Dinafem, is this a good breeder?

thenotsoesoteric

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Total bullshit

People get hung up on sellers as a brand. That's it. What you get from a packet of cannabis seeds will vary every single time. The less variation the better the breeder has worked that line. Truth is that's often not a lot.

If you believe that a hybrid of two cannabis plants "can't" possibly produce a certain quality of bud, just because of the name of the seedbank, then you'll believe anything.

I'll tell you this little secret, there's a strain from dinafem which turned into a well known cut over here in the UK which was from one of their lines. It was given a different name tho, something with "cookies" in it. And people lapped it up.

The fella that posted this above quote, has probably bought a few "quads" which he's been told are something completely different. Cannabis is all about fashionable names right now and, like anything else, we perceive quality before we even look for it. If some clothes don't have a certain brand name on them some people won't buy them. They can be made in the same fuckin sweatshop and people will swear they're of a lower quality.

I say this out of experience. I grew Ethos, Dinafem, And Bodhi in one run. The dinafem was a freebie as well, Kush & Cheese. The thing was the keeper out of the lot.
I had a freebie power kush from dinafem was probably the strongest weed I've ever grown.

Boring taste but a rocket anxiety inducing keep you up all night stone. Made us a lot of cash, allegedly.
 

nc208

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Don't get me wrong, genetics do matter. But there's a lot of misconceptions about weed based on hype and marketing. There are only so many lines to work with and only so many terpene profiles and growth structures. But what's going on these days with cannabis seeds, in my opinion, was summed up by that quote... you won't find this level of quality in a Dinafem pack. That absoutely goes against the truth, because what will come from a packet of seeds is often anyones guess. You can spend hundreds on an attitude order of something you've waited to "drop" for ages, then find the best plant in a freebie from a company and a seed line you'd never have thought to even look at before.

Every one of us must have done this by now.
Dinafem sucks. Lame perfume tasting crap, maybe they were good once upon a time but cant say I've seen them picking up any kind of awards in the last few years while other breeders are making leaps and bounds in terms of terp profiles and thc.

Cannarados Fatso from phinest tested at 36% thc.
Symbiotics cherry punch has hit over 5% in terp profile.
Seed Junky crushes with every drop and I could keep naming breeders putting out straight fire but somehow Dinafem never gets mention.
 

conor c

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Dinafem sucks. Lame perfume tasting crap, maybe they were good once upon a time but cant say I've seen them picking up any kind of awards in the last few years while other breeders are making leaps and bounds in terms of terp profiles and thc.

Cannarados Fatso from phinest tested at 36% thc.
Symbiotics cherry punch has hit over 5% in terp profile.
Seed Junky crushes with every drop and I could keep naming breeders putting out straight fire but somehow Dinafem never gets mention.
Thats maybe your experience id say your in the minority most growers would say there good your clearly of the opinion thc is everything it isnt sure its important but a 36% strain may not feel like it hits as hard as say certain strains at 20 or 25% other cannabinoids and terps shape the experience plenty ime
 

nc208

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Thats maybe your experience id say your in the minority most growers would say there good your clearly of the opinion thc is everything it isnt sure its important but a 36% strain may not feel like it hits as hard as say certain strains at 20 or 25% other cannabinoids and terps shape the experience plenty ime
Weird. According to the strain and seedbank section here how come theres no dinafem thread? In fact when anyone asks a thread about what to pop, again Dinafem doesn't get mentioned. You may want to rethink who is In the minority here bud. Look at emerald cup and spannabis and again Dinarem strains arent winning or doing anything.

Also why do you assume I only care about high thc? This shows your ignorance when I clearly showed the example of symbitics strains reaching a terp profile of 5 percent. That's the entourage effect right there.
 

Gentlemencorpse

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Weird. According to the strain and seedbank section here how come theres no dinafem thread? In fact when anyone asks a thread about what to pop, again Dinafem doesn't get mentioned. You may want to rethink who is In the minority here bud. Look at emerald cup and spannabis and again Dinarem strains arent winning or doing anything.

