Kens GDP Changed to Dungeon Vault Genetics

Amos Otis

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, I am a person with character and compassion.


I'll bet I've given away more weed seeds than you have. :eyesmoke:

Doesn't bother me, though, or I'd have never bought TGA or Green Point or......


So, did I profit off of Ken's name? YES. By hiring me and putting me in the position he did
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You realize....no one forced you to take that job, right? But since you voluntarily accepted the job, and the agreement, surely a cat of character would abide by the agreement, right?

I'm not gonna lie and say I didn't sell seeds to other people without him knowing, but..........
:roll:
 

Dungeons_Vault

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It don't matter,you'll get a pack from both...more than likely...like I did.

The GB f2 pack I have is getting put in the give away box,got enough cookies..

The funk,I'm still debating...
So based off some drama, youre gonna give away a strain that, at one point, you were very interested in? I wish youd take the time to grow them out. AT least the GB F2. Thats my creation... what sets me apart from ken and all the who has who's seeds BS...
 

Dungeons_Vault

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I'll bet I've given away more weed seeds than you have. :eyesmoke:

Doesn't bother me, though, or I'd have never bought TGA or Green Point or......




You realize....no one forced you to take that job, right? But since you voluntarily accepted the job, and the agreement, surely a cat of character would abide by the agreement, right?



:roll:
Is that a fact? Good for you if its true. Whats your point?
YOU have no clue what the agreement was, and for you to act as if you can honestly tough on it, like you have facts or hard evidence is laughable.
 

Dungeons_Vault

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You guys notice how Ken only comes back in here, is basically on autotune, repeating the same shit, AND CLEARLY avoiding all questions directed at him. You guys make a decision. I have been here and answered everything I could! Posted pics, etc... All Ken has said is how I ripped him off.
He made a point about a third party? That "investor" barely gave us shit and Ken and I complained about him all the time. Now hes gonna pretend he was taking care of us and had a third stake in this business. Where's the LMAO emoji

@Ken Estes answer the questions in order, there at least 8, and you havent said shit. YOU are the crook not me. I left you with 1900+ packs. That was over half the entire stock we had!!! Add that to the splits we made at cannabis cups and you got well over your half, or third, whatever...
 

genuity

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So based off some drama, youre gonna give away a strain that, at one point, you were very interested in? I wish youd take the time to grow them out. AT least the GB F2. Thats my creation... what sets me apart from ken and all the who has who's seeds BS...
Yes,I was wanting to grow them,based off the cookies..not cause you or ken.
The funk is what I really wanted,again..just off the genetic material...then you started talking of dirty breeding(was you part of that dirty breeding)?

As soon as I got them packs,with both of you guy's brand...I knew it was something strange going on.

But you made the funk right? Cause I'm going to pop them for sure.
 

torontoke

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Is that a fact? Good for you if its true. Whats your point?
YOU have no clue what the agreement was, and for you to act as if you can honestly tough on it, like you have facts or hard evidence is laughable.
Dude I think the point is just stop!
You both come on here slinging mud about each other while admitting to screwing each other over subtly or not. And worst of all you are doing it on an open forum in front of who your hoping are going to become paying customers.
Boxing in the special Olympics might be entertaining to watch for a few mins but after awhile most will just turn the channel out of guilt.

Let your work speak for itself and take the high road bro we have all had partnerships over the yrs go bad and u learn and move on.
 

Dungeons_Vault

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Yes,I was wanting to grow them,based off the cookies..not cause you or ken.
The funk is what I really wanted,again..just off the genetic material...then you started talking of dirty breeding(was you part of that dirty breeding)?

As soon as I got them packs,with both of you guy's brand...I knew it was something strange going on.

But you made the funk right? Cause I'm going to pop them for sure.
Yes, I made the funk. The only bad breeding that took place was is kens backyard, and no, I had no part of it.
 

