Mayor Pete!

[abandonconflict]

You can't address that point. Your opinion on CU is effectively nullified by supporting someone that benefits from it. Why support a candidate that does something you oppose? Why continue to pretend the money Buttigieg takes has no influence over the policies he espouses?

I have never mentioned CU on this forum.

I don't really care about it all that much. It was a scotus thing. It's part of the fucked up system. It's there bro. I didn't vote on it.

You talk about supporting something that has nothing to do with my support.

You're dumb.

 

[abandonconflict]

he tried ?? How ? He fired the black police chief only to hire whom ? why so fast to fire the guy. He fired him before he found out the truth.

Can you point me to what you read? That sounds pretty fucked up.

 

[londonfog]

Can you point me to what you read? That sounds pretty fucked up.

simply Google " why was Darryl Boykins fired "

 

[abandonconflict]

simply Google " why was Darryl Boykins fired "

I wasn't aware that his firing was racially motivated. If I was mayor, almost anywhere, firing the police chief sounds like a good card I might just play.

I'll look more into that though. I really wasn't aware of what you mentioned.

 

[londonfog]

hopefully I will not have to vote for Pete. He is not ready at all for the job as POTUS.

in the days following, the details of Boykins’s alleged wiretap emerged. In 2011, police communications director Karen DePaepe noticed she had been recording officers’ phone lines, capturing conversations between Tim Corbett, Dave Wells, and Steve Richmond, along with Capt. Brian Young and his wife Sandy. DePaepe listened to some of the recordings and claimed she heard racist banter about Boykins in some of the conversations. She then reported this to Boykins, who in turn castigated his officers for what they had thought were private remarks. These officers complained to the FBI, who began an investigation as early as the spring of 2011. When Buttigieg asked for Boykins’s resignation, neither man had heard the tapes—and Buttigieg refused to do so, fearing it might be illegal or an infringement on a federal investigation

Yeah Pete = Hell no

 

[Padawanbater2]

I don't really care about it all that much. It was a scotus thing.

Do you believe billionaires/corporations have more influence over the democratic process than average Americans?

 

[londonfog]

Do you believe billionaires/corporations have more influence over the democratic process than average Americans?

why do you ask stupid question were the answer is already known

 

[Padawanbater2]

why do you ask stupid question were the answer is already known

If you do, you would care about the Citizens United decision

 

[londonfog]

If you do, you would care about the Citizens United decision

I did and hated it.

 

[Padawanbater2]

I did and hated it.

I agree, because I don't believe billionaires/corporations should have more influence than average Americans when it comes to democracy

The campaign finance issue is the single most important issue we face today, bigger and more immediate than even climate change, because it affects every other issue down the line. If we can't reign in the fact that billionaires are buying elections by purchasing the influence of politicians, we can never affect actual change on things like healthcare, war, education, drugs, etc.

Saying you're not that worried about Citizens United on a political forum is like saying you're not that worried about cholesterol on a cardiology forum

 

[londonfog]

I agree, because I don't believe billionaires/corporations should have more influence than average Americans when it comes to democracy

The campaign finance issue is the single most important issue we face today, bigger and more immediate than even climate change, because it affects every other issue down the line. If we can't reign in the fact that billionaires are buying elections by purchasing the influence of politicians, we can never affect actual change on things like healthcare, war, education, drugs, etc.

Saying you're not that worried about Citizens United on a political forum is like saying you're not that worried about cholesterol on a cardiology forum

I was not liking Pete long before his wine tasting party

 

[Padawanbater2]

I was not liking Pete long before his wine tasting party

Do you have a favored candidate this go around?

 

[abandonconflict]

hopefully I will not have to vote for Pete. He is not ready at all for the job as POTUS.

in the days following, the details of Boykins’s alleged wiretap emerged. In 2011, police communications director Karen DePaepe noticed she had been recording officers’ phone lines, capturing conversations between Tim Corbett, Dave Wells, and Steve Richmond, along with Capt. Brian Young and his wife Sandy. DePaepe listened to some of the recordings and claimed she heard racist banter about Boykins in some of the conversations. She then reported this to Boykins, who in turn castigated his officers for what they had thought were private remarks. These officers complained to the FBI, who began an investigation as early as the spring of 2011. When Buttigieg asked for Boykins’s resignation, neither man had heard the tapes—and Buttigieg refused to do so, fearing it might be illegal or an infringement on a federal investigation

Yeah Pete = Hell no

I mean...

I won't try to talk you down from this but I'm going to have to read a bit more I guess.

I still think he's better than bernie's old ass. I have made some serious mistakes and I'm the same age as this guy. I don't think I could ever be ready for that office.

