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The problem with democracy is the vote of 10 street hobos has more value than 5 professors.This is what's wrong with our politics.
The problem with democracy is the vote of 10 street hobos has more value than 5 professors.This is what's wrong with our politics.
Actually, they do.I understand. I agree with you that it doesn't take a majority to violate your rights, it was a built in "side dish" assumption of my post.
If an individual doesn't have a right to do X, then you can't amass a sum of individuals, all of whom have no right to do X and somehow erroneously create a right from it simply because a bunch of people all agree to something which none of them as an individual has a right to do. Bet you thought you had me there, eh ?
No, not at all.I understand. I agree with you that it doesn't take a majority to violate your rights, it was a built in "side dish" assumption of my post.
If an individual doesn't have a right to do X, then you can't amass a sum of individuals, all of whom have no right to do X and somehow erroneously create a right from it simply because a bunch of people all agree to something which none of them as an individual has a right to do. Bet you thought you had me there, eh ?
No, not all.
Which proves education is a waste of money and we should make it more difficult to obtain one.The problem with democracy is the vote of 10 street hobos has more value than 5 professors.
Actually, they do.
Survival of the fittest. Smartest.Okay. If you and I don't have a right to do x, for example, take something which doesn't belong to either of us from the rightful owner ...are you saying if we combine our inabilities to rightfully take something from the owner, we can create the right from nothing when neither of us possesses it as an individual?
How does that work?
I'm not sure that explains how something nonexistent can come into being though.Survival of the fittest. Smartest.
....because sometime somewhere when you least expect itI'm not sure that explains how something nonexistent can come into being though.
I agree that people in extreme circumstances will do something beyond the scope of their rights, but it doesn't mean that the NONEXISTENT right to do x, can be created by the circumstances. If that were the case, all a thief has to say is, "I robbed from the other person, because I really really needed the money to buy some crack etc." Or, "I shit on a floor I don't own, because I really, really had to go etc."
The problem with democracy is the vote of 10 street hobos has more value than 5 professors.
What is x?It is morally hypocritical and mathematically impossible. Please explain where the right comes from.
Where is 'over here'?You are just not ready to see it. Over here we see whole communities lose their shit and go on the rampage.
They basically trashed a town last month again. Businesses running 30 years wiped out overnight.
Show me one US library or clinic set alight because the people were pissed off, here that hardly makes the back page.
South AfricaWhere is 'over here'?
... Only if they all vote. The hoboes are much less likely to vote than the college professors, so they aren't heard in the process.The problem with democracy is the vote of 10 street hobos has more value than 5 professors.
10% of homeless population vote.... Only if they all vote. The hoboes are much less likely to vote than the college professors, so they aren't heard in the process.
Sadly, this is why they aren't heard in government.10% of homeless population vote.
No offense but we don't need hobos running the country.Sadly, this is why they aren't heard in government.