Help With First Guerilla Grow

[welderjesus69]

I'm planning on starting my first grow this month. It will be a guerilla grow outdoors since marijuana is still illegal where I live in Ky. After doing a lot of research on these forums this is what Ive decided:

-I have 3 really good concealed locations picked out. I plan on growing 4 plants at each location because anything over 4 plants where I live is considered a felony.

-I am starting from seedlings using the following strains: Colombian gold Fem and south African Kwazalu fem from world of seeds along with critical super silver haze fem from delicious seeds. I decided on these strains because its very hot and humid in my location and we can also receive lots of rain sometimes so after some research and questions on this forum I came to the conclusion that a sativa dominant strain would be better for my location and have better mold resistance.

- I plan on growing directly into the ground but instead of using the native soil I decided to dig holes and fill the bottom third of the hole with Subb's organic super soil then the rest back in with base soil, then covering the top with some native mulch to help keep moisture in. I am doing this in hopes that I can achieve high yields without having to worry about much nutrition deficiencies and to not do much more than water my plants when need be in order to stay out of sight as much as possible.

My question is how deep and wide should I dig each hole before filling back in with soil?
And after germinating the seeds I wont be able to start them out indoors under lights or outside around the house where I would be able to keep them out during the day and bring them in at night. And I would rather not put the seedling directly into the ground yet and out in the open because there is a lot of wildlife in the area and pests not to mention a lot of direct sunlight and potential for bad weather. I would rather start them out in small pots somewhere they would be protected until they get a good start and the roots have grown a solid foundation. I was brainstorming some ideas like maybe building a 6x6 square box out of 2 by 4s and then covering it with a shade screen or some type of clear plastic like a mini green house then placing it out in the bush somewhere hidden and starting them out in that until they are big enough to plant directly into the soil. I attached a few photos of something similar just for an idea of what I'm talking about.

Any suggestions and information would be much appreciated. I'm all ears and here to learn so thanks for any advice!

 

[Snoopy808]

Bigger the hole the bigger the plant so take that in mind for concealment. Dig your holes as deep as possible, so only your plants get the ferts. In grassy areas the fert runoff, or close by plants will make green bullseyes for choppers.

I have sprouted lots of seeds in the bush. My seedling cage was made of 1/4 inch welded wire hardware screen. No birds, or rodents can get in. But slugs and snails can.
Then covered with plastic and in partial sun. Its cannabis, weed, very hardy. Expect some leggy, stretchy starts under the plastic.

SLUG AND SNAIL BAIT!! Liquid over dry and metaldehyde not iron phosphate. With the liquid you can literally draw a line around your cage.

 

[ganga gurl420]

Bigger the hole the bigger the plant so take that in mind for concealment. Dig your holes as deep as possible, so only your plants get the ferts. In grassy areas the fert runoff, or close by plants will make green bullseyes for choppers.

I have sprouted lots of seeds in the bush. My seedling cage was made of 1/4 inch welded wire hardware screen. No birds, or rodents can get in. But slugs and snails can.
Then covered with plastic and in partial sun. Its cannabis, weed, very hardy. Expect some leggy, stretchy starts under the plastic.

SLUG AND SNAIL BAIT!! Liquid over dry and metaldehyde not iron phosphate. With the liquid you can literally draw a line around your cage.

Dude...alls you have to do is put a bowl of beer out and the snails and slugs will want nothing to do with your plant. They will all be in the beer bowl. We as growers have to get out of the mind set of having to use poison and general crap for every problem.

Btw the pic is a bowl that was out for just 10 hours. I was pulling off 30 slugs every morning...put the bowl out and no more problems.

 

[Snoopy808]

Thats sweet darling but homie is in the bush not his home garden. In the bush rats and other critters will drink beer. It can evaporate, get tipped over or filled with rain. Iron phosphate dough bait just attracts them and very slowly kills them.
Deadline II (2), liquid metaldehyde, will repel and kill slugs and snail for at least a week in rainy weather. Slugs and snails will decimate young sprouts in the bush FAST!
Beer does work somewhat but is far far far less effective and long lasting. IMO ive used it in my food gardens but never really is that effective in slug or snail control. Catch more bugs and attract hella wasps and flies. I just put out bigger starts so slugs aint no issue, and over seed when direct seeding so damage is nothing.
But in the bush you dont want half assed measures especially with young sprouts.

 

[ganga gurl420]

I'm planning on starting my first grow this month. It will be a guerilla grow outdoors since marijuana is still illegal where I live in Ky. After doing a lot of research on these forums this is what Ive decided:

-I have 3 really good concealed locations picked out. I plan on growing 4 plants at each location because anything over 4 plants where I live is considered a felony.