 

[hanimmal]

May I ask? Are you affiliated with Pete's campaign as a volunteer or even a paid internet campaigner ?

You asked it politely, but I think if you would have done a search on it you would have seen AC opinions on the candidates, but calling someone out like you did in what looks like your first post in this part of the forum would not go well. Please understand people have been hammered here for years by foreign trolls and mostly take a zero tolerance stance on new people.

LOL.

A pardon is not possible for impeachment.
Once the impeachment case is forwarded to the Senate, he will be impeached and the Senate will vote on removal.
The Senate will acquit, and it'll be over.

He is your impeached president now, and he will be in three years, and in the meantime he will continue to seat judges, build walls, enlarge the military, and cut taxes.
He is your impeached president.

And then he will break the law again and trigger another impeachment.

And lol at build walls. How many new feet of wall has he built? How much money has he pulled away from the military to be able to show construction on the parts of the wall that Obama/Bush had already had built, (which have already proven to be worthless as people just cut through them or climbed them).

 

[abandonconflict]

simply Google " why was Darryl Boykins fired "

Yeah I see what you mean now. The way he handled that case was very likely a contributing factor to the department's increased homicide rate. He should have taken Boykins's side in order to get that department under control. Darryl Boykins should have been the guy to get all those racist officers under control.

It was a mistake on that young mayor's part. It underscores all of those efforts I did actually read about in regard to his efforts to fix the problem. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

 

[hanimmal]

Ok. Ok.
He is impeached.
Now what?

Now we get you to understand the Russian/Foreign trolls election interference.

 

[schuylaar]

Since you of all people are broaching this subject, I will lay it out. I don't think you love him either.

I can't stand him, but if he wins the DNC nomination, I just don't see him getting very far without making some compromises with the party. If he can do that, he might have a chance of having some effect as president. I doubt that it is possible. I don't think he will get anything done. I actually don't think he will be able to get anything passed that will increase taxes by a whole lot. He won't be able to pass M4A.

Therefore, he's not actually such a threat. Why should I worry about huge tax hikes, if he really has very little chance of getting them passed?

As for you, I can admire your willingness to pay much more tax for something that will probably show you very little benefit. What I have a problem with in general, is that people are following this Bernard shitstain with such enthusiasm and so very little understanding of the economics of his proposals. He's just a terrible candidate. But blue no matter who, in 2020, is pragmatically sound, as long as sweeping economic changes are not too sweeping.

To be certain of what I am suggesting, it's that his terrible single-payer bill will actually make the goal of single-payer unobtainable because he's trying to force it down everyone's throat with huge tax hikes or massive debt. Some things take time. The system is too broken for immediate nationalization.

presented without comment.

 

[schuylaar]

Yeah I see what you mean now. The way he handled that case was very likely a contributing factor to the department's increased homicide rate. He should have taken Boykins's side in order to get that department under control. Darryl Boykins should have been the guy to get all those racist officers under control.

It was a mistake on that young mayor's part. It underscores all of those efforts I did actually read about in regard to his efforts to fix the problem. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

yes, he has much to learn.

 

[hanimmal]

I agree, because I don't believe billionaires/corporations should have more influence than average Americans when it comes to democracy

The campaign finance issue is the single most important issue we face today, bigger and more immediate than even climate change, because it affects every other issue down the line. If we can't reign in the fact that billionaires are buying elections by purchasing the influence of politicians, we can never affect actual change on things like healthcare, war, education, drugs, etc.

Saying you're not that worried about Citizens United on a political forum is like saying you're not that worried about cholesterol on a cardiology forum

Citizens United sucked, and is a means to keep power in the hands of the Wealthy White Heterosexual Males. But at least they are Americans.

I disagree that we cannot affect change in those categories, we just need to make a better case on why it actually helps them and their businesses instead of demonizing them and their hard work. The old ways of doing things in business is losing efficiency as we move into a cleaner and more technologically based economy.

Edit: The best way to fix Citizens United is to get Democrats 60 Senate seats, the House, and Presidency again, hopefully when there is not a major economic depression caused by the Republicans as they hand over control of the government.

 

[schuylaar]

At least he doesn't promise a world of free shit with no way to pay for it while quietly proposing an increase of the top statutory federal income tax rate to 77% and at least isn't a senile old fool. He is a 39 year old combat vet who graduated MCL from fucking Harvard. THEN he joined the fucking military because he felt it was unfair that there was so much disparity in enlistment numbers between rich and poor. He earned some medals for being the "military uber" driving around hotzones.

You bitch about money in politics but have no problem selling your vote for free shit.

investing in our people and country is a good thing..sure you're not a rightie, Abandon?