water plants with boiling water before harvest ????

Faculative Epiphytic lactic acid bacteria/fungi [yeasts].....I hate using big obtuse words to throw out there, but essentially micro-organisms that exclusively live on the surface of plants are the driver of plant fermentation in nature. Most other ways too, although, there technically could be an industrial process that could or does deviate somewhat from this process....

Silage is a great example of preparing fodder [animal feed from a plant source] to be more palatable aka digestive, thru the reduction of lignin, and more nutritionous as it becomes and moves thru fermentation.

Have to post silage links....have a few. What I haven't looked for or found is a process in the silage industry that uses heat when harvesting, not to say it doesn't exist. If such a process does exist, it would certainly be a lead into broader horizons....

@RM3
take a look when you get a chance, especially at the two PDF's with microbial....this certainly can explain some of the process especially going thru fermentation and how microlife is associated with the fermentation breakdown.....

I will post silage links in a new post, [think I can only have a few per post], silage is well defined activity, that describes fermentation of plant material and then its aerated state after such. Maybe this would help bridge our gap of understanding?

@bellcore how did it turn out

So far so good. I will chop em Thursday or Friday and let em dry in the tent for a few days. I'm getting low so I will try it out before cured.

Abiqua said:

The myth is that it provides a shock response where the plant supposedly shoves more "whatever" into the buds before harvest. This is not supported by any type of quantitative analysis. The biochemical functions don't or cannot even operate in such a way to make the belief true, in any way.

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Thats not why its done it kills the roots and the plants use up whats in the leaves so the cure is faster

From what ive read anyway . Woiuld just cutting the stalk and leaving the plant in light for a few days do the same thing ? Thats what im confused with

wood780 said:

Thats not why its done it kills the roots and the plants use up whats in the leaves so the cure is faster

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I am just as curious about the overall theory as the next person, don't construe my criticism as such, merely the driver to further the conversation.....I have background in biochemistry, which explains these processes, I am not arguing they don't happen, rather, what is truly the effect and is more effective than other methods.

I use science and chemistry, because we all at some degree, have been taught these concepts. It gives a common page to two different entities on a different pages, but working towards the same goal, it asks the question why in the organic breakdown sense....

if you want to explain the process, by all means, but don't be angry when I bomb you with questions, not because I expect to ascert my knowledge or whatever, just rather that you, the ambiguous you, understand the concepts as well. I can tell hundreds of people anything is wrong, but if I never explain my reasoning, then it might be moot...

Abiqua said:

I am just as curious about the overall theory as the next person, don't construe my criticism as such, merely the driver to further the conversation.....I have background in biochemistry, which explains these processes, I am not arguing they don't happen, rather, what is truly the effect and is more effective than other methods.

I use science and chemistry, because we all at some degree, have been taught these concepts. It gives a common page to two different entities on a different pages, but working towards the same goal, it asks the question why in the organic breakdown sense....

if you want to explain the process, by all means, but don't be angry when I bomb you with questions, not because I expect to ascert my knowledge or whatever, just rather that you, the ambiguous you, understand the concepts as well. I can tell hundreds of people anything is wrong, but if I never explain my reasoning, then it might be moot...

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I wasnt angry sorry it was just your response that made me respond I guess there was no reason to quote it didnt realize there were 7 pages and I was jumping in on an old convo. But I still wanna know if just cutting the stalk is the same

wood780 said:

From what ive read anyway . Woiuld just cutting the stalk and leaving the plant in light for a few days do the same thing ? Thats what im confused with

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In the dark, read up on tobacco curing [some of my fam, still does this in the hills of Appalachia] and it isn't done in direct light....I have seen the drying barns with my own eyes many times....hung high and dry and away from direct light....the smell is hardly like anything else, especially compared to smoking tobacco, which is nasty....

wood780 said:

I wasnt angry sorry it was just your response that made me respond I guess there was no reason to quote it didnt realize there were 7 pages and I was jumping in on an old convo. But I still wanna know if just cutting the stalk is the same

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That's what we are trying to figure out ...if you compared this to the practice of silage, I would say, that cutting it down is equally effective and maybe more so....I just recommend as much ambient temps and as little direct light as possible, any thing else is up for debate, I guess....

EvlMunkee said:

I can't believe that old myth is coming back lol. potheads think up some weird shit
a few of us tried that in the 60s hahaha . It was in some old book about making your pot better. they also talked about blue mold and other things that were supposed to make super pot.
imo it's a waste of time but far be it from me to try to talk anyone out of it.

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I remember the blue mold thing. Bury crappy weed for two weeks and the mold makes the THC "come out"..lol.....

