it anywhere on the net. If you can find it stated on the google, it must be true. Lol. Starting to understand why you righties believe such dumb shit. Anybody else want to chime in with any facts?
 

Wilderb

Well-Known Member
Oh and BTW, we don't even receive the id or license for three weeks. It now gets sent to TX to get printed. Good old outsourcing.
 

OddBall1st

Well-Known Member
So google is your source. Ok. By that logic, anyone can prove anything if ONE person EVER said it anywhere on the net. If you can find it stated on the google, it must be true. Lol. Starting to understand why you righties believe such dumb shit. Anybody else want to chime in with any facts?

Maybe you feel dead people voting is not such a deal. Maybe I need to type in Crayola.
 

bearkat42

Well-Known Member
I know many states with conservative governments had put in place voter id laws. I have heard the "reasons" for these and have a hard time believing their need. More important, why are these same states making it harder to gain the needed ID?

I live in a voter ID state, WI. I had to renew my DL this week. So there is ONE DMV in 40 mile radius, 3 in a 75 mile radius. The one that is closest is open 8-5 Tue & Th. Other two are same hours, M-F.

So if you work a normal job with 8-5 hours, how are you going to get this done?
I suppose "on your lunch hour" is reasonable. Or is it?
I went to the closest.
Just to RENEW my DL took 90 min. Paperwork was ready, had everything I needed. I asked the guy at the counter if this was normal. He said that it was actually very fast because they were having a good day. Said to get an Id from scratch takes several hours IF the person has the proper paperwork, which he said is unusual. So it takes some people MORE than one trip to gain this id.
And my area is by far one of the better ones in the state. Some places to the west and north have dmvs that are only open 1 or 2 days a month.

The only voter fraud I know for a fact that has occurred in this state has happened in the legislature. Several times our lawmakers have been caught voting for other members who are absent. This was documented by John Oliver awhile back.

Explain to me the real reason for voter id. If it is really to "protect" our elections, then show me the fraud.
Shouldn't we want as many as possible to participate in our elections?

And if you agree with Paul Weyrich, and you don't think everyone should be able to vote, have the balls to say it and explain.
WE
Republicans can't win national elections without cheating.
 
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