Is Obama the second coming of Jesus Christ or is he merely Christ-like?

[tokeprep]

what a pile of failure.

the poor aren't poor.

The "poor" aren't poor. If you have a comfortable life you are not poor by the definition of the word. "Poor" Americans have exceedingly comfortable lives.

signing a tax withholding agreement has nothing to do with having taxes withheld.

I said a tax withholding agreement has nothing to do with the legal obligation to pay taxes.

jesus said to pay poll taxes but would disapprove of food stamp taxes. you have to work but you can choose to not work.

As I literally just said and you have totally ignored, Jesus didn't express approval or disapproval of the poll tax or any other tax. All Jesus said was that your religion was not a sufficient basis to refuse payment of taxes demanded by civil authorities.

too much failure. failure overload failure.

Seriously, way too much failure. Failure to read, on your part. I've addressed every argument you've made. Instead of responding to my refutations, you just repeat exactly the arguments.

Failure overload failure.

 

[UncleBuck]

the poor aren't poor.

the 10 million+ children who go to bed hungry every night are not from poor families.

balderdash!

signing a tax withholding agreement has nothing to do with having taxes withheld, hence why they don't make you even sign the thing if you want to work one of those types of jobs.

super legit.

jesus said to "render unto caesar" his poll taxes, but he would totally say "do not render unto caesar" any food stamp or welfare taxes.

because jesus is from the south, and that's how jesus rolls.

you can of course go onto welfare, but you still MUST work and pay taxes, even though mother nature has no gun to your head on that.

like a fucking puppy chasing its own tail. it's fucking amusing.

 

[tokeprep]

the poor aren't poor.

the 10 million+ children who go to bed hungry every night are not from poor families.

balderdash!

10 million children don't go to bed hungry every night. If you're food insecure for 1 out of 365 days of the year your household is considered "food insecure."

Why do you keep citing these numbers that you obviously don't understand?

signing a tax withholding agreement has nothing to do with having taxes withheld, hence why they don't make you even sign the thing if you want to work one of those types of jobs.

super legit.

Stop misconstruing what I said. Signing a tax withholding agreement has nothing to do with the legal obligation to pay income taxes.

jesus said to "render unto caesar" his poll taxes, but he would totally say "do not render unto caesar" any food stamp or welfare taxes.

Again, stop misconstruing what I said. Saying you should pay the tax is not the same as saying you support the tax.

because jesus is from the south, and that's how jesus rolls.

you can of course go onto welfare, but you still MUST work and pay taxes, even though mother nature has no gun to your head on that.

like a fucking puppy chasing its own tail. it's fucking amusing.

Yeah, it is. I love watching you chase that tail of yours.

 

[UncleBuck]

reality isn't reality! - devryUprep

 

[tokeprep]

reality isn't reality! - devryUprep

"Not having food for one day out of the year is the same as not having food every day of that year." --Buck.

 

[UncleBuck]

"Not having food for one day out of the year is the same as not having food every day of that year." --Buck.

this latest anecdotal, unattributed, and uncited fake stat of yours aside, i like how you are arguing that people who have to send their children to bed hungry are not actually poor.

i guess it's better than trying to continue your argument that paying taxes is mandatory, although you can go on welfare and not pay taxes.

and it's way better than trying to continue your argument that jesus says you should pay poll taxes but shouldn't pay taxes that help the poor.

don't even get e started on how companies merely suggest that employees sign a W4 since you don't really have to sign one to have taxes withheld.

bonerbonerbonerbonerboner

 

[tokeprep]

this latest anecdotal, unattributed, and uncited fake stat of yours aside, i like how you are arguing that people who have to send their children to bed hungry are not actually poor.

How peculiar to say that when provided the first stat and gave no attribution. Of course, you're just as capable of googling as I am. That's how I found out your stat was bullshit.

"

• In 2012, 49.0 million Americans lived in food insecure households, 33.1 million adults and 15.9 million children.
• In 2012, 14.5 percent of households (17.6 million households) were food insecure." http://feedingamerica.org/hunger-in-america/hunger-facts/hunger-and-poverty-statistics.aspx.

"For the purposes of this report, food insecurity is defined as any household that at any point during the year had a lack of access to enough food for an active, healthy life for all household members." http://www.ers.usda.gov/publications/err-economic-research-report/err155.aspx#.U0m2MFca3K1.