Ok guys, so after reading a lot of debate about it, I decided to go ahead and try pouring boiling water on my plants!

It was a bitch carrying boiling water from the stove to my tent over and over, but my results are AMAZING. I let the girls sit under the light for 3 more days before chopping and setting up the drying tent.

I've been growing for close to 5 years now, and as everyone knows when you run out of weed and you have plants drying, you'll clip a nug to quick dry on a fan so you can taste your product. Usually it's kinda harsh and tastes green. Well after going through the same ordeal THIS time I find the smoke not only smoothe as hell, but it already has the taste usually necessitated by curing.

Here's the smoke report!
Dinafem Blue Cheese:
The BC has a super funky taste,especially on the inhale, which I ASSUMED it would, but it also has a nice sweetness to it too on the finish, most definantly attributed to the blueberry in its lineage.

It has a decent high, more of a headrush, daytime kind of smoke. It gets your mind and activity levels racing, while allowing you to remain focused and aware. It'sa great smoke for right before work, or before going out in public .

The smell, taste, and high together, I give the smoke a 7 out of 10. It's deffinantly good smoke, but its not a knock your socks offindica stone like I like, just me though!

Next we have
G13 PineappleExpress:
This stuff is wild. It actually tastes like a pineapple! It has a very piney, woodsy taste on the inhale, with a sweet, almost more of a melon taste on the exhale. Together though it creates a full pineapple experience. It recommend it just for the taste!

The high is spectacular too. It's got more of that body high I enjoy, and can really put you into a zone after hitting a bowl or two.This is more of a night time, knock you out kind of smoke . It'sreally good for my joint/muscle pains as well as upset stomach. Definantly more of a medicating high

Overall with smell, taste, and high, I'd give it an 8 out of 10. It's definantly a good, medicating high, and not recommended if you plan on going out any time soon haha.

And remember guys, these are just a few quick dry samples only 5 days after chop. But I really believe the boiling method is what allowed me to give such an accurate smoke report this early after chop/dry without any curing. I mean normally buds will have decent smell and taste anyways, but this is a whole new experience. I deffinantly recommend it to anyone! And I can't wait to smoke/ taste my girls after a nice 2-3 week cure!

fuck boiling water.

it's all about driving a rusty nail through the stem!

SCIENCE

UncleBuck said:

fuck boiling water.

it's all about driving a rusty nail through the stem!

SCIENCE

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what about a cross made of garlic

Abiqua said:

what about a cross made of garlic

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Naaa, but if you bury the garlic under the soil 2 weeks before harvest it will make your buds have a stronger smell! The plants Roots absorb the garlic oils and mix it with the buds, it's a pretty cool trick!

Hahaha no but seriously, just try the boiling water thing! I mean if your going to harvest anyways, how terrible could boiling water in the root zone fuck buds up?

It's basically a one time experiment with no downside. Either you try it and it works and your smoke is smoother sooner, OR it doesn't work, and your buds just don't have that smoothe cure taste right after harvest and you'll just have to proceed as you normally would anyways. Honestly the only way to know the truth is to try it and decide for yourselves

Im going to give it ago this time for sure too . I think in a week or two will be pretty close

wood780 said:

Im going to give it ago this time for sure too . I think in a week or two will be pretty close

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make Video put up on youtube nothing their about boiling water in the root zone then post it here

Terry385 said:

make Video put up on youtube nothing their about boiling water in the root zone then post it here

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im not trying to be a youtube star . Kinda scared to post shit like that . I cant see it hurting . It would just kill roots instantly and then it would rely on stored nutes in the leaves . It only a few days so it couldnt hurt . Plus im in week 8 and my plants havent yellowed at all this run I think they will still have nice healthy leaves by harvest plus who wants to watch me water a plant . Lol

wood780 said:

im not trying to be a youtube star . Kinda scared to post shit like that . I cant see it hurting . It would just kill roots instantly and then it would rely on stored nutes in the leaves . It only a few days so it couldnt hurt . Plus im in week 8 and my plants havent yellowed at all this run I think they will still have nice healthy leaves by harvest plus who wants to watch me water a plant . Lol

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i'm just kidding: i don't put stuff on youtube worries me to

Ive posted pics on here before but now I regret it lol I think when your brand new its just exciting to show off and hear good job but now a days im scared to even take pictures with my phone . I know im jist a small personal operation but still

I boiled about a week ago, left the plants under 12/12 for two more days, dried over 5 days in tent. Just smoked a bowl, was pretty smooth, no coughing, no chlorophyll taste. Nirvana Swiss Cheese. Much smoother than it would normally be as I've grown the strain several times.