Why do so many people struggle to grow auto flowers?

Grow Monster

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That's the first claim from folks who cannot accept truth.
I will run it again and max out to full bloom. I don't mind. In fact I hope u are all correct and I like even more next go at it. 3rd time maybe the charm or genetics might act differently. We will see. I just enjoy growing and wanted to share something I found to be a quick fix and gas. In my top 5 of what I've grown. I will do real time grow.
 

Brettman

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I will run it again and max out to full bloom. I don't mind. In fact I hope u are all correct and I like even more next go at it. 3rd time maybe the charm or genetics might act differently. We will see. I just enjoy growing and wanted to share something I found to be a quick fix and gas. In my top 5 of what I've grown. I will do real time grow.
Now that’s the right attitude! Remember to tag me I would love to see what you think of a longer flower.
 

DrOgkush

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Why on round earth would you grow your plant that you love the quality so much of to our exceptions? You said it yourself. We’re the ones missing out.
 

MATTYMATT726

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I will run it again and max out to full bloom. I don't mind. In fact I hope u are all correct and I like even more next go at it. 3rd time maybe the charm or genetics might act differently. We will see. I just enjoy growing and wanted to share something I found to be a quick fix and gas. In my top 5 of what I've grown. I will do real time grow.
You realize that you are arguing with some people who don't even grow autos? Why bother? Doesn't matter what it looked like. You said you liked it when smoking/vaping, so who cares? A user named MikeBuds grew Sweet Seeds Carmel Mandarin(something extremely close, can't remember name) here in 18' and they looked much more ripe than yours and were 62 days if i remember. They were definitely less than 70. There are few autos that will be at the "standard" peak. Window that soon. Most will really need 90 to 100 days no matter what the breeders say.
 

Letstrip

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A) mostly new growers
B) no time to fix an issue
Just did a Crystal dwarf from freedom of seeds. It was only 65 days from seed to harvest. Only 28 grams dry weight. Imo definitely worth it. One if the best auto strains I've grown for flavor, potency and bag appeal.
A new grower with one issue (watering, nutes, deficiency) would be overwhelmed and might miss small window to fix.
Either way, those are gorgeous buds! Frosty and lookin tasty. Considering how many rubbish autos ive seen, well done. I'm sure they could have filled out a little if you really wanted but who cares, that's how you like it. Is that indoor grow our outdoors and what did you do in terms of feeding?
 

VincenzioVonHook

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I must be going okay then. Smallest yield off an auto so far has been 2.5 Oz, and most averaged around a qp and a few close to a half p. Most recent flipped itself into flower around day 17 though so it's always a gamble. Won't get much off this one.

Looking like I'll have better luck this run. At around day 26 and only ones popped pre flowers so far.

My mates tagging along trying to grow autos and the last lot ended up 4" tall flowering and got less than 7g off two plants. Was due to basically using wood chips as a medium exclusively...
 
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Grow Monster

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Either way, those are gorgeous buds! Frosty and lookin tasty. Considering how many rubbish autos ive seen, well done. I'm sure they could have filled out a little if you really wanted but who cares, that's how you like it. Is that indoor grow our outdoors and what did you do in terms of feeding?
Indoor grow. Spider farmer sp2000 soil/coco mix. 2.3x2.3 tent
just started using gaja green nutes.
I will never go back to synthetic. Its the best especially when u got a bunch of plants at different stages. Just ph water and accommodate them all. No worry of rt ppm to feed at what stage.
 

VincenzioVonHook

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Indoor grow. Spider farmer sp2000 soil/coco mix. 2.3x2.3 tent
just started using gaja green nutes.
I will never go back to synthetic. Its the best especially when u got a bunch of plants at different stages. Just ph water and accommodate them all. No worry of rt ppm to feed at what stage.
Im with ya when it comes to easy options. I took it one step further and used a $3 slow release from the supermarket. Like an 8:4:10. These are at 26 days ATM. The one in the bigger pot is using literal ground soil mixed with perlite as well. As budget as you can get.
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This one's using 12:2:14 slow release beads and some $5 cacti potting mix lol. Nothing but quality here.
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I have gathered this strange obsession with handicapping my plants with the worst mediums and feed lol.
 
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Nutty sKunK

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Now that’s the right attitude! Remember to tag me I would love to see what you think of a longer flower.
Dont know if you grow autos but they can get stony as shit as they mature in the harvest window. Also seem to amber faster. Perhaps it’s the ruderalis trait? The degradation of trichomes seems to happen quicker. Just my observation

I would’ve let it run a wee bit longer but that’s my opinion.

And opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one :)
 

Grow Monster

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Im with ya when it comes to easy options. I took it one step further and used a $3 slow release from the supermarket. Like an 8:4:10. These are at 26 days ATM. The one in the bigger pot is using literal ground soil mixed with perlite as well. As budget as you can get.
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This one's using 12:2:14 slow release beads and some $5 cacti potting mix lol. Nothing but quality here.
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I have gathered this strange obsession with handicapping my plants with the worst mediums and feed lol.
Wow. Impressed. Leave your recipe for feeding veg/bloom. Gaja green is expensive so I'd try a run with cheaper option. I've just started reusing medium which saves a bunch also. Alot of folks do so much extra when water, nutes and light done rt is the most important. Its a weed. Im on a hunt for great genetics rt now but im not gonna pay $50 a bean either. budget grows can be challenging and rewarding.
 

Grow Monster

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Dont know if you grow autos but they can get stony as shit as they mature in the harvest window. Also seem to amber faster. Perhaps it’s the ruderalis trait? The degradation of trichomes seems to happen quicker. Just my observation

I would’ve let it run a wee bit longer but that’s my opinion.

And opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one :)
I think you're spot on. Didn't wanna miss my harvest window like last run with this strain so I did pull her a bit early. Yet she still pleasantly surprised me with the quality genetics. Next run with her i will try to go by her ripeness look opposed to trichomes and see if it suits me better. I try to listen to everyone's opinion cus i know there's a ton of ways to skin a cat. Ultimately i gotta pick what works for me and my set up. But the experience is golden! From u guys and my hands on. Everyone that weighs in with positive input even if in disagreement is what makes the community whole.
 

DrOgkush

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so why did you go back and forth with everyone that told you it could go longer? Now your saying you pulled early? I’m so lost.

Just having fun? Lol
 

Grow Monster

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so why did you go back and forth with everyone that told you it could go longer? Now your saying you pulled early? I’m so lost.

Just having fun? Lol
I went 9 weeks bloom last run with her and didn't like it and this time I found a sweet spot I like at 6 1/2. Next run I will try to let it ripen more to see it gets any better. Either way it's a lesson.
 

Grow Monster

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Out of curiosity do more experienced growers go by overall look of a plant, trichomes, plant age or all the above when they decide its ready or ripe enough?
Personally I've been fooled a few times waiting for the "ripe look" and got sleep medicine and nanners so I started using microscope and trying different trichome stages.
 

DrOgkush

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Genetics determine traits. Harvest window has minor influence on buzz. All running longer does is convert your THC to cbn.
which is a lazier effect. Andmaybe a different balance in terpenes. Which I don’t believe in terpenes anymore anyhow. 6 and half weeks flower. I can’t say in my entire life. Have I ever heard of a 6 weeks flowering strain. But like I said in previous post. What matters, Is what you like. Don’t worry about us ass nuggets It’s your crop. We just make suggestions. That’s all. Some are dicks about it. But that’s the fame of RIU.
But to answer your question. I wait for all them hairs to orange up and all those calyx’s to swell up. I want my flower to look smokable right off the plant, I then look at the trichs on the fresh swollen calyx’s. Ones I know have never been touched. Or damaged. Then I decide My window.. When you dry. It shouldnt shrivel up much. But become a firm sponge.
 

Grow Monster

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My buddy just looks at it and says, "when its ready u just know". I will be there someday. I've had some gd runs but I got areas i know can be improved and harvest time is one.
I tried chopn one down in 3 stages 1 week apart but didn't see much difference in anything overall. So it alludes me.
 

midwestnugzz

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Out of curiosity do more experienced growers go by overall look of a plant, trichomes, plant age or all the above when they decide its ready or ripe enough?
Personally I've been fooled a few times waiting for the "ripe look" and got sleep medicine and nanners so I started using microscope and trying different trichome stages.
I haven't used my jeweler's loupe since last year. It's just so hard to figure out what you are looking at (sugar leaf, bud, damaged trichome head).

My autos will consistently need watered every 36-48 hours in flowering. Once they can go 60+ hours without water (anywhere from 70-91 days), that's when I start thinking about harvest. Around this time I usually will start to see an amber hue to the bud sites too. I feel like I've got a pretty good system down.
 

DrOgkush

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i do the same shit. I start realizing they’re drinking less and less. To a point where it seems where they’re not drinking at all. Easy in coco. Not my harvest point. But I start checking around at that point
 

Grow Monster

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Yeah they do drink less when close to harvest. That's when I dim the light a bit. I don't flush cus I use organic nutes. I will be attempting to go by the look of the plant this time and put the microscope away.
Im taking off the training wheels! Lol
 
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