Xanax

MrEDuck

MrEDuck

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Often when a brand manufacturer starts making a generic it's the original production line but they swap the dyes at the end of the line.
I don't know how strictly they're monitored but I know that every major pharma company does a ton of in house analysis to ensure that products meet their specifications.
I knew a guy who was a tech for Roxane until he got caught performing bioassays on samples as well. He had stories about being handed grams of full agonists so he could do tests that required < 50mg. Then he fucked up and dosed himself with an antagonist at work.
 
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ilikecheetoes

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why buy brain drugs illegally? You can go to any doctor and tell them you need zanys and theyll give them to you. They hand those shits out like candy.
 
MrEDuck

MrEDuck

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It's actually not that easy and the ones who will do it often charge an arm and a leg and won't take your insurance.
 
rory420420

rory420420

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Yea my buddys wife has to test each batch and random pills from the end production..they all have to be identical..I've heard rumors that disrupted/imperfect batches are sold to other company's for reprocessing,although that info didn't come from her,just the internet..so it has to be true then!..lol
 
ShazMo09

ShazMo09

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Fuck fellas...I was trippin...250 at $5 a brick is 50 o_O...My bad everyone! Think I had to many bongsmilie when I was speaking with this fella :bigjoint:
 
ShazMo09

ShazMo09

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ilikecheetoes said:
why buy brain drugs illegally? You can go to any doctor and tell them you need zanys and theyll give them to you. They hand those shits out like candy.
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Not if your on an opiate program...First thing they think is look at this ex-addict still wanting to get high. Sterotypical motherfuckers :( I genuinlly want these thing to bring my anxiety down.
 
ShazMo09

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rory420420 said:
They also take in consideration your health...benzos and opiates are a deadly mix.
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Yeh I know man...I do understand where the doc is coming from. How many times would he have seen people on programs come in trying to abuse the system for the wrong reasons. When I started messing with benzos I fell in love...Just sometimes I literally wanted to pull my fucking skin off the anxiety gets that bad. And once an addict, always an addict...So I know what everybody means when they say be careful. I honestly don't abuse them though...I got 10 last Tueday and I still have 7 and 1/4 left so I dont eat them for the sake of eating them...
 
clint308

clint308

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I went to docs saying i had axiety and panic attacks and they gave xanax strait away , I think i use to get a pack of 30 or so for around 10-15 bucks
But i did some research and found out its harder to get off xanax than like crack,heroin and all other drugs
So i i slowly got of them,got anxiety again but worse , then i got put on Efexor-xr and all is sweet
and this is in Aus
 
canndo

canndo

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Benzos are frightening when it comes to addiction. some of the longer lasting ones can take months of agony to get off of. Some will cause convulsions when you try, the taper is long long long, what is recommended is that you switch from the shorter ones like xanax to a longer one like valium and then cut your dose by about 10 percent every three weeks or so. What is so frightening to me is the lenght of time it take for the withdrawals to kick in. sometimes you can go for days without a valium and think "oh, no problem, these are easy", and then a day or so later you get smacked. Treat those little candies with real respect and be very careful, apparently some folks can get withdrawals even from using theaputic doses for as little as a month. I've heard people who know say they would rather come off of a big heroin jones than off of 40 mg a day of valium - and I believe them.
 
rory420420

rory420420

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Wow..I never did em enough I guess..I was booting 10s for a few weeks to compensate for shitty drugs in oklahoma(methadone wafers at best)..but I never got withdrawls..but I honestly can say vailum was the more abused of that class of drugs for me..had all the xanax and colonopin ect I wanted..never took em..clouded up my nods!
 
MrEDuck

MrEDuck

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canndo said:
Benzos are frightening when it comes to addiction. some of the longer lasting ones can take months of agony to get off of. Some will cause convulsions when you try, the taper is long long long, what is recommended is that you switch from the shorter ones like xanax to a longer one like valium and then cut your dose by about 10 percent every three weeks or so. What is so frightening to me is the lenght of time it take for the withdrawals to kick in. sometimes you can go for days without a valium and think "oh, no problem, these are easy", and then a day or so later you get smacked. Treat those little candies with real respect and be very careful, apparently some folks can get withdrawals even from using theaputic doses for as little as a month. I've heard people who know say they would rather come off of a big heroin jones than off of 40 mg a day of valium - and I believe them.
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I've never had a benzo habit for more than few weeks and that sucked. I had a friend who was on them for over twenty years kick from 50mg. It was a bad 15 months.

rory420420 said:
Wow..I never did em enough I guess..I was booting 10s for a few weeks to compensate for shitty drugs in oklahoma(methadone wafers at best)..but I never got withdrawls..but I honestly can say vailum was the more abused of that class of drugs for me..had all the xanax and colonopin ect I wanted..never took em..clouded up my nods!
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Probably because benzos aren't very soluble in water. Shooting them just satisfies the desire to inject something.
 
rory420420

rory420420

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Well that would explain it I guess..I thought vailum was soluable?..not much left when I pulled up the shots..def gave me aa 'ringer' when I hit one..but 10 mins later..bzzzzzz...I was on a lot of drugs then though..
 
MrEDuck

MrEDuck

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Valium is a little better than most but that's offset by the crap potency. 10mg is t much, you were banging pull fillers. I hope you used a micron filter. Shooting pills is awful foryou.
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

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MrEDuck said:
Valium is a little better than most but that's offset by the crap potency. 10mg is t much, you were banging pull fillers. I hope you used a micron filter. Shooting pills is awful foryou.
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Yeah I never got into pills mainly for that reason.. so much bad crap for only a few MG's of what I'm really after..
 
canndo

canndo

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Midazolam is the water soluble benzo, it is commonly administered iv. I do not m ow what they do to make valium soluble but you can get vials of valium solution. Is it a ph thing?
 
MrEDuck

MrEDuck

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chambray7 said:
wat are donuts?
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Swine bait

canndo said:
Midazolam is the water soluble benzo, it is commonly administered iv. I do not m ow what they do to make valium soluble but you can get vials of valium solution. Is it a ph thing?
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It's a polarity issue. Midazolam is just polar enough to get an active dose into an aqueous solution, with the other ones you need to use something that is slightly polar to mix with the water like ethanol (you really really really DO NOT WANT to inject ethanol) or propylene glycol (this is how pharma companies make injectable benzos).

racerboy71 said:
Yeah I never got into pills mainly for that reason.. so much bad crap for only a few MG's of what I'm really after..
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I got into them, I just didn't inject them :) Unless they were Dilaudids.
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

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MrEDuck said:
Swine bait



It's a polarity issue. Midazolam is just polar enough to get an active dose into an aqueous solution, with the other ones you need to use something that is slightly polar to mix with the water like ethanol (you really really really DO NOT WANT to inject ethanol) or propylene glycol (this is how pharma companies make injectable benzos).



I got into them, I just didn't inject them :) Unless they were Dilaudids.
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I got burnt at work fairly badly a few years ago and in the er they started me off in an Iv drip of I think morphine, which did not a thing for the pain and I was still in tears so they hooked me up with some dilaudid.. then after the d they gave me my daily 50 mg dose of methadone at the time I was on..
I about got up out of the bed and danced my way out of the e.r. door..
Not sure if it was the combination or what, but my god, it felt divine..
 
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