Come watch crybabies cry about gay rights!

Padawanbater2

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Then you will have to explain equality . Can they buy a gun, can they drive? if they can they already have more rights than a lot of people. That kind of equality?
Total equality. Anything you can do I should also be free to do, anything I can do you should also be free to do. If anything is restricted to me based on arbitrary or unjustified reasons, that's not equality. Marriage is being denied to homosexual couples in some states because they're homosexual, that's an arbitrary & unjustified reason

Civil rights trump religious rights, and that's something theists in this country will either have to understand and accept or end up as another post in this thread
 

nitro harley

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Total equality. Anything you can do I should also be free to do, anything I can do you should also be free to do. If anything is restricted to me based on arbitrary or unjustified reasons, that's not equality. Marriage is being denied to homosexual couples in some states because they're homosexual, that's an arbitrary & unjustified reason

Civil rights trump religious rights, and that's something theists in this country will either have to understand and accept or end up as another post in this thread
If they really want to get married just go to a state that they can get married in, just like if you want to buy pot go to a state that sells pot. Its not perfect yet but there is a way to get er done.

To me mariage is between a man and a woman and I don't go to church.
 

Padawanbater2

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If they really want to get married just go to a state that they can get married in, just like if you want to buy pot go to a state that sells pot. Its not perfect yet but there is a way to get er done.

To me mariage is between a man and a woman and I don't go to church.
That's not equality

Why do you care if two consenting adults want to marry each other? What if I cared that American roadways are Ford only, how important would my opinion about what should or should not drive on roads in America be to you?

What you believe marriage should be is irrelevant, you aren't the arbiter of marriage in America
 

UncleBuck

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Then you will have to explain equality . Can they buy a gun, can they drive? if they can they already have more rights than a lot of people. That kind of equality?
how about veterans of foreign wars who do not get the same benefits as other veterans of foreign wars simply because they are gay?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/04/veterans-benefits-gay-couples_n_7514584.html

all your beloved republicans just voted to deny equal benefits to gay veterans and their spouses and their kids on the sole basis that they are gay.

maybe you should pull your dumb bigoted head out of your ass once in a while you fetid accumulation of horse manure.
 

OddBall1st

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how about veterans of foreign wars who do not get the same benefits as other veterans of foreign wars simply because they are gay?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/04/veterans-benefits-gay-couples_n_7514584.html

all your beloved republicans just voted to deny equal benefits to gay veterans and their spouses and their kids on the sole basis that they are gay.

maybe you should pull your dumb bigoted head out of your ass once in a while you fetid accumulation of horse manure.

Points to Gay not being such a good thing. A lot of people feel that way and Gays are not getting a free ticket to stomp around making demands in the name of or on grounds of being gay. Be gay, that`s it. Nobody will bother you. You know swinging dick looking for a man is only crying because they were not included to a procreation incentive, so now lets re-define marriage to get them in on the free $$$ savings.

Married GAY, and married Procreation are equally as different as dead and alive.
 

OddBall1st

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That's not equality

Why do you care if two consenting adults want to marry each other? What if I cared that American roadways are Ford only, how important would my opinion about what should or should not drive on roads in America be to you?

What you believe marriage should be is irrelevant, you aren't the arbiter of marriage in America

Would you be happy with gay marriage in all States but not included in procreation incentives for obvious reasons ?

Would you favor adoption laws to exclude these Gay parents from the procreation incentive.


If all you claim on this site is true, Gays just want to be married, and should be fine with procreators receiving incentives.


But we all know it`s all about the $$$$, Has nothing to do with civil rights equality because the redeeming quality belongs to procreators alone.
 

Padawanbater2

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Would you be happy with gay marriage in all States but not included in procreation incentives for obvious reasons ?

Would you favor adoption laws to exclude these Gay parents from the procreation incentive.


If all you claim on this site is true, Gays just want to be married, and should be fine with procreators receiving incentives.


But we all know it`s all about the $$$$, Has nothing to do with civil rights equality because the redeeming quality belongs to procreators alone.
What procreation incentives?
 