Also why do you assume I only care about high thc? This shows your ignorance when I clearly showed the example of symbitics strains reaching a terp profile of 5 percent. That's the entourage effect right there.
There's no Dinafem thread for a variety of reasons. RIU is a US based forum that tends to support US based breeders. In fact theres a largely unfounded disdain for European breeders here. People routinely shit on the Dutch breeders here ... I've been to Amsterdam and I can tell you the Dutch can breed some damn fine cannabis. I've also grown some Dinafem strains, most recently Critical+ 2.0 and its been a good experience all around.

Its also just not trendy to be into old school European breeders in general right now. Maybe they should start naming their strains after desserts. :bigjoint:

That being said, I actually agree with your original breeder recommendations. If OP is in the US s/he should be looking at places like JBC Seeds, DC Seed Exchange, Great Lakes Genetics, Oregon Elite, Area 51 Seedbank or even buying direct from breeders like Eso's. Its not that Dinafem isn't good IMO, its just why deal with international shipping and buying from an overseas breeder when straight fire is being bred right here at home.
 

coppershot

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In fact theres a largely unfounded disdain for European breeders here.
People routinely shit on the Dutch breeders here...

Its also just not trendy to be into old school European breeders in general right now. Maybe they should start naming their strains after desserts.
Imo this has more to do with the fact that many Euro breeders, including some bigger names, buy mass produced seeds made in Spain. Karma as an example is Euro, but gets love cause he puts in the work and is true to his craft.
 

Gentlemencorpse

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Imo this has more to do with the fact that many Euro breeders, including some bigger names, buy mass produced seeds made in Spain. Karma as an example is Euro, but gets love cause he puts in the work and is true to his craft.
Yeah, that's a good point. But I still feel like a lot of euro breeders get too much hate. I'll always have a soft spot for Sensi haha.
 

nc208

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Yeah, that's a good point. But I still feel like a lot of euro breeders get too much hate. I'll always have a soft spot for Sensi haha.
Breeders shouldn't get hate because of their region. They deserve hate for having weak customer service, or unreliable genetics, or other reasons related to that particular company. The scene wouldn't be here today if it weren't for European breeders doing their work PERIOD.
 

xtsho

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Dinafem is fine. You have to remember that if you ask anything about a European breeder a bunch of people from here in the United States will start saying they're bad, the genetics suck, and immediately start schilling for some US breeder. Pay no attention. If Dinafem has something you want buy it. European breeders have decent genetics regardless of what anyone says. It's some of the chuckers that have popped up here in the United States in recent years that are pushing unstable crap genetics.
 

Swarmxking

Well-Known Member
Total bullshit

People get hung up on sellers as a brand. That's it. What you get from a packet of cannabis seeds will vary every single time. The less variation the better the breeder has worked that line. Truth is that's often not a lot.

If you believe that a hybrid of two cannabis plants "can't" possibly produce a certain quality of bud, just because of the name of the seedbank, then you'll believe anything.

I'll tell you this little secret, there's a strain from dinafem which turned into a well known cut over here in the UK which was from one of their lines. It was given a different name tho, something with "cookies" in it. And people lapped it up.

The fella that posted this above quote, has probably bought a few "quads" which he's been told are something completely different. Cannabis is all about fashionable names right now and, like anything else, we perceive quality before we even look for it. If some clothes don't have a certain brand name on them some people won't buy them. They can be made in the same fuckin sweatshop and people will swear they're of a lower quality.

I say this out of experience. I grew Ethos, Dinafem, And Bodhi in one run. The dinafem was a freebie as well, Kush & Cheese. The thing was the keeper out of the lot.
Sorry buddy.
You don't find these in dinafems haha.
These are f1s too and some phenos lean towards the mom and some the dad.
And blah blah blah breeding for stability

Meanwhile dudes like thug pug chucking f1s that mostly look the same and are all way fuckin more fire than dinafem garbagio anyway.

