2014 was definitely the hottest year on record

abandonconflict

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Never said it did.
It did not. I'm telling you it did not, because I have read the literature. Who ever said that, it was not NASA, as they and NOAA concluded UNEQUIVOCALLY that 2014 was DEFINITELY the hottest year on record. That is what they concluded, not that it probably was, as you have been arguing was their conclusion.

This all stems from your lack of understanding of "Ranking of Record Years".
 

abandonconflict

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Never said it did.
Yes you did.
NASA has been very clear it is "most likely" the hottest year of that infinitesimal time period. They also openly admit their findings are well within their own stated margin of error.

‘Therefore it is impossible to conclude from our analysis which of 2014, 2010, or 2005 was actually the warmest year…'
You clearly misattributed this false quote to NASA.
 

MuyLocoNC

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It did not. I'm telling you it did not, because I have read the literature. Who ever said that, it was not NASA, as they and NOAA concluded UNEQUIVOCALLY that 2014 was DEFINITELY the hottest year on record. That is what they concluded, not that it probably was, as you have been arguing was their conclusion.

This all stems from your lack of understanding of "Ranking of Record Years".
I'm sorry you have problems comprehending the subject of our debate. They can conclude anything they like, it changes nothing about the basis of that conclusion.

This all stems from your lack of understanding of probability.
 

abandonconflict

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Here's the chart again:


You see, according to the literature which accompanied this chart, which you have so clearly and demonstrably failed to understand, all of the record years add up to 100% which means we're not dealing with probability in the sense of there being a margin of error, but as in ranking.

That's why it says Ranking of Record Years at the top, ya dingus.


Feel free to point out which year you think was hotter than 2014 though.
 

abandonconflict

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I'm sorry you have problems comprehending the subject of our debate. They can conclude anything they like, it changes nothing about the basis of that conclusion.

This all stems from your lack of understanding of probability.
You have no idea what the basis of the conclusion is, as you have not read the material which accompanied the chart, which clearly lays out the methodology. Furthermore, the conclusion is unequivocal, if it were not, it would be a different conclusion, so we are indeed debating what the conclusion was.

Protip" NASA and NOAA concluded that 2014 was definitely the hottest year on record.
 

MuyLocoNC

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which means we're not dealing with probability in the sense of there being a margin of error, but as in ranking.
Just like the first time, that's the stupidest statement ever made in this discussion. But, since your entire argument depends on that ridiculous assertion, I guess you expect anyone to believe that, just because you say so?
 

MuyLocoNC

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You have no idea what the basis of the conclusion is, as you have not read the material which accompanied the chart, which clearly lays out the methodology. Furthermore, the conclusion is unequivocal, if it were not, it would be a different conclusion, so we are indeed debating what the conclusion was.
I did and I do. Conclusion is irrelevant, basis for conclusion is the only topic of debate.
 

abandonconflict

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I did and I do. Conclusion is irrelevant, basis for conclusion is the only topic of debate.
That doesn't even make sense. The conclusion is that 2014 was definitely the hottest year on record. You argue the conclusion was that 2014 was maybe the hottest year on record, a different conclusion, ya dingus.
 

MuyLocoNC

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That doesn't even make sense. The conclusion is that 2014 was definitely the hottest year on record. You argue the conclusion was that 2014 was maybe the hottest year on record, a different conclusion, ya dingus.
Sorry, wrong again. I'm arguing that the conclusion was based on probability, which by definition debunks definitive. Regardless of what NASA concluded. You're not very bright, are you?
 

abandonconflict

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Sorry, wrong again. I'm arguing that the conclusion was based on probability, which by definition debunks definitive. Regardless of what NASA concluded. You're not very bright, are you?
You have no idea what the conclusion was based on, since you have not read the material and do not understand the methodology of the premises. That's why you're fixated on the word probability in one chart. That is also why you falsely attributed a quote to NASA.

The conclusion is that 2014 was definitely the hottest year on record.
 

MuyLocoNC

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No, you falsely attributed that quote to NASA. It is quite obvious from reading the post that this is exactly what you meant.
It was unattributed. If I had attributed it, it would have been to Gavin Schmidt, Director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, speaking on behalf of NASA about the report. But, I didn't.
 

abandonconflict

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It was unattributed. If I had attributed it, it would have been to Gavin Schmidt, Director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, speaking on behalf of NASA about the report. But, I didn't.
It was clearly and obviously falsely attributed to NASA. If you're now saying that the director of GISS said that, citation required. I can't find it anywhere in any NASA publication.
 

MuyLocoNC

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It was clearly and obviously falsely attributed to NASA. If you're now saying that the director of GISS said that, citation required. I can't find it anywhere in any NASA publication.
Untrue, at no point did I attribute that to NASA. But, he's the director responsible for the NASA report under debate and he speaks for NASA on that topic, you do the math.

Quotes to independent press organizations don't go in NASA publications, nice try. It wasn't in Hustler magazine either, it must be false.
 
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