OddBall1st

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What procreation incentives?

Something on the lines of these.......http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d04353r.pdf [link`n don`t go so well for me] But to set aside privileges for man and women marriages, I`d call that incentives.

These are the sole reasons for Gay movement`s attack on Federal recognition of marriage based only on what they feel is a violation of so called .."equality"

The two are not equal to begin with....
 

Padawanbater2

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Something on the lines of these.......http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d04353r.pdf [link`n don`t go so well for me] But to set aside privileges for man and women marriages, I`d call that incentives.

These are the sole reasons for Gay movement`s attack on Federal recognition of marriage based only on what they feel is a violation of so called .."equality"

The two are not equal to begin with....
What incentives? I'm not going through 18 pages to look for it, why can't you just tell me?
 

UncleBuck

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Points to Gay not being such a good thing. A lot of people feel that way and Gays are not getting a free ticket to stomp around making demands in the name of or on grounds of being gay. Be gay, that`s it. Nobody will bother you. You know swinging dick looking for a man is only crying because they were not included to a procreation incentive, so now lets re-define marriage to get them in on the free $$$ savings.

Married GAY, and married Procreation are equally as different as dead and alive.
the incentives are for serving as a veteran of a foreign war, not procreation. many of these soldiers who are being denied equal benefits have families too.

dumbass klanman.
 

OddBall1st

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the incentives are for serving as a veteran of a foreign war, not procreation. many of these soldiers who are being denied equal benefits have families too.

dumbass klanman.

Man and woman marriage is the only one with procreation options buck and you know it. There are several incentives also for the private sector. Patty wouldn`t know an incentive if it bit in in ass.

So no buck, not just for VFW.

Klanman is how you grab the eye of the reader and not hold on to truth. When you end your post with a lie, you, like Hillary cannot be taken seriously but can be taken.
 

ginwilly

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What incentives? I'm not going through 18 pages to look for it, why can't you just tell me?
Compare what you pay in taxes to what a married person with 3 children pay. Those incentives. It's just part of the social engineering of our tax code. Up until this point, the government didn't want to incentivize gay marriage. Now they are starting to realize (about a decade or two behind the majority of society) that social engineering at the price of equality is wrong. People are also starting to realize that gay marriage isn't the downfall of society it was once thought to be when these incentives were first offered.
 

Padawanbater2

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Compare what you pay in taxes to what a married person with 3 children pay. Those incentives. It's just part of the social engineering of our tax code. Up until this point, the government didn't want to incentivize gay marriage. Now they are starting to realize (about a decade or two behind the majority of society) that social engineering at the price of equality is wrong. People are also starting to realize that gay marriage isn't the downfall of society it was once thought to be when these incentives were first offered.
If a gay couple has kids, they should enjoy equal benefits a straight couple enjoy. Not sure why @OddBall1st would be against that
 

ginwilly

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If a gay couple has kids, they should enjoy equal benefits a straight couple enjoy. Not sure why @OddBall1st would be against that
Not sure why anyone would, just thought you wanted to know which incentives.

Imagine if we didn't use the tax codes for social engineering and those incentives didn't exist for anyone. I doubt as many people would care about whether or not the government recognized gay marriage from both sides of the fight. I know people that have gone through marriage ceremonies in spite of the fact their state doesn't recognize them. They are just as married as anyone else in their own eyes and the majority of people who know them. We recognize their commitment to each other whether the state does or not.
 

Padawanbater2

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Not sure why anyone would, just thought you wanted to know which incentives.

Imagine if we didn't use the tax codes for social engineering and those incentives didn't exist for anyone. I doubt as many people would care about whether or not the government recognized gay marriage from both sides of the fight. I know people that have gone through marriage ceremonies in spite of the fact their state doesn't recognize them. They are just as married as anyone else in their own eyes and the majority of people who know them. We recognize their commitment to each other whether the state does or not.
There are certain things that require legal recognition, like visitation rights if one of them gets sick and has to stay at the hospital
 
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