what kind of 12 crappy plants produce 2.5oz of mmj seriously? WTH

Perhaps you are right, however, i will trust what the lawyer said, he is an actual cannabis lawyer, mathew able. You may have heard of him. I will probably incorperate the keeping teh stems in tact idea though, thats not a bad touch. I dont deny that LE can give me shit, however i trust that i wont do any real time or under go any real punishment with the sign idea. I also am not blind to the fact that anything can happen, so who knows, but one thing i do know is that its a waste of anybodys time to invest a ton of money into a big caregiver set up to grow 2.5 oz per patient. I would also use common sense and not have a nice pretty display of 2 lbs curing, it would be tucked away and hopefully, with my paperwork, they would come, count the plants and bounce, and not feel the need to tear apart my entire house for the possibility that i am holding more product than they can see. Cops know that there is a decent size grow operation on every block, and i will take my chances that they wont invest a ton of time and money to stick a caregiver with big charges, expecially after obama' s lazza fare speach about leaving caregivers alone. Of course at the end of the day when it comes to the LE, you never know, but at this point, i feel relativley safe doing what i am doing.

I have epilesy.Would it be difficult to get accepted?http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=3391
Is that all the information in full?Patients are also offered legal protection if they have a chronic or debilitating disease or medical condition or treatment of said condition that produces 1 or more of the following:seizures, including but not limited to those characteristic of epilepsy; or severe and persistent muscle spasms.
12 plants or 2.5oz(70.8 grams)?
It says or,What if I had 6plants & 1.5oz of smoke?
What if I grow 12 plants but they exceed 2.5oz?Kind of hard to grow a single plant all the way through the correct way and get just 5.906grams.
5.906grams(.2083 oz)x12=2.5oz =70.8grams
28.3495231(1oz) / 8 = 3.54369039grams .5oz=14.7grams
i don't know the exact average,but im sure 12 plants easily exceed what the law has the limit on dry weight.I know you all know how to do math lol.Im just pointing out the plants will be shity & not be ready for harvest to grow 12 and get 2.5oz dry weight.

you can get legal for epilesy, I know people that are, talk to your doctor and if he wont budge go to a mmj doctor. As stated the way to follow the law is you harvest only 1 plant at a time and hope to god its under 2.5 ounces lol - hang the whole plant method and not cut your plant into peices because they will try to claim each hanging peice as a plant, while your plant is drying it is assumed that it counts as a plant.

thats not true, it must have roots to be considered a plant, a hanging plant, or especially a hanging but is not considered a plant in Michigan.

axl said:

thats not true, it must have roots to be considered a plant, a hanging plant, or especially a hanging but is not considered a plant in Michigan.

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maybe you should talk to actual LEO or a prosecutor...

some will tell you: An unrooted cutting is a plant, A hanging bud or a hanging plant is a plant, there is nothing in between defined....its a plant or its usable marijuana one or the other. You can go ahead and argue that in court but I am just letting you know what the prosecuters are saying and the cops, this is how some of them will prosecute you. Currently there is no legal method that determines when something becomes a medical marijuana plant and thus able to be counted.

Mind you - Not all prosecutors - Our prosecutor does not prosecute anyone who claims medical reason whatsoever, even if they don't have a card(he says because of ad and the fact that you can get a card after the fact), and to date no prosecutors have prosecuted someone based on this yet but some say that they would if the situation presented itself.


The truth is - it is all up in the air right now - Just hope you get a good judge and lawyer if your busted.

To be extra safe: FIND OUT WHAT YOUR PROSECUTOR AND PD ARE SAYING ABOUT MEDICAL MJ.

Too Shay. Good advice

what kind of plants??

I think you have your logic wrong my friend. You, the grower and caretaker of the plants.. are responsible as to how healthy and how much you will yield in the end. It's not all genetics.. its not the plants fault. You had a major play.. in having such a shitty yield.

Just thought I'd let ya in on that. If you knew how to properly grow marijuana.. you would of had a much bigger yield my friend. So, again, you must have done something wrong somewhere along the line during the grow. Period.

Why?

Well, because if you were to give me 12 plants.. all females.. I would have an ending yield of 5x what you got out of the 12 plants. So, again.. your responsible for the shitty yield.. not the plant. I would suggest you keep trying though.. you'll get better as time goes by.

good luck next time.

peace.

ganjaluvr said:

what kind of plants??

I think you have your logic wrong my friend. You, the grower and caretaker of the plants.. are responsible as to how healthy and how much you will yield in the end. It's not all genetics.. its not the plants fault. You had a major play.. in having such a shitty yield.

Just thought I'd let ya in on that. If you knew how to properly grow marijuana.. you would of had a much bigger yield my friend. So, again, you must have done something wrong somewhere along the line during the grow. Period.

Why?