I'll say it again. Find me one disp selling me quads and its dinafem genetics. Ill pay pal u 20

No expensive street packs or true quads are dinafem genetics

Homegrows and old dudes who like white widow ok

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DukeFluke

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Sorry buddy.
You don't find these in dinafems haha.
These are f1s too and some phenos lean towards the mom and some the dad.
And blah blah blah breeding for stability

Meanwhile dudes like thug pug chucking f1s that mostly look the same and are all way fuckin more fire than dinafem garbagio anyway.

I'll say it again. Find me one disp selling me quads and its dinafem genetics. Ill pay pal u 20

No expensive street packs or true quads are dinafem genetics

Homegrows and old dudes who like white widow ok

20 whole Dollars. So you're a money where your mouth is type of fella. Nice

What you're basically saying is, Dinafem have bred or mixed strains of cannabis which are incapable of producing plants as good as the one in your picture....

That's some impressive breeding project

Because it's nearly impossible to do

I've seen plants first hand at least as nice as that from Dinafem. It's no surprise really. What we have is cannabis, and when you cut past the commercial money maker tomato varieties, which historically have been bred to yield large and be generally resistant and noob friendy, you'll find some little gems anywhere. After that it's al about stability and the likelihood of finding a keeper.

From that perspective I'l be honest and say I can't vouch for Dinafem regarding the % of keepers you're likely to find. But I can also say that about a lot of other more "highy rated" "breeders" out there too
 

Gentlemencorpse

Well-Known Member
Sorry buddy.
You don't find these in dinafems haha.
These are f1s too and some phenos lean towards the mom and some the dad.
And blah blah blah breeding for stability

Meanwhile dudes like thug pug chucking f1s that mostly look the same and are all way fuckin more fire than dinafem garbagio anyway.

I'll say it again. Find me one disp selling me quads and its dinafem genetics. Ill pay pal u 20

No expensive street packs or true quads are dinafem genetics

Homegrows and old dudes who like white widow ok

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Sorry, I'm too old for this quads terminology apparently.

Too your other points, most dispensary weed I've smoked has been worse than the Critical+ 2.0 I just grew myself.

Also, Dinafems Moby Dick has been bred into hundreds of strains. Just cause it doesn't say it doesn't mean it isn't there. No dispensary is going to say Dinafem on their advertisement ... heck, I don't know any dispensary that lists the breeder.
 

Swarmxking

Well-Known Member
20 whole Dollars. So you're a money where your mouth is type of fella. Nice

What you're basically saying is, Dinafem have bred or mixed strains of cannabis which are incapable of producing plants as good as the one in your picture....

That's some impressive breeding project

Because it's nearly impossible to do

I've seen plants first hand at least as nice as that from Dinafem. It's no surprise really. What we have is cannabis, and when you cut past the commercial money maker tomato varieties, which historically have been bred to yield large and be generally resistant and noob friendy, you'll find some little gems anywhere. After that it's al about stability and the likelihood of finding a keeper.

From that perspective I'l be honest and say I can't vouch for Dinafem regarding the % of keepers you're likely to find. But I can also say that about a lot of other more "highy rated" "breeders" out there too
I'll grow 5 phenos of some chucked f1s and end up with way better smoke, bag appeal and overall value than 5 phenos of dinafem mids. Every time.

Games changed. These euro breeders taking advantage of NA smokers and growers can't even show us or mention where or how they got the mom or dad.

These are the guys that see popular strains like blueberry and try to make their own lol
 

Swarmxking

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Sorry, I'm too old for this quads terminology apparently.

Too your other points, most dispensary weed I've smoked has been worse than the Critical+ 2.0 I just grew myself.

Also, Dinafems Moby Dick has been bred into hundreds of strains. Just cause it doesn't say it doesn't mean it isn't there. No dispensary is going to say Dinafem on their advertisement ... heck, I don't know any dispensary that lists the breeder.
Well when you walk in a disp and see the sundae driver, ice cream cake, peanut butter breath

If you know your shit you know the breeders
 
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