Swami Seeds

radiant Rudy

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View attachment 4302742 Folks I lost track of the tag for this plant. Does anyone recognize her as Swami gear at all? It could possibly be a cherry bomb. NL or a BOH cross from Swami's inventory last year.
. Are those candy canelooking pistil colors distinctive? ....or I have i been blind to that trait for years?
Another unidentified female that looks just like the last unknown bean female. Still not sure if this is Cherry Bomb.
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SCJedi

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View attachment 4361476 The ones on the right of the pic (middle of bed) are blue orca haze. I’ll def need more space for the girls next season :) ahh the love of the hunt...
Looks awesome! Those leaf segments certianly don't look much like my male BOH which has very narrow long leaf segments indicating that he leans to the NL5Haze part of the lineage. Hopefully that pollen is tame enough to hit other plants with!
 

Growitpondifarm

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Here’s my Vietnam black x the one/panama I think ? Can’t remember the exact cross from Swami but love the structure of this little plant so far. I have a couple other females under lights in bloom of this cross along with my sole yogi female I got. Everything looks good and psyched to see this one progress outside.
 

Baqualin

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Now for one I'm really excited about Velvet Orca, I ended up with 5 females and one male (crap, wanted a least 2 males), I will save the pollen until I get another male to make F2's. Here's the 4 females, they're about a month behind the BOH above for reference
Velvet Orca #1
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Velvet Orca #2
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Velvet Orca #3
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Velvet Orca #4
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I'll post a pic of #5 and the male in a bit, they're at another location. Really stoked to see how these turn out.
FYI, Gas is bringing the fire on his fall drop!
Baq
 

Veronavb

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Ye
there were definitely a few runts and mutants in the Zazen which is the Blue Orca (1971 (Afganistan) x 1976 (Thai Stick)) x 1991 Northern Lights #5/Neville's Hazeback crossed to the Blue Orca. But in my experience growing a good grip of them there was extreme variance, not all being bad, some quite good and worth keeping around. With so much Thai and the general rawness of the genetics the mutants and undesireable phenotypes shouldn't be unexpected.

Thread detailing the project:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=262003


chocolate pheno


early finishing haze pheno



maybe it's not for everyone due to the number of plants you'll want to cull early on, but there are some good expressions.

I would recommend growing the Blue Orca x NL5H before the backcross, it is more homogenous, and it's easy to find a keeper amongst that stock that. A lot of people that grow the BO x NLH you don't hear back from ...they found what they were looking for...



I like the cherry bomb stuff, velvet rush stuff, the bo x nlh, and the mazar x guerrero from what i've seen so far. the straight 1991 NL5H is out there too, but it's too much for most people, maybe best for breeding with
Yeah ive seen him talk about not bottle knecking his stuff. So maybe more if your looking for slmething to add to ure line in high or features
 

Veronavb

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Now for one I'm really excited about Velvet Orca, I ended up with 5 females and one male (crap, wanted a least 2 males), I will save the pollen until I get another male to make F2's. Here's the 4 females, they're about a month behind the BOH above for reference
Velvet Orca #1
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Velvet Orca #2
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Velvet Orca #3
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Velvet Orca #4
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I'll post a pic of #5 and the male in a bit, they're at another location. Really stoked to see how these turn out.
FYI, Gas is bringing the fire on his fall drop!
Baq
Looking fya
 

Veronavb

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Sk
If the place you got your NL5/Hz starts with an S, and ends with an I, and also has an ens in it ?? I also found them to not be in the same universe. Junk actually

Also the Other Seed Bank Version, that starts with an MR, and is better than the S version, but still no cigar. Still about half strength.

I also agree the modern version produced more bud, but less oil, and terpenes.

Ive also been smoking since I was 8 yers old, and I'm 58, and have smoked a lot of good weed, incl all the stuff that's supposed to be so good ect. And have grown a lot of it.

NONE of the modern weed was for me, as powerful as what I originally had in the 90s. I had a few strains in the 70s that would compare, but as far as all the Kush, Super Silver Haze, Ghost Train Haze, C99, AK47, NL#5, original non fem Barneys G13 x Haze, DJ Short Blue Moonshine, Blueberry, Grape Krush, Mr Nice Ortega, Mr Nice Shit, Mr Nice Critical Mass, Kosher Kush, Jack the Ripper, Tangie, AK x NL5, Willie Nelson, Original Pure Rhino.. Not White Rhino....God Bud, Sensi Mr Nice G13 x Haze, Martian Mean Green, NYC Diesel, Herijuana, Green Manalishi, Afghani #1, Non Fem Barneys Sweet Tooth, White Russian, White Rhino, White Widow, Chemdawg, Pre 98 Bubba Kush, Dank Sinatra, and others.

