Whats wrong with my seedling? ( PICS )

heat can definatly be a facor bro i had the same thing happen but it was nute burn also lay off he nutes for another week or so

hey seedlings got burned or something cant keep heat down any suggestions

i havent been feeding mine nutes yet.. well after i flushed i put a teaspoon of whatever came with bubblepknics which recommends 5 teaspoons.
oh no root rot that will suck lol is soil easier to grow or what.

A body of mine uses soil a he can 4 to 5 hours a night watering, and if something goes wrong it can take days to correct..Once u get a hold on things you will see faster bigger yields.. but that is just my opion..

for your germinating problem you might want to just spray a mist onto a paper towel..then you put it in a (try dark)container.....and just check it every now and then t make sure its (NOT DRY)...ASLONG AS IT HAS MOISTURE IT SHOULD GERMINATE WELL.....AND FOR YOUR SEEDLING PROBLEM YOU MIGHT WANNA TRY SOME (JUSS ANY GOOD SOIL)MIRACLE GROW SOIL....ANY KING OF MIRACLE GROW SHOULD WORK WELL WITH BUD PLANTS..

Blah, iether im worried to much about my plants or something im doing is really wrong.. thought this was supposed to be simple..

Well today my plants are starting to rust yet again on the nice big green leafs.. also all of my plants are curling upwards now too.. i bought a digital ph tester and trying to keep my ph between 5.5 and 6.2 this itself is a chore.. i add the ph up or down and it flys one way then back the other.

post some pics in a sec. but the plants just dont look healthy.

also germinated 2 more seeds both had tails stuck them into rockwool and watered the rockwool, put them in a tuppaware container and into the dark. been 3 days and still no sign of the germinated seed.. could these seeds just be bad seeds? i got 20 of them any only maby 6 sprouted out.



curling leafs.. not so much rusting..


and then this one..



has curling leafs AND rusting and its getting worste by the day.

Ah!
New pics look like Magnesium def to me.

Root enviroment too wet/cold? (Should be 75 F/24 C)

Acidic feed/soil? (Keep that ph above 5.5)

Keep your air temp around 75 F, are they still in the furnace room?

If you've only just started using nutes then I doubt its a toxcity problem and Deficiencies usually start at the bottom of the plant and work there way up.

Keep nutes at low stength for a while.

Oh and slightly alarmed about what you might be doing with your ph. If You try dropping it/raising it and it goes to far empty your res and start again. DO NOT add ph down and then add ph up! It is seriously not good for your plants and a precursor to all sorts of problems.

I might have read your post wrong so If you were not doing this then I appologise.

I grew with a deep flood and drain system for 2 years and it took me about 3 crops b4 I really felt comfortable with hydro. Soil is definately more forgiving in my experience. But once you get a hang of your system you will get better results. Don't give up too soon. If you start to find it too disheartening then maybe grow some in soil along side your hydro.

temps seem fine.. the ph bounces all over the place constantly so yah i have been adding UP and then down constantly.. for MG deficiency which im starting to think thats what it is.. what can i get and how much should i be adding?

just get something thats iether pure for MG or something with MG? and my leafs are going crusty/rusty from the bottoms up..

and yah im renovating my house so i cant move it out of the furnace room until the window installers finish up in like a month. then ill have a full room to move it too.

EDIT: also if you want more pics i can take some of my other plants they ALL are rusting like this... MG def probably the problem??

also i just added half a teaspon of sea salt.. it says sodium 400mg per 1/4 tea spoon.. umm is this even the right stuff? for MG

Not at all sure about sea salt???

Epsom salts what you need for MG def, add at a rate of 2 teaspoons per gallon of water. There should be enough Mg in your nutes tho??? Wat brand are u using?

As for the ph adjustments use up or down, not both together. I would fill my res with water and nutes, mix thoroughly and let it stand for 30 secs then take your ph test. To adjust the ph use add a small amount of up/down give the res a stir again wait 30 secs then ph test again repeat this until your ph is at the desired level but remember the trick is to add small amounts of down/up each time that way your less likely to go flying of from your desired ph.

Theres a really good video somewhere online from esoteric hydro Ill fish it out and post it. Its definatley worth you watching the bit about ph and Ec.

Hydroponics Video - Propagation

Hydroponics Video - Hydroponics Systems & Growth Cycles

Take a look at these, the propagation one give good tips on use of ph adjustments.

