We are really screwed now!!

Hemlock

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the spaz bit is because you don't understand me, still don't. you are making conclusions that are inaccurate. ALL my posts have meaning. you simply do not understand them. you have come at me several times recently because of this. you just don't get it. "sorry". :weed:

shall we go backwards and start at the "crazy video" i posted that you recently commented on? i'll have to find the thread.
It not up to us to understand you, it incumbant upon you to express your feelings or thoughts properly. Becuase you seem to create a mess wherever you go. All you want to do is call people names

You know I have had a spat with you as well. You just seem so mean spirted.
Since all your post have meaning maybe this one will mean something to you. My dad told me long ago. You know son, when everyone around you seems to be getting along, and YOUR are not getting along with everyone around you, It might not be them.......its you.
 

hanimmal

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It not up to us to understand you, it incumbant upon you to express your feelings or thoughts properly. Becuase you seem to create a mess wherever you go. All you want to do is call people names

You know I have had a spat with you as well. You just seem so mean spirted.
Since all your post have meaning maybe this one will mean something to you. My dad told me long ago. You know son, when everyone around you seems to be getting along, and YOUR are not getting along with everyone around you, It might not be them.......its you.
It really comes down to the point of view and how you gather the information when talking with Jrh. He is just not playing into the ignorance of the conspiracy theorists on this site.

He doesn't seem mean spirited to me but more not putting up with things being ignored or taking the time to define every detail that he is talking about.

It comes down more to people not wanting to (or able to) understand what he is saying. But it is usually correct.
 

Hemlock

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It really comes down to the point of view and how you gather the information when talking with Jrh. He is just not playing into the ignorance of the conspiracy theorists on this site.

He doesn't seem mean spirited to me but more not putting up with things being ignored or taking the time to define every detail that he is talking about.

It comes down more to people not wanting to (or able to) understand what he is saying. But it is usually correct.
Sorry if someone like this guy who gets so mad that MOST people don't understand his position (HIS WORDS), then would it not make sense for him to express himself without personal attacks, or total disregaurd for everyone else position. You and I don't see eye to eye on everything yet we still seem to be able to carry on a dialoge without attacking each other. Should he not also try the same. Should he try to "get along with everyone around him" while still making his point? I think so.
This guy is disgruntled about his own life. Shit if I was that mad all the time I think at some point i'd have to get the rope and chair.
 

hanimmal

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Sorry if someone like this guy who gets so mad that MOST people don't understand his position (HIS WORDS), then would it not make sense for him to express himself without personal attacks, or total disregaurd for everyone else position. You and I don't see eye to eye on everything yet we still seem to be able to carry on a dialoge without attacking each other. Should he not also try the same. Should he try to "get along with everyone around him" while still making his point? I think so.
This guy is disgruntled about his own life. Shit if I was that mad all the time I think at some point i'd have to get the rope and chair.
I am not sure but if I would guess I think that he comes on here as a way to blow off steam and say the type of things he wishes he could say to his students.

I do agree with you that personal attacks end up making people blind to your point. Which if your trying to blow off some steam is a good set up to give people crap for not listening because you laid it out.

That is all a guess, but I see a lot of idiots in my classes that I just want to tell them to read the book before they ask dumbass questions that the professor just talked about 4 minutes ago, and can imagine how much of a pain in the ass it must be for a professor to constantly be interrupted for stupid shit that adds nothing to the conversation simply because they didn't do the homework.

Which is really like what is happening here, people are not really doing the homework to be so sure of their stance and just repeating things that bloggers have 'informed' them of. And then compounding it by googling things they don't know to only find it on another website set up with quotes off the origional.

I really try hard not to attack people and see what their point of view is so that I can talk with them and help them to see the other side of things. I do get frustrated at times and blow up, but usually it is just that people I swear try to not understand things the way they are.

And I get mad because we would have a legit chance to do some good and it gets blown up due to ignorance and political entities smear campaigns that mangle the facts and scare the people that don't know how to dessimilate the information on the internet.

My grandmother is about 80 and she loves the internet now, but I had to help her to see what is actually happening because she was afraid that they were going to tell her she has to die. All because the republicans are trying to get back in power and setting up these fake blogs 'of the people' in order to scare everyone into voting for them next year.
 

NoDrama

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It really comes down to the point of view and how you gather the information when talking with Jrh. He is just not playing into the ignorance of the conspiracy theorists on this site.

He doesn't seem mean spirited to me but more not putting up with things being ignored or taking the time to define every detail that he is talking about.

It comes down more to people not wanting to (or able to) understand what he is saying. But it is usually correct.