I actually didn't say there were no genuinely poor people in the United States, by the way. I said most/the majority of the "poor" in the United States are not actually poor.

i guess it's better than trying to continue your argument that paying taxes is mandatory, although you can go on welfare and not pay taxes.

Back to the logical fallacy of talking about an individual case when you made a general statement applicable to all.

and it's way better than trying to continue your argument that jesus says you should pay poll taxes but shouldn't pay taxes that help the poor.

Who said that? Wasn't me.

don't even get e started on how companies merely suggest that employees sign a W4 since you don't really have to sign one to have taxes withheld.

bonerbonerbonerbonerboner

An agreement to have taxes withheld in satisfaction of a tax obligation is distinct from the underlying tax obligation. You are equating them, which is hilarious, if pitiful.

Keep desperately grasping, I love it.

 

[UncleBuck]

I actually didn't say there were no genuinely poor people in the United States, by the way.

The "poor" aren't poor.

HERP!

 

[UncleBuck]

Who said that? Wasn't me.

Jesus didn't advocate governments forcing their citizens to help the poor.

DERP!

 

[UncleBuck]

In 2012, 49.0 million Americans... had a lack of access to enough food for an active, healthy life for all household members.

but they're not poor!

HERP DERP!

 

[tokeprep]

HERP!

"Being poor in this country tends to mean..."

"Poor people, generally..."

The discussion proceeded from there.

Whoops.

 

[UncleBuck]

I said work is necessary for humans to survive and thus not truly voluntary. ...I have to work (or become a welfare sponge...).

work is not voluntary! but you can also go on welfare and not work.

HERPADERPATERPADERP!

 

[tokeprep]

DERP!

What I said: "Jesus didn't advocate governments forcing their citizens to help the poor."

What you said I said: "...jesus says you should pay poll taxes but shouldn't pay taxes that help the poor."

Whoops.

 

[UncleBuck]

"Being poor in this country tends to mean..."

"Poor people, generally..."

The discussion proceeded from there.

Whoops.

the poor aren't poor.

millions of families have to send their kids to bed hungry. they aren't poor though, because they have an old TV. that was a luxury item a century ago!

HERPADERPADEPRHERPEHETE{EKNKJLBJWDEVRYUPREPDERP!

 

[tokeprep]

but they're not poor!

HERP DERP!

"...food insecurity is defined as any household that AT ANY POINT DURING THE YEAR..."

Whoops.

 

[UncleBuck]

What I said: "Jesus didn't advocate governments forcing their citizens to help the poor."

What you said I said: "...jesus says you should pay poll taxes but shouldn't pay taxes that help the poor."

Whoops.

hey jesus, should we render unto caesar his poll taxes?

yes.

hey jesus, should we render unto caesar his bread for the poor taxes?

FUCK NO!


HEPRHERPDERPDEVRYUPREPHERPDERPDERPDEVRYUPREPERPADERP!

 

[tokeprep]

work is not voluntary! but you can also go on welfare and not work.

HERPADERPATERPADERP!

I can. The aggregate cannot. Since your argument was about the aggregate, my individual case is irrelevant.

Whoops.

 

[UncleBuck]

"...food insecurity is defined as any household that AT ANY POINT DURING THE YEAR..."

Whoops.

there was a point during the year when the family had to send their kids to bed hungry, but they aren't poor because they have a telephone. you had to be a baller to afford one of those 125 years ago!

HERPADERPADERPDERPDEVRYUPREPITTECHBLACKKIDSTAKINGMYSCHOLARSHIPDERP!

 

[UncleBuck]

I can. The aggregate cannot. Since your argument was about the aggregate, my individual case is irrelevant.

Whoops.

so you can go on welfare, but you HAVE to work?

HERPADERPADERPDERPDEVRYUPREPDERP!

 

[tokeprep]

hey jesus, should we render unto caesar his poll taxes?

yes.

hey jesus, should we render unto caesar his bread for the poor taxes?

FUCK NO!

HEPRHERPDERPDEVRYUPREPHERPDERPDERPDEVRYUPREPERPADERP!

No no, the answer in the second case would be yes. Jesus said render the taxes commanded of you. He did not say he supported the merits of the tax.

Whoops.