Want to ban guns?

tuffles

Well-Known Member
Hold your breath.

No wait, don't do that because the answer to your question is NONE.
But if you want to spend a quarter or a million, now you can get a real Euromobile.
Yes you can a Lotus Elise. It would absolutely demolish a ZR1 around a race track. Or a TVR Tuscan or Cerbera. which comes in a 4.5ltr engine and goes to 60mph in under 3.6 secs.

Or most Porsche 911 turbos.

Has anyone seen a ZR1 boot it up Mulholland Drive. I bet it would crash if you tried driving it faster than 5mph up there.
 

tuffles

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Unfortunately Daytona is a bit far for me to drive. As I live in the leafy shires. But if you want to then please do. Or if you have both a Lotus and a ZR1 and would like to met me at Brands Hatch .I'll drive the Lotus and you can drive the ZR1 and I'll bet you £1 that I win. ;-)

how about this for a good day at the office. [video=youtube;uDP7Pty8Qnw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDP7Pty8Qnw[/video]
 

tuffles

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Of course the Japenese know how to build a quick car that is quite cheap goes like stink and corners like it's on rails. You can buy a fully specced up Nissan GTR for about £70k
But I prefer motorbikes to cars. Less about computers doing the driving and more about the person riding.
Check out this bloke on a Yamaha R1 doing a lap of the Nurburgring. I don't think a GTR or a ZR1 could touch him. balls of steel
[video=youtube;inc9cGasgsA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inc9cGasgsA[/video]
 

kelly4

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Yes you can a Lotus Elise. It would absolutely demolish a ZR1 around a race track. Or a TVR Tuscan or Cerbera. which comes in a 4.5ltr engine and goes to 60mph in under 3.6 secs.

Or most Porsche 911 turbos.

Has anyone seen a ZR1 boot it up Mulholland Drive. I bet it would crash if you tried driving it faster than 5mph up there.
Refer to bolded part. Now Google "Porsche 911 turbo vs. corvette ZR1". Now watch the first video titled 'monsters brawl'.


The 'Vette whips the Porsche 911 turbo on a road course.

Best part is....it was a European driving the two cars.
 

tuffles

Well-Known Member
Refer to bolded part. Now Google "Porsche 911 turbo vs. corvette ZR1". Now watch the first video titled 'monsters brawl'.


The 'Vette whips the Porsche 911 turbo on a road course.

Best part is....it was a European driving the two cars.
Why is the best part that it was a european driving? surely the best part is watching the cars racing?
Are you American? and being Nationalistic and happy because an American car beat a German car with a European driver?
 

dirtsurfr

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These shooters need to be dragged out to the street and shot in the head with all cameras rolling and broadcast it
allover the world.
And when the few start crying about the injustice of it deport them.
 

kelly4

Well-Known Member
Why is the best part that it was a european driving? surely the best part is watching the cars racing?
Are you American? and being Nationalistic and happy because an American car beat a German car with a European driver?
I would think that being European, he would have more experience driving smaller, lighter cars. The fact that he drove the 'Vette around the track faster than the Porsche does make me happy, yes.

The same way that if he drove the Porsche arount the track faster...would have made you happy.

Bottom line....'Vette beats Porsche 911 Turbo on road course.
 

tuffles

Well-Known Member
That looks fun. I never got into 'bikes'. I knew I would seriously hurt myself...or worse.
I have been riding sportsbikes for the last 7 years and just recently sold my fireblade (just had a baby) and for the money you can't get more thrills for the £ or $. It went up to 161mph with still more left in it. In the 7 years I have had 3 'off's' but only 1 resulted in a hospital stay.I ended up with a metal plate in my left arm.

If you like speed i would urge to get your bike licence and do it. You'd be suprised how you natural survival instincts slow you down. It takes years to overcome them and ride like you stole it lol
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
For the same cost (or less) of the ZR1, you could buy a Z06 and build a faster car than the ZR1 with bolt ons.
I don't doubt it , but what sort of bolt-ons? And faster how: top speed, quarter mile, or Nürburgring? I don't have a mechanic I'd trust to do the work. I'm a likely buyer for a totally-stock vehicle. The only thing I changed on my pickup is to install discharge headlights, and goodness knows it could use a power upgrade. cn
 

kelly4

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I don't doubt it , but what sort of bolt-ons? And faster how: top speed, quarter mile, or Nürburgring? I don't have a mechanic I'd trust to do the work. I'm a likely buyer for a totally-stock vehicle. The only thing I changed on my pickup is to install discharge headlights, and goodness knows it could use a power upgrade. cn
A couple little things like headers, new exhaust, new intake, new cam, tuning.