Its not JRH we are talking about. its FDD. JRH expresses himself VERY well, I can't complain one bit about him. And its not that Im getting on FDD 's case either, just wish he posted his thoughts more. Its gone too far already I am just going to leave it alone and avoid FDD like the plague from now on.
 

hanimmal

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Its not JRH we are talking about. its FDD. JRH expresses himself VERY well, I can't complain one bit about him. And its not that Im getting on FDD 's case either, just wish he posted his thoughts more. Its gone too far already I am just going to leave it alone and avoid FDD like the plague from now on.
Oops!

Sorry Jrh, thought that they meant you.
 

Hemlock

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I am not sure but if I would guess I think that he comes on here as a way to blow off steam and say the type of things he wishes he could say to his students.

I do agree with you that personal attacks end up making people blind to your point. Which if your trying to blow off some steam is a good set up to give people crap for not listening because you laid it out.

That is all a guess, but I see a lot of idiots in my classes that I just want to tell them to read the book before they ask dumbass questions that the professor just talked about 4 minutes ago, and can imagine how much of a pain in the ass it must be for a professor to constantly be interrupted for stupid shit that adds nothing to the conversation simply because they didn't do the homework.

Which is really like what is happening here, people are not really doing the homework to be so sure of their stance and just repeating things that bloggers have 'informed' them of. And then compounding it by googling things they don't know to only find it on another website set up with quotes off the origional.

I really try hard not to attack people and see what their point of view is so that I can talk with them and help them to see the other side of things. I do get frustrated at times and blow up, but usually it is just that people I swear try to not understand things the way they are.

And I get mad because we would have a legit chance to do some good and it gets blown up due to ignorance and political entities smear campaigns that mangle the facts and scare the people that don't know how to dessimilate the information on the internet.

My grandmother is about 80 and she loves the internet now, but I had to help her to see what is actually happening because she was afraid that they were going to tell her she has to die. All because the republicans are trying to get back in power and setting up these fake blogs 'of the people' in order to scare everyone into voting for them next year.
they both talk falsely now, said the Joker to the thief. (REPUB AND DEMS)

I liked you post until the last sentence. In reality are you saying that the Demo's don't put out misinfo...come on. Personally, I hate both parties but because the Repubs keep there hands off my money thats they way I vote. I gave up on both of them years ago. The demo's believe in weath redistrbution, I don't, I have not drawn a paycheck from an employer since 1994. I don't want give the govt my money that I had to hustle for and bust my ass. I'm no sheep, no one will lead me where I don't wanna go. And I'm sorry but we have seen all this before and it seems to me we are only repeating history.
Outside in the cold distance a wildcat did growl, two rider we're approching and wind began to HOWL....
 

hanimmal

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I liked you post until the last sentence. In reality are you saying that the Demo's don't put out misinfo...come on. Personally, I hate both parties but because the Repubs keep there hands off my money thats they way I vote. I gave up on both of them years ago. The demo's believe in weath redistrbution, I don't, I have not drawn a paycheck from an employer since 1994. I don't want give the govt my money that I had to hustle for and bust my ass. I'm no sheep, no one will lead me where I don't wanna go. And I'm sorry but we have seen all this before and it seems to me we are only repeating history.
Outside in the cold distance a wildcat did growl, two rider we're approching and wind began to HOWL....
Your taking that out of context, I didn't say that the Dem politicians (and pollsters/boosters) are not full of shit. It is just they are the ones in power so don't have as much to lie about. Go back to the Bush years and you can see where we just went off the nutter with all the crap we slung at Bush. It is hard to say that they are eating babies when your the ones in charge of the nursery.

The republican organizers are using the same things that we designed the last 8 years and turning the beast (internet conspiracy theories) onto us.

And yes I consider myself a Dem, if nothing else I am for peoples rights and science, which the Republicans have been styffling for a while now.
 

fdd2blk

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It not up to us to understand you, it incumbant upon you to express your feelings or thoughts properly. Becuase you seem to create a mess wherever you go. All you want to do is call people names

You know I have had a spat with you as well. You just seem so mean spirted.
Since all your post have meaning maybe this one will mean something to you. My dad told me long ago. You know son, when everyone around you seems to be getting along, and YOUR are not getting along with everyone around you, It might not be them.......its you.
that's great and i'll take it to heed, as soon as i hear it from more than half the people. right now i get more pats on the back for being who i am then slaps in the face.

you can't blame me because you don't get it. i'm here just stating my opinion like anyone else. then i get attacked. it would make you cocky as well.

funny how a few posts ago someone said they got it.

why do any of you even care? if my posts make no sense, skip over them.

you all love me to even address the issue.