-I am starting from seedlings using the following strains: Colombian gold Fem and south African Kwazalu fem from world of seeds along with critical super silver haze fem from delicious seeds. I decided on these strains because its very hot and humid in my location and we can also receive lots of rain sometimes so after some research and questions on this forum I came to the conclusion that a sativa dominant strain would be better for my location and have better mold resistance.

- I plan on growing directly into the ground but instead of using the native soil I decided to dig holes and fill the bottom third of the hole with Subb's organic super soil then the rest back in with base soil, then covering the top with some native mulch to help keep moisture in. I am doing this in hopes that I can achieve high yields without having to worry about much nutrition deficiencies and to not do much more than water my plants when need be in order to stay out of sight as much as possible.

My question is how deep and wide should I dig each hole before filling back in with soil?
And after germinating the seeds I wont be able to start them out indoors under lights or outside around the house where I would be able to keep them out during the day and bring them in at night. And I would rather not put the seedling directly into the ground yet and out in the open because there is a lot of wildlife in the area and pests not to mention a lot of direct sunlight and potential for bad weather. I would rather start them out in small pots somewhere they would be protected until they get a good start and the roots have grown a solid foundation. I was brainstorming some ideas like maybe building a 6x6 square box out of 2 by 4s and then covering it with a shade screen or some type of clear plastic like a mini green house then placing it out in the bush somewhere hidden and starting them out in that until they are big enough to plant directly into the soil. I attached a few photos of something similar just for an idea of what I'm talking about.

Any suggestions and information would be much appreciated. I'm all ears and here to learn so thanks for any advice!

Well if I may add my 2 cents... you have a great plan for sure, but I've seen a lot of ppl have issues with subs recipe. They get soil tests done and sometimes its WAYY too hot.

My advice (and I'm a strictly organic grower) is to use a pre blended mix like epsoma tomato tone or garden tone.
Its wonderful and the added bonus is its loaded with all the benificial fungi and bacteria. My plants THRIVE on it. I also mix a bit of fox farms happy frog bulb food in.

Also I would look into mixing some polymer crystals into the soil if you wont be there to keep an eye on them often. This will help water them if its dry and keep moisture at bay if there is too much rain.
Either way tho sounds like you have a great game plan. Good luck

 

[Snoopy808]

Moisture crystals are a good idea.

Hydrate fully first. If put in the hole dry or not at least 75% hydrated....the next heavy rains will heave the plant out of the hole as the crystals swell up and get big.

 

[welderjesus69]

Well if I may add my 2 cents... you have a great plan for sure, but I've seen a lot of ppl have issues with subs recipe. They get soil tests done and sometimes its WAYY too hot.

My advice (and I'm a strictly organic grower) is to use a pre blended mix like epsoma tomato tone or garden tone.
Its wonderful and the added bonus is its loaded with all the benificial fungi and bacteria. My plants THRIVE on it. I also mix a bit of fox farms happy frog bulb food in.

Also I would look into mixing some polymer crystals into the soil if you wont be there to keep an eye on them often. This will help water them if its dry and keep moisture at bay if there is too much rain.
Either way tho sounds like you have a great game plan. Good luck

I already have the ingridients on hand for subs recipe or I would try out your suggestion. Do you have to cook the epsoma as well? and do you have to add aditional nutes throughout the grow? Ive read on some posts where people said subs was hot. Do you think it was from not being cooked right? I am planning on cutting down some on the amounts of each ingredient.
That beer bowl is pretty cool I've never seen that done before.

 

[welderjesus69]

Bigger the hole the bigger the plant so take that in mind for concealment. Dig your holes as deep as possible, so only your plants get the ferts. In grassy areas the fert runoff, or close by plants will make green bullseyes for choppers.

I have sprouted lots of seeds in the bush. My seedling cage was made of 1/4 inch welded wire hardware screen. No birds, or rodents can get in. But slugs and snails can.
Then covered with plastic and in partial sun. Its cannabis, weed, very hardy. Expect some leggy, stretchy starts under the plastic.

SLUG AND SNAIL BAIT!! Liquid over dry and metaldehyde not iron phosphate. With the liquid you can literally draw a line around your cage.

Thanks for the info. I'll probably give the seedling cage a go. Ive got a roll of 1/4 screen on hand already I use for sifting for arrowheads. Do you put the plastic all the way around the cage? Or leave any opening for ventilation?

 

[ganga gurl420]

I already have the ingridients on hand for subs recipe or I would try out your suggestion. Do you have to cook the epsoma as well? and do you have to add aditional nutes throughout the grow? Ive read on some posts where people said subs was hot. Do you think it was from not being cooked right? I am planning on cutting down some on the amounts of each ingredient.
That beer bowl is pretty cool I've never seen that done before.

