Man-made global warming is a lie and not backed up by science, claims leading meteorologist.

abandonconflict

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Well, I'm pretty sure it wasn't a industry backed political movement who proved them wrong but rather other scientists. So I'll wait for that.
The study cited is Idso 1983. The point of the study is specifically to explain a previous "hiatus" in the rise of global average surface atmospheric temperatures. There have been several such while the trend is undeniably increasing, a graph looks like a staircase with increases and plateaus.
 

abandonconflict

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Climate is what it is. Humans can't change it. Bill Gates even said that there's only one wwy to stop climate change, by reducing the human population by billions.
Oh, did Bill Gates get his opinion peer reviewed? Did you get your opinion that humans can't affect climate peer reviewed? Are you going to cite anything peer reviewed?

There is no shortage of peer reviewed research pointing to man made global warming.
 

Glaucoma

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Climate is what it is. Humans can't change it. Bill Gates even said that there's only one wwy to stop climate change, by reducing the human population by billions.
So humans can't change it but if we weren't around it'd be different?

Sounds to me like people have an impact, and that's what makes mankind so unique. We can impact just about anything we choose to. It's our gift and our curse.

btw, the aether was way back before we could even measure the speed of light accurately. Once we got that famous null result, it took Einstein to come along and explain that light is a constant.
 

Canna Sylvan

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Oh, did Bill Gates get his opinion peer reviewed? Did you get your opinion that humans can't affect climate peer reviewed? Are you going to cite anything peer reviewed?

There is no shortage of peer reviewed research pointing to man made global warming.
CO2 = P x S x E x C
 

Canna Sylvan

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So humans can't change it but if we weren't around it'd be different?

Sounds to me like people have an impact, and that's what makes mankind so unique. We can impact just about anything we choose to. It's our gift and our curse.

btw, the aether was way back before we could even measure the speed of light accurately. Once we got that famous null result, it took Einstein to come along and explain that light is a constant.
If humans are at fault, the only solution is a final solution for the whole planet.
 

abandonconflict

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So humans can't change it but if we weren't around it'd be different?

Sounds to me like people have an impact, and that's what makes mankind so unique. We can impact just about anything we choose to. It's our gift and our curse.

btw, the aether was way back before we could even measure the speed of light accurately. Once we got that famous null result, it took Einstein to come along and explain that light is a constant.
He is just trolling.
 

Glaucoma

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If humans are at fault, the only solution is a final solution for the whole planet.
Or like.. responsible stewardship of the only home we have.

If we had other rocks with a colony on it I probably wouldn't mind so much.

With the route we've taken, Fusion power is the only silver bullet I see that could possibly keep us on track. Otherwise, war, famine, etc will set us back hundreds of years after it reduces us back to a few small tribes.
 

MuyLocoNC

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Or like.. responsible stewardship of the only home we have.

If we had other rocks with a colony on it I probably wouldn't mind so much.

With the route we've taken, Fusion power is the only silver bullet I see that could possibly keep us on track. Otherwise, war, famine, etc will set us back hundreds of years after it reduces us back to a few small tribes.
I guarantee my tribe is gonna kick your tribe's ass.
 

Dr Kynes

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Or like.. responsible stewardship of the only home we have.

If we had other rocks with a colony on it I probably wouldn't mind so much.

With the route we've taken, Fusion power is the only silver bullet I see that could possibly keep us on track. Otherwise, war, famine, etc will set us back hundreds of years after it reduces us back to a few small tribes.
it's all happened before

the end of the minoan warm period brought about the fall of many early civilizations, like the babylonians

the end of the roman warm period ushered in the dark ages

the current warm period ushered in the enlightenment, which must eventually end as well

in warm periods life expands, successful species spread, and flourish. when the warm period ends and a cold period starts, everything retracts, except the ice.
 

MuyLocoNC

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you're an extremist who belongs to the lunatic fringe. not many people in your tribe.

why is that?

people generally don't like to self-identify as maniacally deluded and stupid.
Yeah, but it's the lunatics that will run this bitch when the shit hits the fan. And there's vast numbers in my legion, you just can't bring yourself to face it. I'll be wearing an UncleBuckskin hoodie in no time.
 

jahbrudda

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here's the head loon predicting that if we don't reduce co2, the oceans could boil.
Oh, that was in 1998. lol

 

UncleBuck

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Yeah, but it's the lunatics that will run this bitch when the shit hits the fan. And there's vast numbers in my legion, you just can't bring yourself to face it. I'll be wearing an UncleBuckskin hoodie in no time.
sure ya will, ya homicidal little deviant.

show me these masses that want to undo the entire social safety net, execute illegal immigrants, and put human rights to a popular vote then.
 

Padawanbater2

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it's all happened before

the end of the minoan warm period brought about the fall of many early civilizations, like the babylonians

the end of the roman warm period ushered in the dark ages

the current warm period ushered in the enlightenment, which must eventually end as well

in warm periods life expands, successful species spread, and flourish. when the warm period ends and a cold period starts, everything retracts, except the ice.
Total conjecture

That sounds good to anyone who doesn't know anything about actual human history, but it's flawed from the beginning in that it's much too simplistic an explanation. You simply conclude the dark ages were the result of the end of a warming period.. What about the decline of the Roman Empire? Germanic invasions into parts of Europe? Crusades, disease, etc.?
 

MuyLocoNC

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sure ya will, ya homicidal little deviant.

show me these masses that want to undo the entire social safety net, execute illegal immigrants, and put human rights to a popular vote then.
I only need about 50, easy to find as shit falls apart.

They're not illegal immigrants if you off them before they cross the border.

You mean like almost every state is now doing or has done recently, like all those?
 
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