It would be nice to have the larger brakes of the ZR1, though.
 

iiKode

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What happens when we are invaded? how do we defend ourselves kitchen knifes against soldiers with automatic weapons? come on, the citizens of our country should help defend it and have the proper tools to do so. I'm from the UK and all i can say is when Russia invades i'm going to have to use a fucking sword against choppers and planes raping our whole nation! TBH the government don't care about anything except money, and keeping the peace (IE removing guns because they don't want to be turned on by the people holding guns) So that way they can stay high up on their high horses investing and earning some good ol tax payer money. They really need to rethink the whole economy idea, it makes people too greedy and lets face it, it is failing anyway.
 

Carne Seca

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What happens when we are invaded? how do we defend ourselves kitchen knifes against soldiers with automatic weapons? come on, the citizens of our country should help defend it and have the proper tools to do so. I'm from the UK and all i can say is when Russia invades i'm going to have to use a fucking sword against choppers and planes raping our whole nation! TBH the government don't care about anything except money, and keeping the peace (IE removing guns because they don't want to be turned on by the people holding guns) So that way they can stay high up on their high horses investing and earning some good ol tax payer money. They really need to rethink the whole economy idea, it makes people too greedy and lets face it, it is failing anyway.
Seriously? We have this little red button that, when pushed, will end the world as we know it. We have one of the most advanced, well equipped armies on the planet with plenty of guns, cannons, rocket launchers, tanks, and other assorted weapons of mass destruction. We also have an Airforce that can handle the raping of America by planes and choppers. No one is talking about removing all guns from American citizens. That's against the law. The talk is about limiting high capacity magazines and banning the type of assault weapons that killed those 20 babies. The talk is also about having all gun owners register their guns. Like when you register to vote or register for a drivers license. All this talk about, "THEY'RE TAKING OUR GUNS!!!" is just NRA propaganda and bullshit. It's time folks. There needs to be some serious talk about gun control and some actual action instead of another 10 years of rhetoric or another Columbine or Newtown.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Seriously? We have this little red button that, when pushed, will end the world as we know it. We have one of the most advanced, well equipped armies on the plant with plenty of guns, cannons, rocket launchers, tanks, and other assorted weapons of mass destruction. We also have an Airforce that can handle the raping of America by planes and choppers. No one is talking about removing all guns from American citizens. That's against the law. The talk is about limiting high capacity magazines and banning the type of assault weapons that killed those 20 babies. The talk is also about having all gun owners register their guns. Like when you register to vote or register for a drivers license. All this talk about, "THEY'RE TAKING OUR GUNS!!!" is just NRA propaganda and bullshit. It's time folks. There needs to be some serious talk about gun control and some actual action instead of another 10 years of rhetoric or another Columbine or Newtown.
I worry however that folks have a "zero-tolerance" attitude toward Columbine or Newtown or now Sandy Hook. Look at that Norwegian shooter, who operated in an environment with stringent gun laws. If zero tolerance is the criterion, there will be no protected residue of gun ownership. Even Japan, with the most stringent gun laws on the planet, still has killings by gun. cn
 

Carne Seca

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I worry however that folks have a "zero-tolerance" attitude toward Columbine or Newtown or now Sandy Hook. Look at that Norwegian shooter, who operated in an environment with stringent gun laws. If zero tolerance is the criterion, there will be no protected residue of gun ownership. Even Japan, with the most stringent gun laws on the planet, still has killings by gun. cn
that's why we need dialogue instead of rhetoric. How much is enough? How much is too much? What is the criteria for "mentally unstable"? (a proposal to ban mentally unstable people from owning guns has been discussed). I was diagnosed with PTSD. Is that going to stop me from owning a gun? We need to talk about this. A rational conversation. Flag waving and declarations of "There's going to be another 1776!" isn't helping anything. Just today some fool said he was going to start killing people. All that does is create more fear and generates knee jerk legislation that doesn't help anyone.
 
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