The bulb food I actually make a hole in the soil in 4 spots between the plant and the edge of the soil I'm using and fill it half way up with the food. It works as a feeding spike for flowering.
The espoma you do not have to cook no...and the mixture is neither hot or lacking in anything other then it needs a bit more magnesium. (Tho marijuana tends to like more mg) so I just water with epsom salt and molasses every 2 weeks.

You are suppose to top dress lightly the espoma once a month but i only do it once in july.

I used to use the garden tone but I'm switching to their tomato tone because it is higher in calcium.

I will be guerilla growing as well this yr since things came up where I couldn't grow in my usual spot.

I grow in amended manure (no dirt soil) and last grow I did my best plant pulled a little more then 7 pounds dry. Not bad for up here in norther wisconsin where it doesnt snow for 4 months of the yr lol. Now that I wont have my 400 gallon boxes anymore and probably only doing 50 gallon holes in the ground we will see what I can pull off.

And yes ...the beer thing is awesome. Glad you like it!

 

[Snoopy808]

Depends on how cold its going to be. Likely mostly coveted with plastic to sprout, but not baking hot, like a humidity dome things. Sometimes ill cut slits for ventilation if needed. Or just leave the narrow ends kinda open for airflow if not too cold. Then 3/4 or half once sprouted. Heavy rain can break and kill young sprouts or drown the plants killing them too. So if you cant get to your zone regularly leave it on till old enough to handle rain.

 

[welderjesus69]

Depends on how cold its going to be. Likely mostly coveted with plastic to sprout, but not baking hot, like a humidity dome things. Sometimes ill cut slits for ventilation if needed. Or just leave the narrow ends kinda open for airflow if not too cold. Then 3/4 or half once sprouted. Heavy rain can break and kill young sprouts or drown the plants killing them too. So if you cant get to your zone regularly leave it on till old enough to handle rain.

Ok that makes sense. Thanks for the advice.

 

[welderjesus69]

The bulb food I actually make a hole in the soil in 4 spots between the plant and the edge of the soil I'm using and fill it half way up with the food. It works as a feeding spike for flowering.
The espoma you do not have to cook no...and the mixture is neither hot or lacking in anything other then it needs a bit more magnesium. (Tho marijuana tends to like more mg) so I just water with epsom salt and molasses every 2 weeks.

You are suppose to top dress lightly the espoma once a month but i only do it once in july.

I used to use the garden tone but I'm switching to their tomato tone because it is higher in calcium.

I will be guerilla growing as well this yr since things came up where I couldn't grow in my usual spot.

I grow in amended manure (no dirt soil) and last grow I did my best plant pulled a little more then 7 pounds dry. Not bad for up here in norther wisconsin where it doesnt snow for 4 months of the yr lol. Now that I wont have my 400 gallon boxes anymore and probably only doing 50 gallon holes in the ground we will see what I can pull off.

And yes ...the beer thing is awesome. Glad you like it!

That sounds like a good setup. I'll have to give that a try on my next go around. Wow 7lbs off one that has to be an awesome feeling of accomplishment lol. Especially the area you're growing. Thanks for the advice.

 

[ganga gurl420]

That sounds like a good setup. I'll have to give that a try on my next go around. Wow 7lbs off one that has to be an awesome feeling of accomplishment lol. Especially the area you're growing. Thanks for the advice.

Yes It took yrs trying to figure out how to grow in an area that only doesnt snow for 4 months. Average night temps are 50s and 60s in summer and they go through lots of frosts before they come down. I think the key for me is the manure because it keeps the roots warm even when its chilly out. Before I used manure.. the plants didnt take to frosts well and harvest yields were lacking.

 

[welderjesus69]

Yes It took yrs trying to figure out how to grow in an area that only doesnt snow for 4 months. Average night temps are 50s and 60s in summer and they go through lots of frosts before they come down. I think the key for me is the manure because it keeps the roots warm even when its chilly out. Before I used manure.. the plants didnt take to frosts well View attachment 4529869and harvest yields were lacking.

Damn, those are some good looking plants. It looks like you got it all figured out now though!

 

[welderjesus69]

So I ended up getting a small tent setup to get my plants started before taking outside. I started out germinating 7 seeds to make sure everything would work out right before doing the rest. I soaked them in water for 24 hours and put them straight into a burpee self watering seed starter kit under cfls with a heating pad last sunday. I now have 6 out of 7 popped. My question is should I go ahead and transplant to something bigger? Bc a few plants have tap roots starting to come out of the bottom hole of tray. It's only been 6 days since putting seeds in the ground so wasn't sure if that was too early.

 

[H1ghTime]

Hows your water supply, is there a near by creek you can pump from, etc?

Make sure you fence it all off from all those crtitters.