Mayor Pete!

Fogdog

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Hey everyone,
So somewhat of a opposing view guy here, I'm actually a trump fan, however I'm very interested in the democratic primary because it seems like they're going through a bit of a transition in values. It's exciting for me because it's very likely whoever has nominated is going to be drastically different from the traditional candidate. It seems like thee younger generations of the country want a change in the system. It's only becoming more and more apparent. So whether it's this election or the next, serious change is coming to this country. I'm all about Andrew Yang. I'd be curious if anyone else here thinks he's a good choice. I like his ideas and his mentality towards solving problem. What do you guys think?
I've never given Yang much of a look because he was just one of 24 candidates with no chance. What is it about Yang that you like?
 

ElfoodStampo

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Well he continues to be present at the debates, he's definitely in the top 6. I think he's correct about automation and how we will loose a lot of jobs because of it. He uses the health and happiness as a barometer for success instead of GDP. He seems different.
 

Fogdog

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Well he continues to be present at the debates, he's definitely in the top 6. I think he's correct about automation and how we will loose a lot of jobs because of it. He uses the health and happiness as a barometer for success instead of GDP. He seems different.
He's different alright.

I don't want another political dilettante as president. Especially immediately after the political dilettante presidency of Donald Trump. We need somebody who can lead rather than direct.
 

ElfoodStampo

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He's different alright.

I don't want another political dilettante as president. Especially immediately after the political dilettante presidency of Donald Trump. We need somebody who can lead rather than direct.
The only establishment candidate for the Democrats is Joe Biden. It doesn't look like he'll get much further though. Everyone else is in some form or fashion, a derivation from a Hillary Clinton or Nancy pelocy. That what I meant by saying there's a shift in the party. Democrats are becoming more socialists in mindset. I'm it saying that's bad or good, it's. Just further from the middle . Anyhow, even though you may not want an ameture, it's evident ,by the billable choices, that the majority of Democrats do. I'm genuinely excited to see who gets it.
 

Fogdog

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The only establishment candidate for the Democrats is Joe Biden. It doesn't look like he'll get much further though. Everyone else is in some form or fashion, a derivation from a Hillary Clinton or Nancy pelocy. That what I meant by saying there's a shift in the party. Democrats are becoming more socialists in mindset. I'm it saying that's bad or good, it's. Just further from the middle . Anyhow, even though you may not want an ameture, it's evident ,by the billable choices, that the majority of Democrats do. I'm genuinely excited to see who gets it.
I didn't say establishment. I said experienced. There are experienced candidates in this race who have shown the ability to lead and work well with others. You voted for Trump, so I'm not exactly caring about your feelings about Warren or Klobuchar who have the leadership chops that Yang lacks.
 

Padawanbater2

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Citation required. You have to link the article
It's from the Intercept, and it's linked in the bottom of the post you quoted

If Sanders lied about the endorsements of hundreds of prominent African Americans, pretty sure you and the other sycophants would have claimed he's racist, why do you give Pete a pass for that?
 

hanimmal

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The only establishment candidate for the Democrats is Joe Biden. It doesn't look like he'll get much further though. Everyone else is in some form or fashion, a derivation from a Hillary Clinton or Nancy pelocy. That what I meant by saying there's a shift in the party. Democrats are becoming more socialists in mindset. I'm it saying that's bad or good, it's. Just further from the middle . Anyhow, even though you may not want an ameture, it's evident ,by the billable choices, that the majority of Democrats do. I'm genuinely excited to see who gets it.
Klobachard is right there too. Unless you meant old white guy, I mean policy wise.

They are not becoming 'more socialist', the Right is just painting them that way and using sophisticated online tools to hype the ones that always have been more left.
 

ElfoodStampo

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I didn't say establishment. I said experienced. There are experienced candidates in this race who have shown the ability to lead and work well with others. You voted for Trump, so I'm not exactly caring about your feelings about Warren or Klobuchar who have the leadership chops that Yang lacks.
Who said I voted for trump? Warren is a pathological liar and no one likes klobuchar. It's the reason there isn't a clear front runner yet. Everyone is kinda weak, there isn't a JFK in the 2020 race. But at some point all the Democrats are going to have to get behind one person. There are so many factions right now though that dislike each other that I'm interested to see how they coaless at the end.
 

hanimmal

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Who said I voted for trump? Warren is a pathological liar and no one likes klobuchar. It's the reason there isn't a clear front runner yet. Everyone is kinda weak, there isn't a JFK in the 2020 race. But at some point all the Democrats are going to have to get behind one person. There are so many factions right now though that dislike each other that I'm interested to see how they coaless at the end.
We don't need a cult leader in the Democratic party too.

What you are describing btw is the exact gameplay that the Russians used to get Trump nominated in 2016. The benefit of this election is that we (the American public) have at least outside of the bubbles the Russians and Trump trolls (foreign and domestic) have created for people to stay inside of. It is just a question of if the information gets to enough Americans or if the online war wins Trump and the Republicans another 4 years.

