How much does your grow cost!!!

HashBucket

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Well that's just silly, California as a state can't really "withhold" tax money as they don't touch it. Companies withhold taxes from employee checks and submit it directly, along with any corporate taxes due. And not a single company would dare attempt to withhold federal tax money. Furthermore, the federal government controls the banks, thus they control the flow of money.

Also, the idea that the federal government would go broke if they lost 13% of their revenue is a bit silly. The US government would essentially lose about 100 billion (456 billion or so in revenue from CA, and about 350 billion in expenditures in CA). Also noteworthy that per capita revenue from CA is much lower than half the states - it's really only CA's population that gives the state a high contribution level.

Furthermore, California is a very dependent state. Water, power, food, fuel ....California only has enough of these things for their population because of all those silly "leech" states that Californians like to bitch about "supporting". Pretty much all states are dependent on all the other states. The closest any state gets to being able to be "independent" is Texas and that's because they spent a ton of money doing it - setup their own power grid (no other state has their own power grid that could power their state if disconnected from the national power grid).
Yes. Well said. I'm too high right now to organize that many thoughts. Congrats. I'd of done it tomorrow. LoL You must be a long time resident of the late, great State of California.
Plus, if the Feds lost 13% in income - I wonder how much they'd save by not having to give so much money for the many disasters here.
 

HashBucket

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And don't take my post wrong, I'm not a California hater or anything.
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Oh and my "tree branch on a power line" comment was more of a statement to lead into the power companies not having immunity. Branches, wind, rain, whatever act of God is may be that brings down those power lines is what I was getting at.
I am not either. As I mentioned, I am a native and 66 years old. I just fear the changes I see. It's not good. Our infrastructure here IS CRUMBLING. And the taxes to do the maintenance KEEP GOING UP. The work doesn't get done, but the money flows ... away from the people.

As to the ''act of God" thing. I lost my home last year in the Carr Fire. Poof. That house had been in the same place for 30 years. So was the house next door to me, and the one across the street ... and 18 others in the neighborhood.

Know why they didn't burn the year after they were built?
The winds came that October like they always do. Know why they didn't burn? Because: PG&E maintained their equipment then, and, there were no tree huggers to stop the harvesting of our lumber crops.

That's not an 'act of God'.
 

RStone77

Active Member
Know why they didn't burn the year after they were built?
The winds came that October like they always do. Know why they didn't burn? Because: PG&E maintained their equipment then, and, there were no tree huggers to stop the harvesting of our lumber crops.

That's not an 'act of God'.
I hear you. And I wasn't trying to blame the out of control fires just on an "Act of God"... those things are going to happen no matter what. I have zero doubt that CA wouldn't constantly be on fire if things were properly management - like clearing of brush / lumber.
 

HashBucket

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I hear you. And I wasn't trying to blame the fire itself just on an "Act of God"... those things are going to happen no matter what. I have zero doubt that CA wouldn't constantly be on fire if things were properly management - like clearing of brush / lumber.
But, ya know ... it's not just that.
Everything is FUBAR here. It's amazing.
I used to party in San Francisco when I lived across the bay as a young man.
I chased hairy hippie girls in the Haight District in the late 60's. .
I chased disco girls in the 'Loin in the 70's.
I chased professional pants-suited girls in the Financial District in the 80's.
It was a beautiful city. Alive, vibrant.

Was.

You should see the homeless chit in Sacramento. Old Sac (near the railroad museum) used to be so fun.
It's dangerous now. Business strangled out.

It makes me sad.
 

doublejj

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Hopefully this Impeachment won't drag on too long and the Senate will do their job and evict this clown before he can do any more damage to our great country......as they say in DC..."Lock him up!"
 

iriemartin1974

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I drunk most nights for some time at a pub that had 24 hr strippers (proper ones not only to the G string fake strippers). You soon dont even notice them unless its a new girl and even then its not for long.
Yea the fake niceness for money is a turn off.. The Amsterdam trips just made sex more like a trip to see the doctor..
 

sandman83

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at the moment, doesn't cost me too much, electric rates are decent here. Once the summer temps kick in and I'm back to running ac 24/7 I'll probably kill the HPS and go down to LED only and a small tent.
 

HashBucket

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With all the clone only strains that California has, why would that even matter? We're good for life. For generations to come if we can keep our strains going!!!
Disagree.
I don't believe that marijuana is the savior of all.
It does not cure cancer, ruptured disk, a broken arm, or dandruff and athletes foot.
It does do a lot of good; but it is not the ONLY thing in the world.
I need civilization. And in order to grow, I need electricity, running clean water, roads that are in good repair ... all the trappings of a civilized society.
I don't think those things are too much to ask; especially with the taxes I pay.
I do NOT want to live in Somalia ... or another piss-hole country and be able to smoke weed all day ... not my idea of living.
 

Elwood Diggler

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Dude that's like a week's worth of weed you are growing. add in the cost of all the weed you have to buy while waiting for the next grow to finish an it will get expensive for an everyday smoker. I would personally need a 4x4 space filled out to be able to smoke all year would easily run $3000 to do it right. After the initial investment it shouldn't cost more than a few hundred a lb to grow
3k? Not even close
 

Lucky Luke

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Sure.
I'm not a citizen or resident, but wtf, it wouldn't be any more ridiculous or against your laws and constitution than what you have going on now.
There, you've successfully derailed. Are you thrilled with your big self?
Welcome newish member! Your not a citizen nor resident....are you like a figment of someones imagination?
Who's and what laws and Constitution are you talking about?
You a wannabe Mod?
Not really, I'm on a bit of a diet.
 

HashBucket

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You don't pay that much in taxes and you know it. Stop playing around. Out of everyone on the forum you pay the least amount of taxes here.
Neither me or President Trump will show you our tax returns, so you don't know that.
I am a W2 employee of a legal grow operation.
Since I was burned out of my home last year I am a renter; so I pay taxes.
Holey moley I pay taxes.
 

Hust17

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Some provinces have a lock on electricity. For example, Alberta is locked at 6.8c/kwh until 2021. Really noticeable coming from a place like BC.

edit: i believe Albertans reached that 6.8 mark in March 2018 as well, so could be some hurt coming in year and a bit.
 
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