What up... if your leaves are curling it could be mag def. what kind of nutients are you using.. I use Botanicare pro series, which call for cal mag , look it up it help my curling leaves .. But if they are showing growth esp. new growth .. every thing is goin to alright...

well i pulled all my lights down and turned on the HPS + 3 42W CFL see if this helps..

anyone know if maby mineral water has no MG in it? 1 of my 2 tubs has the curling leafs.. and the other tub has curling leafs+ rusting pretty bad on the plants.. both tubs seem to have purple stems.

im going to flush all the water out and then put in more mineral water.. is this bad water maby? i could just use tap water and ph balance it i guess.

also i have 1 big fan and 2 small fans blowing on them.. does this cause curling leafs or drying out of the plants? and ya still in my furnace room ill update pics soon. but there getting taller cause of the lights being up alot higher.



and the other one. both getting pretty bad on the curling leafs.. if i redo all the water and put 0 nutes in it.. will they improve? or are nutes needed.. maby im screwing that part up.



hands in the pics for size lol.


wow im not sure if im seeing stuff but i see these "hairs" think it might be female?? i cant get my camera to take any good pics cause my screen broke so i cant even see what im taking pics of.. but i see these hairs on 2-3 spots of the plant all along the stem area.. could it be female or is this something else..


also about low ryder 2 seeds... can you clone them? i mean ya they will be tiny and all but i wouldnt mind trying it out..??..




the hairs im talking about arent those green looking horns.. but the yellow curly thing. to the right of the horn lol.

yes dude, your drowning them, i did the same thing my very first time, they'll turn yellow all over, droop, and die.........hard to say if they can come back from it at this point, use your discretion, i know you dont want to give up on them believe me i know, but sometimes you gotta chalk up your losses and move on, try again, less water

Congratulations! tis Female

Did you check out those links???

You need to be using nutes mate, as long as you dont use too much then there should be plenty of MG available to your plants in the feed. Your plants are at an age where they need nutes, if you feed with just water now then they will just suffer with more deficiencies.

And IMO your plants are doing just fine DO NOT throw them out! They are experiencing a minor deficiency, which, if you stick at it, you will soon learn to remedy. If you throw them now you will learn nothing!

And the differences in the new pictures you have posted and the old ones shows improvement, doesn't it? Sure you have a bit of leaf curl going on there but I cant see any new rust spots.

i havent had time to check out the links but i will today i got nothing to do.

the only nutes i really have right now is the stuff that came with it.. called dyna grow 7-9-5

the plants are really growing taller, thats only because ive moved the lights up.. but honestly they are getting worste.. in the rust department anyways. the tub on the left seems not as bad but the tub on the right all the plants are rusting.. its starting at the very bottom of the plants and working its way up.

pics in a min. going to flush it all today i think

alright this is the lowryder.. bottom leafs rusting and actually the top leafs before they start rusting i get little white kinda circles i can see before they rust a few days later.



and then here is the newer seedlings i planted a couple weeks later.. bottom leafs getting rust.. and the one in the background you can see on the big leaf its rusting pretty bad..



edit: well hm.. i just stuck a digital humidity tester in that room i grabbed from home depot.. and its only reading 23% this cause the problems?? also the 2 thermometers one reads 77 degrees the other 73 degrees go figure lol.

ya that humidty tester been in there for about 10 mins and still reads 22% humidity.. is this the problem?? going to go buy a humidifier right now.

Ok, Dyna grow is fine how much have you been putting in your system? it should say 2-3 tsp on non re-circulating systems.

B4 use empty your res watch that link on propagation and all should become clear regarding nutes and ph.

I would aim for only 1 tsp per gallon at first, then, when you check the EC next, you should notice it has dropped dramatically (They look hungry). Do Not add more nutes till the EC has dropped by say half then you will know that they are actually using it.

Good luck.

Im sorry mate but Im gonna complicate things a little further!

Your lowriders will be wanting to flower rapidly in a week or so you should really get some nutrients designed for blooming. Dyna grow is fine for the growth stage but you wont get the same results in flowereing unless you get something with a higher potassium and phosphorous content. Dyna bloom will do fine

lol great more things to do haha. its already hard enough to find any nutes in this town. well i just plugged in a cheapo humidifier do they always heat up water before they blow? it was only $10 so i grabbed it. but that will probably take my temps up a bit again.

other question if anyone knows can you clone a lowryder?? i guess yeild wont b that important this time around as just figuring this all out.

If your talking about a humidifier that heats water to make steam then don't use it! Your temp is gonna rocket

Im 99.9% positive you cant clone lowrider 2, I haven't tried but everything about them suggests that you cant. By the time you have anything to clone it will be flowering for starters. You could use 1 male and 1 female to get a small seed crop tho??? Read up on breeding first tho

As for the bloom nutrients, can you not by something online???

ya it was a damn heating humidifier and so cheap it blows out nearly nothing.. im sitting at 20% humidity right now.. im wondering cause its winter now and its in furnace room that its sucking all the moisture out the furnace too.

added some more dyna grow.. i got some walmart crap called bloom builder.. will that work? 10-54-10
by the time i order online it will be 3 weeks to get here usually. lowryder plant smells now but none of the others do.