I'm hoping the original NL5/Hz, Blue Orca Haze end my search.

I also plan on breeding the NL5/Hz Male x Hazeman/NDNGuy/Nevils 88 G13 x HP
Skunk done right brings them im looking through my 3rd eye. U know lil coulor diference spacey waxy almost.
 

jimihendrix1

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@jimihendrix1, did you ever cross these two?' I have a fine NL5/Haze male from Gas and two packs of Hazemans 88G13HP I was thinking about doing an OP on for selection of a male and female. Same track as you once we're.

No. I gave the seeds to a buddy last year, and he suffered a malady that he, and others have been reporting for some years now, and while we haven't found an exact answer to our problem, it seems to be linked to what Is called Phytoplasmas.

Its a Bacteria vectored by bugs. Leafhoppers for 1, and also many others, and has been reported all over the country. Hawaii-Maine, and was first observed in Iran in 1967-68 in cannabis Sativa, and was later identified in India a couple years later. It was predicted to spread worldwide, and apparently has.
It was discovered by the Japanese in 1967. Several other types have also been observed since then, and most all have been linked to bug vectors, and are Bacterial.. They also have a very very hard time replicating it with PCR, but I believe they have just only recently been able to replicate it invitro.

The growing tips start turning purple black, distorted, and most of the time do not make it, and generally what does turn itself around is useless, and I wont smoke it, especially considering I strongly believe it is Bacterial. Most of the time the plants die, and my buddy has probably lost 3000 plants in the last 5-6 years.

Also the same strains do not do this inside, and from what I understand if seeds do make it through, the Bacteria is passed on.

I lost 8 packs G13/Hashplant, 4 Snow Lotus, Coastal Seeds Puck Yeah x 5 packs. Coastal Black Lights x 5 packs. 40 Blue Orca Haze, 40, NL5/Haze, 5 packs Dr Atomic Atomic Lights, 4 packs Mosca C99, THSeeds HOG x 5 packs. We also lost several more seeds/plants to this plague.

Its also NOT cold related, no purple genetics as this actually goes black, and necrotic/death. Also sometimes happens in Veg, but is most prevalent in early flowering, so my buddy still has this to look forward to. Hes already had it on some plants in veg this year, and many veg normally, and look beautiful, but as soon as they start flowering, they turn gnarly, and deformed/die.
 

SCJedi

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No. I gave the seeds to a buddy last year, and he suffered a malady that he, and others have been reporting for some years now, and while we haven't found an exact answer to our problem, it seems to be linked to what Is called Phytoplasmas.

Its a Bacteria vectored by bugs. Leafhoppers for 1, and also many others, and has been reported all over the country. Hawaii-Maine, and was first observed in Iran in 1967-68 in cannabis Sativa, and was later identified in India a couple years later. It was predicted to spread worldwide, and apparently has.
It was discovered by the Japanese in 1967. Several other types have also been observed since then, and most all have been linked to bug vectors, and are Bacterial.. They also have a very very hard time replicating it with PCR, but I believe they have just only recently been able to replicate it invitro.

The growing tips start turning purple black, distorted, and most of the time do not make it, and generally what does turn itself around is useless, and I wont smoke it, especially considering I strongly believe it is Bacterial. Most of the time the plants die, and my buddy has probably lost 3000 plants in the last 5-6 years.

Also the same strains do not do this inside, and from what I understand if seeds do make it through, the Bacteria is passed on.

I lost 8 packs G13/Hashplant, 4 Snow Lotus, Coastal Seeds Puck Yeah x 5 packs. Coastal Black Lights x 5 packs. 40 Blue Orca Haze, 40, NL5/Haze, 5 packs Dr Atomic Atomic Lights, 4 packs Mosca C99, THSeeds HOG x 5 packs. We also lost several more seeds/plants to this plague.

Its also NOT cold related, no purple genetics as this actually goes black, and necrotic/death. Also sometimes happens in Veg, but is most prevalent in early flowering, so my buddy still has this to look forward to. Hes already had it on some plants in veg this year, and many veg normally, and look beautiful, but as soon as they start flowering, they turn gnarly, and deformed/die.
Wow, this is news to me. It sounds like a lot of $$$ in HQ seeds down the drain!

I had to search online for phytoplasmas and see your posts over at THCF as well. I just downloaded the Hemp diseases book to see if they talk about it there.

Good luck over there! I am in a friendly state and if you were I would recommend taking it to state ag to have it analyzed.
 
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