The 12-12 From Seed Thread

[Bakatare666]

Here's an update on my CFL 12/12 ones.
The Alpha Blue, now 80 days from sprout.View attachment 2944678
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Blueberry #2, not topped, now 64 days old.View attachment 2944682
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Berry #3, topped once, also 64 days old.View attachment 2944685
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SFV OG now 69 days old.View attachment 2944689
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[CerebralSpaceCadet]

Hello guys I'm new to the scene, I read about doing 12/12 from seed and thought it was a no brainier so I'm reppin 12/12 all day!! Now I've had my tallest plant in veg for about two months before putting in my seedlings, they also grew for about two days in veg, then I switched them over. They have been on 12/12 for a month now, the seedlings are growing at a normal pace I guess, but my tallest one has been slacking. Over all the tallest one has been alive for three months but is no where near as nice looking or as developed as others I've seen. I also tried FIMing it, but nothing happened, and I defoliated some leaves (maybe too much too soon) and the leaves that tried growing from where I cut just stopped growing, but the top of the plant is still growing like it has.To me the seedlings growth is going at a normal pace. But I've read around and saw that a lot of other people have had significantly faster growth, and their plants showing sex earlier.

My set up is three 100 watt cfls, the temp in the area is some what on the warm side like 75 max, I used miracle grow organic soil with part perlite mix. i also use phd water ( general hydro up and down ) with Schultz nutes. I know it's a contradiction to use the nutes when I'm using organic soil but it's my first time and I read on the soil bag that it only feeds for 3 months.

my question is, why am I not seeing better results? Ie faster growth.
And also what's good with my tallest plant?

Btw, all of these plants are from bag seed, my tallest plant is Hairy marry, red solo cup is Ak-47, and the seedlings are a mix of LA and Tropical Kush.

please understand I'm a complete noob, thanks.

 

[CerebralSpaceCadet]

Here's an update on my CFL 12/12 ones.
The Alpha Blue, now 80 days from sprout.View attachment 2944678
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Blueberry #2, not topped, now 64 days old.View attachment 2944682
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Berry #3, topped once, also 64 days old.View attachment 2944685
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SFV OG now 69 days old.View attachment 2944689
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Btw theses look spectacular, your results are off the chain!

 

[Javadog]

my question is, why am I not seeing better results? Ie faster growth.

Relative to what? Watch them. If they are happy, then it will show.

When you are growing the same plant a second time, then you might be
better able to tell if any differences in how you raise them help speed them up.

You should do fine. Do not mind any blowback about the MG soil.
(MG is sort of a kicking dog here ;0)

Good luck,

JD

 

[CerebralSpaceCadet]

Relative to what? Watch them. If they are happy, then it will show.

When you are growing the same plant a second time, then you might be
better able to tell if any differences in how you raise them help speed them up.

You should do fine. Do not mind any blowback about the MG soil.
(MG is sort of a kicking dog here ;0)

Good luck,

JD

Thanks javadog for the reply, and I'm just seeing a lot of other growers on 12/12 with much better results. I'm new at this so I don't know what to expect. And about the MG I've heard a lot of bad things said about it but why? And I read all the negativity after I had already bought it -,- lol

 

[Blitzedgrowkid08]

Off topic but I was wondering how long on avg. it takes for a 12/12 from seed plant to begin flowering? Have quite a few plants going 12/12 from seed now at about the three wk mark. Most of them were topped once a few days back. Thanks in advance guys!

 

[Bakatare666]

Thanks javadog for the reply, and I'm just seeing a lot of other growers on 12/12 with much better results. I'm new at this so I don't know what to expect. And about the MG I've heard a lot of bad things said about it but why? And I read all the negativity after I had already bought it -,- lol

Don't sweat the MG dude.
I even germ my beans in MG moisture control with MG perlite mixed in.

 

[Bakatare666]

Off topic but I was wondering how long on avg. it takes for a 12/12 from seed plant to begin flowering? Have quite a few plants going 12/12 from seed now at about the three wk mark. Most of them were topped once a few days back. Thanks in advance guys!

