Why North Korea is more afraid of us then we are of them

ttystikk

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this is quite a romantic memory...

some of us have family that went crazy because of that fucking war..... we better stay out of that hell hole... we already LOST once...
We didn't lose.

We didn't get the result we wanted, but a thriving and prosperous South Korea is testament to the fact that we did not lose that war.

Yours is far from the only family with such memories. I'd very much like to avoid any kind of repeat and I'm pretty sure most Korean veterans and their families feel the same way.
 

SneekyNinja

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Not to those of us who are informed, no.

It turns out there are plenty of people who are believing the mass media's drumbeat of 'be afraid!', however.

Make no mistake; WE are the belligerent ones; hundreds of aircraft including B-1 bombers flying laps past the DMZ. A naval presence that makes Fleet Week look weak off both coasts. Tens of thousands of American, Korean and even other nation's troops doing extended maneuvers along the border.

We don't have to do any of it. We could call off the multi billion dollar exercise in a show of good faith- a sign that we're willing to negotiate.

Sec State Tillerson has offered to open talks, 'about anything, even the weather'. It's pretty disingenuous to say that with all the hardware we're throwing around the place.

There aren't a lot of good options left and Chump's diplomacy is reducing even that number;
  1. We back down and look weak
  2. We ask the Chinese to intervene and look ineffectual
  3. We start a war and kill at least hundreds of thousands for no good reason
  4. ...? That's really kinda it. We can't force them to talk and we've given them zero incentive to.
I'm not defending North Korea's choice to break the Non Proliferation Treaty. The reality is that they clearly feel that their backs are against the wall and they have no choice. This is precisely what makes the situation so dangerous.

Kim Jong Un and his regime knows they're hated by almost every nation on Earth and they have seen the other 50 odd examples of what happens when America doesn't like a government. America has given itself the 'right' to fuck with other governments and we've done it whether the target was oppressive or not, democratically elected or not. Frankly, there is no international law that grants America or any other nation the right to manipulate the internal affairs of other nations- save the prerogative of force. In other words, no matter how it's been spun for domestic consumption, America does not occupy any moral high ground, nevermind credibility.

Kim may well keep lobbing missiles. He's smart enough to know that if one lands on foreign soil or hurts anyone, he risks annihilation. We can be sure that for all his bluster, he won't start a fight. Unfortunately, the Chump and his band of idiots think the potential costs are acceptable.

So who's the dangerous one, really?
Cut off the head and the snake dies...
 

zeddd

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Lol, your hyperbolic scare mongering would be more effective if you managed to cobble your thoughts together into something coherent
 

zeddd

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I enjoy receiving ad hominem attacks, the antagonist loses. Tty have you ever studied logic?
It’s remarkable how many logical fallacies appear in your oeuvre
 

ttystikk

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I seriously doubt it. I think the situation is a useful foil to make the flag-happy boobs who support Trump have that chest-swell that bullies feel when they abuse people smaller or weaker than them. But I do not think that Trump would survive a war with Korea. I don't think those in charge of the nuclear missiles would fire them if he ordered them. If he did order them I feel pretty confident that somebody would find a straight jacket in the West Wing and he would soon find himself in a rubber room at Walter Reed.

I also think Trump knows this and that the risk of an actual shooting war is much lower than most perceive it to be. This is a con. A con for stupid people (his supporters). There is a deep state. It is made up of public servants (both Republicans and Democrat as well as those Questioning) who actually care about this country and Trump has not replaced near enough of them to get away with something this dumb.
I think Senator Lindsey Graham should have an adjoining cell.

'30% chance of war with North Korea', he says. What a piece of work that guy is.
 

ttystikk

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Lol, your hyperbolic scare mongering would be more effective if you managed to cobble your thoughts together into something coherent
Please show us where I've engaged in 'hyperbolic scare mongering'?

Since when is an objective examination into the motivations of the opposite side scare mongering?

You wanna hear scare mongering? Have a listen to Senator Lindsey Graham;
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/12/lindsey-graham-war-north-korea-trump/548381/

We'll be waiting for your expert analysis, zero.
 
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