Whites and blacks in US 'disagree on racism'

[Ace Yonder]

If you're going to make accusations, you should probably be able to support them.

That's what I've been saying to you this whole time, which you continually ignore. Frustrating, isn't it? Again, once you finish the queue of unanswered questions I have posed you, by providing specific, precise examples, I'll get around to answering yours in the same manner.

 

[Fogdog]

I'm not gonna do your work for you. You can't be bothered to prove me wrong (Or actually, TRY to prove me wrong as the reality is that I am correct, because, unlike you, I have already done the research), so I will accept your refusal to participate as a gracious acknowledgement of my correctness.

I have no idea what you would be wrong or right about. I have no interest in this subject.

 

[bearkat42]

That's what I've been saying to you this whole time, which you continually ignore. Frustrating, isn't it? Again, once you finish the queue of unanswered questions I have posed you, by providing specific, precise examples, I'll get around to answering yours in the same manner.

What questions? Did the holocaust happen? It didn't happen in America, you know, where I live. What other questions would you like me to answer?

 

[reefer.m4dness]

black Americans remain considerably more likely than white Americans to hold anti-Semitic views. In the 1998 survey, blacks (34%) are nearly four times as likely as whites (9%) to fall into the most anti-Semitic category."

Is there any reason sited to explain why African Americans are overwhelmingly more antisemitic than white Americans?

 

[Ace Yonder]

What questions? Did the holocaust happen? It didn't happen in America, you know, where I live. What other questions would you like me to answer?

Soooo your answer is "No", you don't believe it happened? Just want everyone to be clear on that. There are more questions for you to answer, you can read back in the thread and find em, I'm not doing your work for you.

 

[Ace Yonder]

I have no idea what you would be wrong or right about. I have no interest in this subject.

Then maybe don't get involved next time. Stay away from subjects you have no interest in discussing. That should make things easier in the future.

 

[reefer.m4dness]

It didn't happen in America

Do you feel any sympathy or empathy for the Jewish people that died because of the holocaust, genocide against the jewish race?

 

[Fogdog]

Some of the bad people in the world are white, some have brown eyes some don't. Your rhetoric can easily be misconstrued to imply these bad people are/were bad because they're white.
if these bad people being white had no influence on their evil behavior then mentioning their skin color contentiously has no justification.

Were there black people in the Klan of the 1880's? It was a powerful and violent white supremacist organization. The Klan was an important tool to keep black people working in the cotton fields.

Racism isn't random acts of violence or bias by brown people or white people. I'm talking about institutionalized violence perpetrated by white racist supremacists on black people for economic and social reasons. it was common in the US for most of its history and goes on less overtly today.

If you want to start an everybody matters movement nobody is stopping you. In fact people have. Why don't you go there?

 

[bearkat42]

Soooo your answer is "No", you don't believe it happened? Just want everyone to be clear on that. There are more questions for you to answer, you can read back in the thread and find em, I'm not doing your work for you.

No, that's not my answer at all. My answer is that it didn't happen here. Atrocities happen all over the world, why am I supposed to feel a particular way about this particular one. I've never been to Germany.

 

[Ace Yonder]

No, that's not my answer at all. My answer is that it didn't happen here. Atrocities happen all over the world, why am I supposed to feel a particular way about this particular one. I've never been to Germany.

I want a "Yes" or a "No". Do you believe that the Holocaust happened, and that upwards of 11 million people were killed in it, 6 million of them Jews? It is a very simple question.

 

[bearkat42]

Do you feel any sympathy or empathy for the Jewish people that died because of the holocaust, genocide against the jewish race?

Of course, but no more so than any other atrocity that has taken place in the world not in America.

 

[reefer.m4dness]

Atrocities happen all over the world, why am I supposed to feel a particular way about this particular one. I've never been to Germany.

You should defend ALL your fellow men and women from Tyranny of any kind. Lets hope you're never in need, a person of the WRONG skin color stumbles upon you

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

 

[UncleBuck]

You should defend ALL your fellow men and women from Tyranny of any kind. Lets hope you're never in need a person of the WRONG skin color stumbles upon you

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

please don't try to co-opt the message of the jews for whatever sinister reason you are trying to do so.

 

[bearkat42]

I want a "Yes" or a "No". Do you believe that the Holocaust happened, and that upwards of 14 million people were killed in it, 6 million of them Jews? It is a very simple question.

The holocaust happened. I've never said that it didn't. It just didn't happen here, I'm not sure what you're expecting from me. Again, I've never been to Germany.

 

[Big_Lou]

Statements like this are going to force me no not take you seriously.

Wait, you have been taking him seriously up until now? Ohhhh, boy. Dude, you are wasting precious life energies on this sort of person:



Surely you realize this by now, yes?

 

[bearkat42]

You should defend ALL your fellow men and women from Tyranny of any kind. Lets hope you're never in need, a person of the WRONG skin color stumbles upon you

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Maybe when "all of my fellow men and women defend me from tyranny of any kind" I'll me more inclined to reciprocate, or is this just a one way street?

 

[Ace Yonder]

Maybe when "all of my fellow men and women defend me from tyranny of any kind" I'll me more inclined to reciprocate, or is this just a one way street?

So everyone should just keep on thinking this way and no one ever has to change and things can just stay shitty forever. Got it.

 

[reefer.m4dness]

The holocaust happened. I've never said that it didn't. It just didn't happen here, I'm not sure what you're expecting from me. Again, I've never been to Germany.

Your wife or mom gets raped in Germany you're not going to worry about it if it happens on American soil you will be slightly upset? Why don't you just be honest and say you don't care what happens to Jewish people.

 

[bearkat42]

So everyone should just keep on thinking this way and no one ever has to change and things can just stay shitty forever. Got it.

So the state of race relations in America is my fault? Got it.

 

[reefer.m4dness]

So the state of race relations in America is my fault? Got it.

Its all our fault brother, and we can all make it work, but you have to stop hating whites and jews.