I'll toss in some pics from this week here in a minute, let me check some dates in my notes, as far as time, but I know with 2 identical beans, one I topped, the other I didn't, you'll see the difference even though they were both germed the same day.

 

[Bakatare666]

Pics from tonight.
Alpha Blue, 89 days old.
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Berry #2, 73 days old not topped.
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Berry #3, also 73 days old, topped once.
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SFV OG. 78 days old.
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[Bakatare666]

Off topic but I was wondering how long on avg. it takes for a 12/12 from seed plant to begin flowering? Have quite a few plants going 12/12 from seed now at about the three wk mark. Most of them were topped once a few days back. Thanks in advance guys!

As far as your question, I think the Berry that did not get topped started showing around 45 days, and about 2 1/2 weeks after that, the topped one started showing.

 

[Blitzedgrowkid08]

I'll toss in some pics from this week here in a minute, let me check some dates in my notes, as far as time, but I know with 2 identical beans, one I topped, the other I didn't, you'll see the difference even though they were both germed the same day.

So the topped plants will take longer to mature? Thanks Bak again for another timely reply! Always appreciate ur help bro!

 

[Bakatare666]

So the topped plants will take longer to mature? Thanks Bak again for another timely reply! Always appreciate ur help bro!

I would say that yes, the topped ones will take longer, just from my exp. this time doing the side by side, and IMO, it's because she is taking more time to get the tops going again.

 

[benmorgan236]

Update 12/12 from seed. day 75. Blackberry kush.

 

[CerebralSpaceCadet]

So I've been growing my plants for about a month in 12/12 ( from seed of corse) I've been wondering when they were going to show their sex?? I just want to be sure I catch the males in the bunch ASAP.

Please help.. Anyone.

 

[B166ER420]

So I've been growing my plants for about a month in 12/12 ( from seed of corse) I've been wondering when they were going to show their sex?? I just want to be sure I catch the males in the bunch ASAP.

Please help.. Anyone.

Mine usually show between 4-5 weeks,but ive had some show after 12 days and some take 5-6 weeks.Environment and doing any topping or trimming could cause a stunted or delayed sexing......BE PATIENT


Alright my 12/12,cfls and used MG solo cup grow
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View attachment 2956028View attachment 2956029...I still have a few more to finish drying but so far each one has been between 6.5- 9.5grams each so at an 8g avg. i had 36 cups.....36x8g=288g or over 10 ounces.I'll be using about 2z plus all the trimmings for Iso

 

[CerebralSpaceCadet]

Dudeee you give me hope man!!!!! I started my own thread in noobs and everyone's bashing or telling me to switch to a different light schedule. I'm going to steal one of your pics and post it on my thread to show up some people. And maybe shut some peoples faces. Lol hope you don't mind.

 

[B166ER420]

I've been doing 12/12fs since I started growing(2.5ys ago)so I could have a perpetual grow with harvests every 3 months.12/12 from seed using MG and 3ltr bottles and cfls

Edit..my first couple grows were organicI grow veggies too

 

[Bakatare666]

Dudeee you give me hope man!!!!! I started my own thread in noobs and everyone's bashing or telling me to switch to a different light schedule. I'm going to steal one of your pics and post it on my thread to show up some people. And maybe shut some peoples faces. Lol hope you don't mind.

He and I are proof that there is nothing wrong with MG soil and CFL's.

 

[B166ER420]

Some of my older grows....
...12/12fs MG,some solos,some tomatoes,some in 3ltr bottles
...NOT 12/12fs but MG and cfls

 

[CerebralSpaceCadet]

I've been doing 12/12fs since I started growing(2.5ys ago)so I could have a perpetual grow with harvests every 3 months.12/12 from seed using MG and 3ltr bottles and cfls

Edit..my first couple grows were organicI grow veggies too

thats awesome to hear man. Truly an honor, I thought I was totally screwed with the set up I had. But we have virtually the same setup minus a couple cfls and other stuff I'm sure. But I'm actually using organic MG. Lol I will sleep tonight with peace that my plants are ok.

Also so thanks for the rep comment.