Personal experiences using LED in general and also Far Red - Faster Finishing Times.

[Thundercat]

Wrong.
As far as breeders timing goes and the amount of days they suggest it takes,is meant to be interpreted as from the day you switch the light schedule.

No most breeders list actual flowering time from flower set dude. I've been doing this a long time. Some breeders will actually list 12/12 time.

That being said there are many more pollen chuckers selling seeds then actual breeders that know anything about botany and genetics. Some of those pollen chuckers started as internet growers like us and might count from 12/12 but that doesn't make it biologically correct to do. The more accurately we can understand the plant the better we can grow it. Counting from an arbitrary number like 12/12 is not accurate at all. Counting from 12/12 is a lazy over simplification that only some online pot growers use.

 

[Airwalker16]

thunder is right , those plants are starving to "death" ....when the plant knows its going to die , it will finish early. its not finished , its dead. Flushing is the most overrated word on the internet....most dont even know what it means. imagine what them buds would of looked like if they wasnt forced to eat themselves ?

I'm more with @Rocket Soul and what he said.
The plants are SO FAR from "dead". You don't know what you're talking about.
The growth under the scrog net is still green as can be. It's definitely my light intensity. That's why the leaves are BLEACHED almost translucently.

 

[Thundercat]

The fun thing here is we don't have to agree on this. I learned years ago that some of you insist on using 12/12 time. But that's why I and other experienced growers simply ask people if they mean flip time of flower time.

In either case starving your plants to death isn't the same as your LeD making them finish faster..........

 

[Thundercat]

I'm more with @Rocket Soul and what he said.
The plants are SO FAR from "dead". You don't know what you're talking about.
The growth under the scrog net is still green as can be. It's definitely my light intensity. That's why the leaves are BLEACHED almost translucently.

Lol I keep a 1k hps 14 inches from my canopy please don't preach to me about your light intensity making the leaves fade. That's not how it works. I've bleached plants over the years lmao. if your light intensity was too high those buds would be bleached white, and typically the leaves wouldn't just fade, they would have other reactions.(tacoing, burning, bleaching not smooth even fade)

Plants feeding off themselves creates even consistent fades.

 

[Thegermling]

Yet that's called re vegging. At two weeks from 12/12 that plant should have been actually flowering or very close. So yes it would have to transition back I veg state which can be tough.



Many times I've taken plants into 12/12 for a few days(4-6)to encourage sexing and a little stretch, and then back into veg to clone them. Unless the plant had actually began to form flowers it never had any delay in going back to veg or had the clones try to flower.

I have had plants from very mature genetics very heavily preflower in veg and then the clones almost act like they were reveging after rooting. That was a weird one.

Nah the dude was implying that the cuts will flower while rooting. Rooting is put on the back burner when you start to flower. When youre in veg plants dont flower. When you take a cut from a flowering plant in hopes to clone it, people usually put 18/6-24/0, etc., of light. Why is that? Its so that plant reverts back to veg. The hormones redistribute again to favor root production. Its one way (veg) or the other (flower), cant be both.If theres one thing I dont like its misinformation.
Cloning from flowering plants (usually week 2 or 3) is known as monster cropping. Reveg is for plants that have been to the end of flowering.
Im surprised a guy who sells lights dont know this.

 

[growingforfun]

I'm more with @Rocket Soul and what he said.
The plants are SO FAR from "dead". You don't know what you're talking about.
The growth under the scrog net is still green as can be. It's definitely my light intensity. That's why the leaves are BLEACHED almost translucently.

Of course you think the guy complimenting you is correct.

Probably best to ignore the other growers with more experiance than you trying to help you. Those guys are just assholes who are trying to make you feel bad, not give good advice to help you.



Yep, those are some rare gems. Finished and ready for harvest. Perfectly grown and no possible way to be improved. My hats off to you airwalker you truly are a master of the craft.

 

[a mongo frog]

Of course you think the guy complimenting you is correct.

What causes this?

 

[Airwalker16]

The fun thing here is we don't have to agree on this. I learned years ago that some of you insist on using 12/12 time. But that's why I and other experienced growers simply ask people if they mean flip time of flower time.