:hug:
 

fdd2blk

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Sorry if someone like this guy who gets so mad that MOST people don't understand his position (HIS WORDS), then would it not make sense for him to express himself without personal attacks, or total disregaurd for everyone else position. You and I don't see eye to eye on everything yet we still seem to be able to carry on a dialoge without attacking each other. Should he not also try the same. Should he try to "get along with everyone around him" while still making his point? I think so.
This guy is disgruntled about his own life. Shit if I was that mad all the time I think at some point i'd have to get the rope and chair.
are you talking about me? dude, i'm not mad at anyone. happier than i've ever been. i think 75% of the people in the politics section need help, maybe just a hug. otherwise i'm fine.
 

fdd2blk

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Its not JRH we are talking about. its FDD. JRH expresses himself VERY well, I can't complain one bit about him. And its not that Im getting on FDD 's case either, just wish he posted his thoughts more. Its gone too far already I am just going to leave it alone and avoid FDD like the plague from now on.
there ya go again. why do you even care?

express myself like the rest of you do? i'd be embarrassed.
 

Parker

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are you talking about me? dude, i'm not mad at anyone. happier than i've ever been. i think 75% of the people in the politics section need help, maybe just a hug. otherwise i'm fine.
...well...ok... just dont get handsey
 

jrh72582

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Oops!

Sorry Jrh, thought that they meant you.
No worries. It's interesting to sit back and watch others psychoanalyze me. If anything, it helps me to gain perspective. Sometimes, other people can pinpoint our motives better than we can.

I honestly love debate and sometimes I do get heated. It has nothing to do with students - I'm around grad students almost all the time and love their passion and maturity. I did get frustrated with undergraduates quite a bit, but still LOVE teaching.

What I miss during the summer months are my discussions with other colleagues. We get riled up, to say the least. In fact, our students are privy to our mutual like for argument and will oftentimes sit back and watch us engage in discourse. That's why I'm here a LOT during the summer - it's my platform for satisfying the urge to argue. My wife says I need to relax more during the summer months, but oh well. During the year, I have virtually NO free time, so she's probably right. People dog on Ph.D's, thinking our jobs are easy, but it takes a LOT of work, especially in today's 'publish or perish' environment. I have tenure, but refuse to let that fact make me too comfortable and lazy. In short, I love my job, but I work my ASS off.
 

fdd2blk

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i don't like arguing. i do wish to express my opinion though. to me an argument is a "battle". one is trying to "win an argument". i don't want to win. i just want to be heard. i feel a picture or a song can say it much better then i ever could. seems like some people aren't happy unless they are fighting. it's disgusting to me to see sooooo much hatred in this section. politics are fucked. people die from it.
 

hanimmal

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1. I fucking love Lily Allen. There is a lot sexy about her little pudgy brit ass.

2. I cannot wait to get my Phd. I look forward to that type of discussion more than anything else, it keeps me going. And that is why I like these types of boards too.
 

jrh72582

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1. I fucking love Lily Allen. There is a lot sexy about her little pudgy brit ass.

2. I cannot wait to get my Phd. I look forward to that type of discussion more than anything else, it keeps me going. And that is why I like these types of boards too.
Well, then you will love academia, my friend. Debate, ideas, accountability, access, esteem.....

I'm sure you've been to conferences and what not at this point in the game. Get a bunch of erudites together for a weekend, lock them up in a Hilton, and watch them argue day in, day out. During the day - speeches and rebuttals. During the evening - socials, alcohol, and sometimes, snippy fighting and name-calling. It's great! We even get continuing units for attending.
 

Hemlock

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are you talking about me? dude, i'm not mad at anyone. happier than i've ever been. i think 75% of the people in the politics section need help, maybe just a hug. otherwise i'm fine.
:shock:WOW am i talking about you.. yeah Sybil I am. You attacked me in a gun thread and called me everything but a trader. And hell I served,,,,,,,,,,,,, did u? doubt it,,,,, and your sons service doesn't count. May God bless him and keep him safe BTW...
 

Hemlock

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i don't like arguing. i do wish to express my opinion though. to me an argument is a "battle". one is trying to "win an argument". i don't want to win. i just want to be heard. i feel a picture or a song can say it much better then i ever could. seems like some people aren't happy unless they are fighting. it's disgusting to me to see sooooo much hatred in this section. politics are fucked. people die from it.

LOL...Man how many of you are there inside your mind...you love to fight I have watched you.
 
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