Well, because if you were to give me 12 plants.. all females.. I would have an ending yield of 5x what you got out of the 12 plants. So, again.. your responsible for the shitty yield.. not the plant. I would suggest you keep trying though.. you'll get better as time goes by.

good luck next time.

peace.

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Wow maybe you should learn to read my crappy writing or read past the title of the first post? you just spent "5x" the time writing that then you did reading this thread

Your lucky your in michigan, in nevada you can only have 1 ounce in your posession and 3 mature plants and 4 immature plants. I'm not sure how they define a mature and immature plant. And there are still 36 other states out there that have no form of medical mj. you have it pretty good. With a good perpetual harvest schedual and 12 plants you should be able to pull 2.5 oz a week and that seems like a reasonable amount to me. Maybe one day they will totaly legalize it, but untill then count your blessings that you can do what you do.

deprave said:

Wow maybe you should learn to read my crappy writing or read past the title of the first post? you just spent "5x" the time writing that then you did reading this thread

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*yawn*...
I wish you nothing but the best of luck my friend.

buh bye.

ganjaluvr said:

*yawn*...
I wish you nothing but the best of luck my friend.

buh bye.

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your post is off-topic - I am not saying I got 2.5 ounces from 12 plants - I am saying it is unrealistic for anyone to ever get 2.5 ounces from 12 plants..or even one or two plants to be honest..of course the answer is perpetual harvest or harvest one plant at a time... I am aware of that - this thread is about how silly it is that we have 12 plants with a 2.5 ounce limit..what if we yield 2.54 ounces off one plant very possible even with a small plant. Of course send the answer is to send 0.04 into your lungs or stomach but that is not the point

wow ganja being a dick much? have you read the thread at all?

mrboots said:

Your lucky your in michigan, in nevada you can only have 1 ounce in your posession and 3 mature plants and 4 immature plants. I'm not sure how they define a mature and immature plant. And there are still 36 other states out there that have no form of medical mj. you have it pretty good. With a good perpetual harvest schedual and 12 plants you should be able to pull 2.5 oz a week and that seems like a reasonable amount to me. Maybe one day they will totaly legalize it, but untill then count your blessings that you can do what you do.

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Believe me I am very grateful and blessed

Has any one actually talked to their local PD about MMJ.
I'm contemplating going down to the station to talk to some one but am weary about what I'm getting my self into.

Fluxcap said:

Has any one actually talked to their local PD about MMJ.
I'm contemplating going down to the station to talk to some one but am weary about what I'm getting my self into.

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I would advise you not to do that, I think a anonymous or semi-anonymous phone call is a better approach - call me a wussy if you want but cops job is to prosecute you and uphold the law - IT IS NOT to protect and serve, that is not how most of them see it, so I really doubt they will be all smiles and giggles with you - they would likely try to get you on something or start an investigation on you - maybe not thou it depends....

One time I was mugged at gunpoint and beaten pretty badly by some thugs, I went to the police station and what they did was take me to an interogation room and try to interogate me into confessing to a crime, they did not care that the people who had just robbed me only minutes ago could only be at the most 10 miles away running around with loaded guns - they did not care for my medical condition. (which was not that bad) - because of the fact I had 300$ in cash taken and I was a young 18 year old kid they assumed it was a drug deal gone bad.

one helpfull thing just google medical marijuana in your county you can often find some local news interviews and things of that nature with prosecutors and cops.

I hear you deprave.

Why make your self a target, forfeitures scare the shit out of me.

i dont know why you guys even bother with medical marijuana cards. you guys are too scared to even talk about it then it must not be that legal. basically they just have a list of all you people that whenever they feel like doing a big drug sweep they could bust all of you. and yes that could happen the federal gov does not give a shit about your marijuana cards.

they dont have a list of card holders, that is not true. Yes i am sure the feds could probably get whatever they want, but people get busted all the time, because the cops dont know that they are patients, because they cant go on some data base to see. The feds also dont give a shit about small time basement operations. Once you exceed 99 plants then watch your back, but its not legal in the state to do that either.

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i dont know why you guys even bother with medical marijuana cards. you guys are too scared to even talk about it then it must not be that legal. basically they just have a list of all you people that whenever they feel like doing a big drug sweep they could bust all of you. and yes that could happen the federal gov does not give a shit about your marijuana cards.

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Alright well you go have a chit chat with your friendly neighborhood police and see how that works out for you - don't be suprised when you end up in some interogation room with some bald sweaty fat guy, a mirror, a hot light shining down on you, and a cup of water while they try to get you on something or frame you for something.

Police are not your friends I dont care who you are, their job is to charge people with crimes.

Why do we bother with medical marijuana cards? To protect us from the bald sweaty fat guy in a robe

andar said:

i dont know why you guys even bother with medical marijuana cards. you guys are too scared to even talk about it then it must not be that legal. basically they just have a list of all you people that whenever they feel like doing a big drug sweep they could bust all of you. and yes that could happen the federal gov does not give a shit about your marijuana cards.

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Your ignorant