In either case starving your plants to death isn't the same as your LeD making them finish faster..........

I'm just gonna post these to prove my point further that LEDs have a heavy bleaching effect towards the end of flower. It's happened numerous times to lots of members here I've seen.
Under growth is still right as rain. Notice this corner of the tent in the second pic. Where the light is quite less intense. Far less yellowing there.

 

[Airwalker16]

Of course you think the guy complimenting you is correct.

Probably best to ignore the other growers with more experiance than you trying to help you. Those guys are just assholes who are trying to make you feel bad, not give good advice to help you.



Yep, those are some rare gems. Finished and ready for harvest. Perfectly grown and no possible way to be improved. My hats off to you airwalker you truly are a master of the craft.

Hey, Thanks! I appreciate it!

 

[a mongo frog]

I'm just gonna post these to prove my point further that LEDs have a heavy bleaching effect towards the end of flower. It's happened numerous times to lots of members here I've seen.
Under growth is still right as rain. Notice this corner of the tent in the second pic. Where the light is quite less intense. Far less yellowing there.
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3 more weeks left. Nice grow!!!! You would benefit from not flushing.

 

[Airwalker16]

3 more weeks left. Nice grow!!!! You would benefit from not flushing.

Thanks bruh. I'll be taking one of the ghosts down in a week, rest I'll let go is fully. Just to compare. Plus, I need something to smoke!!

 

[growingforfun]

I'm just gonna post these to prove my point further that LEDs have a heavy bleaching effect towards the end of flower. It's happened numerous times to lots of members here I've seen.
Under growth is still right as rain. Notice this corner of the tent in the second pic. Where the light is quite less intense. Far less yellowing there.
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What you think is proof your doing everything correctly is simply proof they are in fact starving...

But maybe your tent is differant than every other example of plant growth lacking nutrients to have ever existed..

what's more likely?

Try feeding your plants and keeping them green next cycle and concider the possiblity you can do better than you currently are, you may be happy with the results! I've changed the way I grow a lot over the years, in the past my plants would always look just like yours do at day 50, starting to yellow out the exact same way yours are. Now I continue with nitrogen farther into flower and enjoy the results. I use a balanced 20-20-20 nearly all of flower only using a high pk during a week 7 if at all. I stop nutrients only the last 1 or 2 waterings.
The taste is better than ever I promise! It's the high pk that ruins the flavor making things harsh and why in the past people would flush.

 

[Airwalker16]

I don't have "waterings". This is a waterfall aerated RDWC setup. Roots are always soaking up water.

 

[delstele]

I have to agree they do look hungry... I'm growing with LED's never had a problem with bleaching..

Day 40 Mr Nice shark shock..

 

[getogrow]

I have to agree they do look hungry... I'm growing with LED's never had a problem with bleaching

you think his is overfed or something ? No , this is how ANY PLANT UNDER ANY LIGHT should look when done. some hydro guys think its better quality if its yellowing towards the end. they are wrong. yours is not yellowing , ITS EATING ITSELF, bleaching is NEVER gonna happen under no dam leds. it litterally looks like you started flushing at about 30 days after the flip.

 

[getogrow]

what healthy and finished should look like....

 

[getogrow]

the ones i just posted were also hungry imo but others might like it better that way.
your seconds pics were not eating themselves , they were just needed more food.

 

[a mongo frog]

what healthy and finished should look like....

Almost finished right? Fucking nice dude!!!! Thats LED? No way?

 

[getogrow]

Almost finished right? Fucking nice dude!!!! Thats LED? No way?

yes led, and already cut down an smoked

 

[coreywebster]

you think his is overfed or something ? No , this is how ANY PLANT UNDER ANY LIGHT should look when done. some hydro guys think its better quality if its yellowing towards the end. they are wrong. yours is not yellowing , ITS EATING ITSELF, bleaching is NEVER gonna happen under no dam leds. it litterally looks like you started flushing at about 30 days after the flip.

If i was the type of guy who saved pics i could of shown you some proper bleaching from leds man.