Dungeons_Vault

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Dude I think the point is just stop!
You both come on here slinging mud about each other while admitting to screwing each other over subtly or not. And worst of all you are doing it on an open forum in front of who your hoping are going to become paying customers.
Boxing in the special Olympics might be entertaining to watch for a few mins but after awhile most will just turn the channel out of guilt.

Let your work speak for itself and take the high road bro we have all had partnerships over the yrs go bad and u learn and move on.
i hear you. I want ken to answer questions, or at least be scrutinized like you guys did me. He comes here says a few things and people just praise him!? He hasn't attempted to answer one point I've made about how shady and fucked off of a businessman he is
 

Clockboy Orange

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Just for the record we still don't have an answer on how Ken produced seeds in 74 days, DVG is supposedly a thief in the night riding his motorcycle into oblivion.

I actually enjoy both sides coming to explain where they stand and their views on what happened. One person is completely open about the situation and the other uses nice words and clever tactics to divert any real question into the run around.
 

Amos Otis

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YOU have no clue what the agreement was, and for you to act as if you can honestly tough on it, like you have facts or hard evidence is laughable.
You're right - I only have your words, and Ken's rep's words. Here's your words again:


I'm not gonna lie and say I didn't sell seeds to other people without him knowing, but it was a few packs here and a few packs there... I felt I was more than entitled to do that ...
I figure @ $100 a pack, that " a few packs here and a few packs there" = a couple grand here and a grand there. Just a hunch - no evidence - that selling packs behind your partners' back wasn't in the agreement.

Am I right?

Your words again - "I felt I was more than entitled to do that ..".

Ahhh.....but you didn't "feel" like you should have a conversation with your partners, to let them know your plans? Something like, " Dudes, I'm not getting paid, and I'll have to take some steps outside our agreement to make ends meet if I don't see some cash pronto." ?

Ethics, fair play, keeping your word / agreement / contract mean different things to different people. But just a heads up: anytime your defense includes profiting behind your partner's backs, you should probably leave the 'character' issue alone.
 

eastcoastmo

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Man, that looks dank af, are you not happy with it? I'd be tickled pink if I got a pheno like that, whether it's 'platinum' or not.
@Dungeons_Vault if you ever decide to sell a pack of those V2's, please keep me in mind! Cheers.
 

Velvet Elvis

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Ladies, ladies ladies.....

I was being smarmy. My pheno looks like forum cut not platinum is what I was saying. Next to my platinum delights it is looking to become a keeper. This pic is 2 weeks ago and it has 2 weeks left. absolutely greasy as fuck. 1st run of her. Foolow me on IG @Dankwhisperer for more pics

Eric, I am one of those customers you should listen to. I spend thousands a year on seeds, and have bought CLv2, Grandpas breath, the funk, purple champagne, and I bought phantom cookies, candyland 1 and GDp while you were the rep. I look past the bullshit and try to find fire. yes you have some fan boys out there who bought more than me, but I am a seasoned vet, that just spent $1000 in last week alone on GGG breeders stash, Alien rift, your grandpas breath, yadda yadda yadda.

Stop while youre ahead/behind(doesnt matter). You have nothing to prove to anybody. This battle paints a bad light on both of you. You are now a professional with your own brand. do you see pepsi talking shit about coke? think about it.... take a deep breath, go for a ride in your 24 year old truck..... separate yourself from them. before you, and durig PNW_Grown, everybody knew Ken was a dingaling with bullshit stories. I have never seen any company flip flop so much. do you remember playing role of publicist?

Rare dank, GGG, HSO, and a handful of others are all about positivity. 99% of seed buying customers are easy going, wanna be hippies.

negativity does the opposite of selling seeds. For every ounce of positivity, you sell 1 pack, for every ounce of negativity, you lost 5 sales...

ya dig?

just move on and pretend you never even knew him. besides GDP being in strain descriptions- you have nothing to do with him anymore.

dont be like cookiemaine. he will never get past level 3 because his personality prevents it. If you cant be chill, when selling things that are supposed to chill people out, you need to go sell roids or something.
 
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