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Fogdog

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Who said I voted for trump? Warren is a pathological liar and no one likes klobuchar. It's the reason there isn't a clear front runner yet. Everyone is kinda weak, there isn't a JFK in the 2020 race. But at some point all the Democrats are going to have to get behind one person. There are so many factions right now though that dislike each other that I'm interested to see how they coaless at the end.
^"I'm actually a trump fan "

Not interested in splitting hairs. Given your support for Trump in spite of his corrupt and traitorous actions that caused him to be impeached, I'm not exactly interested in your views on Warren or Klobuchar.

Republikkkans have spun it otherwise but most people in this country wanted the senate trial of the impeached Trump to be more substantial. It's going to come back and bite them this fall.
 

ElfoodStampo

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^"I'm actually a trump fan "

Not interested in splitting hairs. Given your support for Trump in spite of his corrupt and traitorous actions that caused him to be impeached, I'm not exactly interested in your views on Warren or Klobuchar.

Republikkkans have spun it otherwise but most people in this country wanted the senate trial of the impeached Trump to be more substantial. It's going to come back and bite them this fall.
I've noticed you make a lot of presumptions about me. As if you're mind was made up for you before even reading what I have to say. I dont get your hyper sensitivity, and the KKK was started by Democrats, there's no reason to throw insults.
 

hanimmal

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I've noticed you make a lot of presumptions about me. As if you're mind was made up for you before even reading what I have to say. I dont get your hyper sensitivity, and the KKK was started by Democrats, there's no reason to throw insults.
I am not sure if I gave you the obligatory 'you have a ignore button if you feel you are being attacked' message, or not.

But it is worth understanding that every day people are joining up with new accounts here that start out decent enough, but eventually get shown to just be trolling the forum with a new sock puppet. Don't take it personal, people here have been under attack by the Russians/Saudi/Chinese/Racist/Evangelical trolls since at least 2009.
 

ElfoodStampo

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I am not sure if I gave you the obligatory 'you have a ignore button if you feel you are being attacked' message, or not.

But it is worth understanding that every day people are joining up with new accounts here that start out decent enough, but eventually get shown to just be trolling the forum with a new sock puppet. Don't take it personal, people here have been under attack by the Russians/Saudi/Chinese/Racist/Evangelical trolls since at least 2009.
What makes America great is we are a combination of Russians, Saudi, Chinese, racists, evangelicals, communists, socialists, atheists, all of it. Everyone has a voice and the strongest win. If you believe Russians won't Donald trump the presidency, I believe you will be in for a rude awakening in 2020. Even if Andrew Yang is nominated I don't believe there will be enough support within the democratic party to win the election. This is what intrigues me about the dem. Party at the moment. i believe the infighting might cost them the election.
 

hanimmal

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What makes America great is we are a combination of Russians, Saudi, Chinese, racists, evangelicals, communists, socialists, atheists, all of it. Everyone has a voice and the strongest win. If you believe Russians won't Donald trump the presidency, I believe you will be in for a rude awakening in 2020. Even if Andrew Yang is nominated I don't believe there will be enough support within the democratic party to win the election. This is what intrigues me about the dem. Party at the moment. i believe the infighting might cost them the election.
It is not the American voters that I am talking about however, it is Trump getting help from foreign governments/entities that is the problem, and is illegal.



Trump won by 80,000 votes across a handful of states in 2016, with a couple year head start on Russian/Saudi election interference. Fortunately this time they won't have the same timeframe to help Trump with the election. Not that they are not trying.

2018 was a landslide for the Democrats, so we shall see how 2020 goes. I think Trump is hated enough to give the win to the Democrats.
 

hanimmal

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These are facts. Sanders got more lgbtq votes during the Iowa primary(won the popular vote) as well as African American votes and Latin Americans.


Donald Trump has higher black support than Peter

Google is your friend, but you're afraid of facts that contradict your echo chamber.



Google 'Cognitive dissonance'
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lol you are impressing me with the demographics of Iowa.
 

hanimmal

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Pete got Emerson and CNN to spike the polls that showed Sanders leading pre-caucus and then is shown donating thousands to the company 'shadow' which made the app for the primary Caucasus, the app is bugged and is shown favoring everyone but Sanders.View attachment 4476426
Now he's talking about mandatory service for 18 year olds...

The guy is a fraud who lost the popular vote and won big with the coin flip demographic the of the Democratic base.
Rat faced Pete won't win.View attachment 4476429

Pete can't win
Is 18-44 the actual count for those categories?
 

UncleBuck

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I've noticed you make a lot of presumptions about me. As if you're mind was made up for you before even reading what I have to say. I dont get your hyper sensitivity, and the KKK was started by Democrats, there's no reason to throw insults.
oh look

This trump trash, who thinks sandy hook was a hoax, is against insults!

How precious

The kkk endorsed trump btw, you garbage can
 
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