How much or little do you think the US should intervene in foreign affairs?

[abandonconflict]

The Zionists are the Philistines. See Balfour Declaration.

 

[DonAlejandroVega]

he certainly won't settle this here. let it dangle.

 

[killemsoftly]

The old there's no such thing as a Palestinian gambit. Rinse. Repeat. Ad nauseum.

 

[DonAlejandroVega]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Peoples

a history of the Philistines' origin. they tore the Mediterranean up. totally off the Arab-Iraeli Conflict.

 

[Dr Kynes]

ZOMG!! the holocaust was a hoax! LOOK! jewish money used in the ghettoes and "deathcamps"!!

yeah, those scheming jews... i wanna be just like AbandonIntegrity and expose the Troof too!!




abandon integrity has already been schooled on the history of "palestine" but he prefers to feign ignorance and post anti-semitic cartoons by noted jew-hater and superstar in neo-nazi circles, "Latuff"

 

[abandonconflict]

Yeah I got schooled so hard when you insisted that the Torah is a historical document. I got schooled so hard when you supported the theocratic apartheid state by spewing bigotry against the millions of Palestinian victims.

You only question my integrity because you believe your own lies.

 

[abandonconflict]

Noam sayin?

 

[killemsoftly]

abandon integrity has already been schooled on the history of "palestine" but he prefers to feign ignorance and post anti-semitic cartoons by noted jew-hater and superstar in neo-nazi circles, "Latuff"

"A Jewish state would not have come into being without the uprooting of 700,000 Palestinians. Therefore it was necessary to uproot them. There was no choice but to expel that population. It was necessary to cleanse the hinterland and cleanse the border areas and cleanse the main roads. It was necessary to cleanse the villages from which our convoys and our settlements were fired on."
Source: Ha'aretz, 2004 Benny Morris (Israeli historian) in interview with Ari Shavit

You deny, deny, deny that Palestinians exist or existed. Joke. Kind of like claiming that no Plains Indians existed during the 19th century. In the same interview Morris called the activities of the proto-IDF (the Palmach and Haganah) ethnic cleansing. He admits 800 out of 700,000 were killed and contrasts it, in a favourable light, to Bosnia in the 90's, ie. the ethnic cleansing in Palestine was relatively benign compared to Bosnia and other instances of ethnic cleansing. I tend to agree; it was probably the least damaging ethnic cleansing of the 20th century (credit where credit is do).

This is not anti-semitism but history. The person who needs to be schooled is you. You distort, manipulate and lie. I'm now pretty much convinced you do it knowingly. I'm the first guy to acknowledge Jews have a 2, 000 year history of injustice and persecution yet have survived and, despite the odds, thrived. I wish them the best and hope they have a peaceful, prosperous future. I hope Palestinians have the same future.

Nevertheless, facts are facts. The relationship Jews have with Palestinians is very troubled and troubling. It is in their best interests to solve this problem through a two-state solution. Unfortunately, Israel manipulates U.S. policy makers and prolongs the peace process to solidify their position through a massive wall and land grab which is now near complete.

Distorting history should be a crime.

 

[DonAlejandroVega]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_and_Muslim_countries

I'll see your 700,000 palestinians, and raise you 100,000 refugees. what should they return to; life in Egypt? they won't go. they'll shoot nuclear weapons off to not have to go back. musta been great there.

 

[abandonconflict]

Israel does not simply prolong the process, they sabotage it by building settlements.

 

[killemsoftly]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_and_Muslim_countries

I'll see your 700,000 palestinians, and raise you 100,000 refugees. what should they return to; life in Egypt? they won't go. they'll shoot nuclear weapons off to not have to go back. musta been great there.

Are you Mizrahi?

 

[DonAlejandroVega]

do you belong to the Elks?

 

[DonAlejandroVega]

I'm an atheist, and I don't approve of some of Israel's brutal methods.

 

[Dr Kynes]

"A Jewish state would not have come into being without the uprooting of 700,000 Palestinians. Therefore it was necessary to uproot them. There was no choice but to expel that population. It was necessary to cleanse the hinterland and cleanse the border areas and cleanse the main roads. It was necessary to cleanse the villages from which our convoys and our settlements were fired on."
Source: Ha'aretz, 2004 Benny Morris (Israeli historian) in interview with Ari Shavit

You deny, deny, deny that Palestinians exist or existed. Joke. Kind of like claiming that no Plains Indians existed during the 19th century. In the same interview Morris called the activities of the proto-IDF (the Palmach and Haganah) ethnic cleansing. He admits 800 out of 700,000 were killed and contrasts it, in a favourable light, to Bosnia in the 90's, ie. the ethnic cleansing in Palestine was relatively benign compared to Bosnia and other instances of ethnic cleansing. I tend to agree; it was probably the least damaging ethnic cleansing of the 20th century (credit where credit is do).

This is not anti-semitism but history. The person who needs to be schooled is you. You distort, manipulate and lie. I'm now pretty much convinced you do it knowingly. I'm the first guy to acknowledge Jews have a 2, 000 year history of injustice and persecution yet have survived and, despite the odds, thrived. I wish them the best and hope they have a peaceful, prosperous future. I hope Palestinians have the same future.

Nevertheless, facts are facts. The relationship Jews have with Palestinians is very troubled and troubling. It is in their best interests to solve this problem through a two-state solution. Unfortunately, Israel manipulates U.S. policy makers and prolongs the peace process to solidify their position through a massive wall and land grab which is now near complete.

Distorting history should be a crime.

the "palestinians" in the camps, the ones who are making so much trouble are the descendants of squatters who charged in during the pre-ww2 land rush, after the balfour declaration that stated that fellahin who lived in the levant would own their land still, and the jews would have to buy any land not owned by the british crown.

arabs from all over charged in, copped a squat and claimed ancestral rights.

this is FACT.
hundreds of thousands of arabs flooded the levant, while the british mandatory authorities prevented jews from immigrating.

who are the "palestinians" who lived in the levant before the founding of israel? the 30% of israel's population who are arab israeli citizens.

 

[DonAlejandroVega]

but, I;m not surrounded by the Jihad........to restore the Caliphate

 

[abandonconflict]

I'm an atheist, and I don't approve of some of Israel's brutal methods.

So do you acknowledge that Israel is a theocratic apartheid state?

 

[killemsoftly]

do you belong to the Elks?

No.
I'd never heard of them until you mentioned them.
Friend of mines dad is from Iran. He's Mizrahi.

 

[DonAlejandroVega]

So do you acknowledge that Israel is a theocratic apartheid state?

no. 1 in 5 Israelis is a non=Jew, and enjoy full political rights. they are represented in the Knesset. by definition.......not apartheid.

 

[DonAlejandroVega]

No.
I'd never heard of them until you mentioned them.
Friend of mines dad is from Iran. He's Mizrahi.

25K of them live there. they walk a fine line...........

 

[abandonconflict]

the "palestinians" in the camps, the ones who are making so much trouble are the descendants of squatters who charged in during the pre-ww2 land rush, after the balfour declaration that stated that fellahin who lived in the levant would own their land still, and the jews would have to buy any land not owned by the british crown.

arabs from all over charged in, copped a squat and claimed ancestral rights.

this is FACT.
hundreds of thousands of arabs flooded the levant, while the british mandatory authorities prevented jews from immigrating.

who are the "palestinians" who lived in the levant before the founding of israel? the 30% of israel's population who are arab israeli citizens.

Citation required.